Open 707 - JK9++ [Endgame]

[yessiree]

VC 1.25

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Creature (5) [L-2] -

JaydragonKing, Hawk, Impede, momo, Mathdino

Impede (3) -

Kop, havingfitz, Almost50

Almost50 (1) -

UnabombaH

UnabombaH (1) -

RedFlavor

Mathdino (1) -

Srceenplay

Not voting

- Creature, sheepsaysmeep

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-01-12 08:00:00)

[Creature]

Actually I was showing my reads, that's a good defense already.

[Mathdino]

Creature please link a towngame where you similarly lost inspiration and played like you did here.

Also you have no scumreads. You have almost all townreads and then a couple nullreads on the people that the rest of us already consider suspicious.

[momo]

I know that vca is shit but the huge delay on creature's lynch indicates scum...if he was town, scum would have pushed it through

[JaydragonKing]

"scum would have pushed it through" -- says the guy trying to push it through.

Did you not think that was the reason I put you in my potential shot list?

[Mathdino]

Jay, do you have different lists for whether Creature flips scum or town? Might be helpful to post them so we can create both hider scenarios.

@momo: I'm townreading everyone on the wagon. If he's scum I'd expect more bussing in this situation.

[JaydragonKing]

I picked the three I did now specifically for either scenario of him being scum or town.

[Creature]

if he was town, scum would have pushed it through

Doesn't make sense. It's like saying "if X is town he will be mislynched today".

[Mathdino]

@Jay: Cool. Don't specify further who you're going to shoot in either case.

Remember that momo could be scum getting towncred off of a scum lynch, OR could be scum pushing a mislynch.
Remember that RedFlavor's scummy regardless of Creature's flip.
Remember that fitz... well idk why you're shooting fitz but I'm sure it's independent of Creature.

I'm not encouraging you to shoot momo obviously or think momo is scum, just trying to WIFOM your shot.

I'd recommend not commenting on any of the 3 from now on (everyone else, fair game).

[Creature]

Creature please link a towngame where you similarly lost inspiration and played like you did here.

I have these moments in most of my town games, but here's a decent example: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=67186

[Almost50]

I feel Creature's readlist is more of a "consensus" of everyone else's reads. His reluctance to actually explicitly SR anyone could point to him being the SK + "would rather not claim" after I sated intent could be ANY scum wanting to buy some time with more flips to decide on a safer fake claim.

In short..

VOTE: Creature

You're officially @L-1. Claim NOW

P-edit: That's an 18 months old game!

[Creature]

That's an 18 months old game!

but it's the best example I remember.

[Almost50]

That's an 18 months old game!

but it's the best example I remember.

i.e. You haven't been like this in the past 18 months.. i.e. "in most of my town games" was a blatant lie.

[Mathdino]

Creature, please link posts from that game where you make it clear that you'd lost inspiration in that game.

As potentially the only player willing to go through pages of meta, I'm not seeing it initially.

And claim.

[momo]

That's an 18 months old game!

but it's the best example I remember.

Creature, I don't wanna tunnel...a50 has put you at L-1...please claim

even claim vt if you have to


@everyone else, if this lynch doesn't go through...thoughts on a red flavor lynch

[Mathdino]

RedFlavor lynch is my ideal counterwagon, followed by Screenplay (I feel bad because he's new but his slot is scummy and his reads are backasswards), followed by Kop (a higher info lynch because he's actually been here).

[Creature]

I feel Creature's readlist is more of a "consensus" of everyone else's reads.

The only consensus here is the townblock I proposed (which already has oppositors). I have townreads outside of that townblock I proposed, so no, it's not consensus.

His reluctance to actually explicitly SR anyone could point to him being the SK + "would rather not claim" after I sated intent could be ANY scum wanting to buy some time with more flips to decide on a safer fake claim.

I don't see a reason why I should claim now when I can still hold this info from scum.

[Creature]

VOTE: RedFlavor

[Mathdino]

I don't see a reason why I should claim now when I can still hold this info from scum.

Oh screw you. You're getting hammered when A50 is online. At least do us the favour of claiming so we have a little more time to reorganise hiders.

[JaydragonKing]

If your the vengeful and you kill me as your CC, I swear I'm gonna fucking rage.

[Creature]

Creature, please link posts from that game where you make it clear that you'd lost inspiration in that game.

Gonna make it easier:

[Creature]

Now hold on I remembered I need to do something.

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Creature

[JaydragonKing]

... okay, now I just want you to hang no matter what.

Screen, if your still online, think about hammering. Obviously don't do it immediately, but state it.

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Annnnnnd nevermind.

[Srceenplay]

I’m not hammering.