Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[Surreptitious]

Transcend (0): Ellibereth, chesskid3, Ginngie [LYNCH!] <- this should be Ellibereth, momo, InactionDan

You're right, I'll fix that. I am not good with details. It's why I don't run games very often.

[Ellibereth]

GIVE ME DEM QT'S,

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Scum player terrible outside of Doggo. Poor effort and awful pushes from the go.

[chesskid3]

town heros

creature
bulb
chesskid/elli share bronze

[Surreptitious]

Spectate Thread
Mod PT

I'll release the Mafia PT if they don'e care if I share that.

[chesskid3]

town LVP:Cmm

scum lvp: eddie

[Surreptitious]

I would really appreciate some feedback on the setup to see what I can improve.

[Surreptitious]

I would say the Most Valuable Player who stayed in the game was Creature. His reads were very very good.

[Ellibereth]

Wait, no. It would lead out to a 1 conf town 1 town 1 scum LYLO. Dan could have won. If not for the forfeit, that is.

This basically would never happen because I become practical conftown after trans flips.

[chesskid3]

fk u alisae i wasnt hardcore pocketed bt anyone but dan and same value as elli

[chesskid3]

Wait, no. It would lead out to a 1 conf town 1 town 1 scum LYLO. Dan could have won. If not for the forfeit, that is.

This basically would never happen because I become practical conftown after trans flips.

5 clear 4 town is gg

[chesskid3]

4 uncof

[Ellibereth]

i think he's talking about the miracle scenario where somehow vonflare gets lynched first which wasn't going to happen

[chesskid3]

no agree

[Creature]

Yay this game ended so I can talk about it.

[Creature]

Can't see Mod PT.

[Creature]

Great comeback, I thought the bad InactionDan townreads would screw town.

Gotta credit Ellibereth for lynching Transcend when it seemed inevitable vonflare would be lynched before him.

[Surreptitious]

Great comeback, I thought the bad InactionDan townreads would screw town.

Gotta credit Ellibereth for lynching Transcend when it seemed inevitable vonflare would be lynched before him.

Creature,

I know you are a pretty bright guy, tho you don't really articulate yourself as such.

Do you have any thoughts about the setup itself?

[Creature]

i'm not sure this setup can be anything but horribly townsided but it was worth another shot

I remember at some point I thought it was horridly scumsided.

[Transcend]

release!

[Creature]

I guess what happened is that the setup was pretty swingy.

When all town PRs were killed each after other and scum easily avoided targeting the traitors, it easily made the game look very scumsided.

However, the traitors were easy to catch, lots of players were pretty easy to sort and thus town actually managed to get five scum lynches in a row. If there were two more mislynches, town could easily be screwed.

So I actually credit town for this victory.

[Ellibereth]

It's interesting to me that even though we lynched scum everyday save a decent d1 policy lynch - I think at various points in the game town actually felt behind. Creature even used "comeback" to describe the result. This may have been purely psychological though for the players still in the game as scum got the optimal NK's every night. And for spectators there's probably just an assumption that living players won't do 360 reevaluates so they just project a negative trajectory if remaining reads are bad?

On that note.
I give Bulba full credit for the Transcend lynch.
Both in terms of being right about it not being von and probably being Trans.
And for being my motivational martyr.

[Creature]

I guess I underestimated Bulba because of his group B reads.

[Creature]

Transcend was gonna be the hardest lynch specially for a town locked on scum!vonflare.

[Ellibereth]

Noone escapes the AlphaMeta 5000