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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:24 am

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wtf are like half of your roles.
Also does this mean Aero is in the game-no wait that's stupid
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:25 am

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btw chika I see your answer to me and I'll get to you in like an hour I'm just not in the mood rn
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:47 am

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7:4 and balanced could mean that at least 2 of the 4 scum are lovers or something??

IDK there are lots of ways to make it balanced.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:56 am

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Aero says it was reviewed for balance. So I have to assume there are some things that will be game changing for town if used properly. In the meantime, I would like to not setup spec to the point that we hand everything to scum. Some light speccing is fine, but let's not out any roles. Thanks.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:26 pm

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In post 195, Kaede x Kokichi wrote:
In post 191, Bins wrote:like kxk why are you saying it’s smalltown...
In post 3, Aeronaut wrote:NOTE: Above are the ROLES of the players currently in the game, not the ALIGNMENTS of any players. Your role in the game will be what constitutes your story in the flavor, but
will not be indicative of the mechanics of the game itself
. Which brings me to another point--- this game will have heavy to moderate flavor in it. The flavor should not ever be taken as an indication of one's alignment / motivations / etc. It is purely for fun and for mystery. I definitely do suggest you try to follow along, though, because you'll get the best game experience that way! Just realize that the flavor is not indicative of who is scum and who isn't.
Because of this?
I shouldn't need to tell you why this is wrong.

But I will anyways. That post explicitly states that the roles themselves do not constitute mechanics. Ergo, they are a name of the roles' flavor, but not the actual role themselves. A veteran might be a vanilla townie, while the lawyer might be a vigilante or something.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:28 pm

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VoteCount 1.7

(expired on 2018-01-20 15:13:00) remain.

  • [L-7] Cytheflyguy -

    [L-7] Miu Iruma -

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    drealmerz7 -
    Dunkerdoodles
    [L-7] SnarkySnowman -

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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:27 pm

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7 + 4 = 11
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:49 pm

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In post 194, MariaR wrote:btw
I request I hammer any votes we do thank you.
Even your own?
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:50 pm

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VOTE: Diamond

Back on this. Executive decision.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:53 pm

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This same thinking
In post 206, Dunkerdoodles wrote:7 + 4 = 11
:thinking:
got me here
In post 182, Chickadee wrote:So town only has two power roles then

Am I doing math right?

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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:16 pm

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In post 209, Chickadee wrote:This same thinking
In post 206, Dunkerdoodles wrote:7 + 4 = 11
:thinking:
got me here
In post 182, Chickadee wrote:So town only has two power roles then

Am I doing math right?

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My first assumption to the whole "4+7=11" deal is not "The 2 missing are PRs" but rather the 2 missing are 3rd party.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:20 pm

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also an interesting thought. My brain went from townies to VT
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:54 pm

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Ah. I went from "townies" to "town-aligned", which would explain a lot of the confusion.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:36 pm

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Your thinking makes way more sense.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:15 pm

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In post 195, Kaede x Kokichi wrote:
In post 191, Bins wrote:like kxk why are you saying it’s smalltown...
In post 3, Aeronaut wrote:
NOTE:
Above are the ROLES of the players currently in the game, not the ALIGNMENTS of any players. Your role in the game will be what constitutes your story in the flavor, but will not be indicative of the mechanics of the game itself. Which brings me to another point--- this game will have heavy to moderate flavor in it. The flavor should not ever be taken as an indication of one's alignment / motivations / etc. It is purely for fun and for mystery. I definitely do suggest you try to follow along, though, because you'll get the best game experience that way! Just realize that the flavor is not indicative of who is scum and who isn't.
Because of this?
"Your role in the game will be what constitutes your story in the flavor,
but will not be indicative of the mechanics of the game itself
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I can tell you for sure I am not "Travel Agent" as my role.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:18 pm

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Oh, good. Someone also said this.


Didn't even realize the math didn't make sense, lol
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:32 pm

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Lol 2 tp confirmed?

GG on the math btw everyone :P
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:52 am

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Hey bins buddy why are you voting me still
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:12 am

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In post 43, Miu Iruma wrote:Townreading Hickapee and Arseistophanes

Scumreading KaediotxKobitchi
May I ask why? I had done nothing AI at that moment (unless my entry was in some way).
I have done nothing since as well, so I would like to know where you stand on this with that in mind!
In post 65, DiamondSentinel wrote:VOTE: sheep

Policy. I detest their playstyle.
Brutal! XD
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That was purely for fun. Binsy is great! :)
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In post 90, Miu Iruma wrote:Psyche
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In post 94, Chickadee wrote:
In post 88, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 87, Chickadee wrote:Can we talk about productive things? Like the fact that something of power is hidden, or that people have already been stating reads, or that Diamond is apparently ok with two policy lynches, or that Sheep has the most posts and claims not to have read a single thing?
Policy lynches are not strictly disallowed from being scum, and your assertion that they are is fishy.
Never said it was scummy or not. Just noteworthy and potentially interesting to visit.
Ohey, the first actual point of conversation worth mentioning in the first 4 pages!
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:19 am

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In post 116, DiamondSentinel wrote:
In post 115, Miu Iruma wrote:Life comes at you fast, huh Dumbomd Shitinel
Fuck off NM. You're one of the most cancerous mafia members on the entire site. The only people who enjoy playing with you are people who are cancerous as well.
Can we fucking not please?
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:27 am

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Hi Arist. I see you talkin about me a lot in there.

Considering that sheep does literally nothing in the way of playing and only joins games to shitpost, I can't read him at all. There's nothing there to read. So I propose policy lynching exclusively. (Or maybe mods just add him to fucking blacklists. His behavior disgusts me). So, I can't say anything about their play,
because there is none


Anyways, this is D1. I've never seen a D1 really worth its salt. Town lynches a scum on D1 and proceeds to lose every other lynch. Town screws up big-time and gives scum a free mislynch, but turns around and pulls a win out of the hat. In the first case, they use wagon analysis from D1 to justify a bunch of mislynches. In the second, they dismiss D1 as a shitshow. D1 is essentially just a big long RVS.

So to say that I'm bad play right now is a moot point. Everyone plays shittily D1.

PEdit: I'm done with that. I lashed out because I'm dealing with 2 of my least favorite players on the entire site. But I'm done with it. Ignoring them, yadda yadda.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:41 am

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In post 127, Kaede x Kokichi wrote:
In post 126, Miu Iruma wrote:It's easy to have reads when your role PM lists all the scum
Nah!
Agreed! I have extreme trouble making reads as scum!
In post 128, Kaede x Kokichi wrote:VOTE: sheep
This however is scum, i had just told my other head about it but Kokichi seems MIA, so I might as well take the handle of the hydra for now.
Also chicka is being even townier.
Also Miu ignored my question.
I think Sheep is towny actually. And Chicka is scummy.
Where are you getting these from?
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In post 55, Kaede x Kokichi wrote:
In post 43, Miu Iruma wrote:Townreading Hickapee and Arseistophanes
?
I kinda agree on chicka, but why is Art a townread?
His entrance was very natural
Disregard my first question from earlier :)
I'd still like an update on your reads though, and would like to know if the townlean remains and why.

Sheep, Do you actually townread my entrance and think it looks natural or are you fully sheeping Mui here?
In post 136, Kaede x Kokichi wrote:I remember people telling me that Art's usually lurky as scum, that was quite a long time ago tho, but him not being around isn't helping.
This is true, however I've become just a supreme lurk as all alignments. Sorry about that!
This is why I semi-retired. This game just sounded too good to skip!
In post 140, sheepsaysmeep wrote:ari didnt lurk in his most recent scumgame
mini normal 1969 i think
I was consistently proddodging and only posting enough to get by looking towny while engaging as little as possible.
I think you misread that game!

Ooooo Maria is town! <3
I am very glad about that! :)
In post 148, Kaede x Kokichi wrote:
In post 145, MariaR wrote:Why is someone not having reads scummy? Some people take time to get just because you get them in 2 seconds doesn't mean someone is scummy I don't see why scum sheep just says "oh I should read I don't have reads I need to read the thread" do you think that's his gameplan or?
You'd think the player with the highest post count would do less posting useless things and get reads instead.
I mean, they have the highest postcount
because
they are posting pointless things. You are looking at them all wrong!

Everything else is just math/setup talk.

Glad I didn't miss much! Got some solid reads from all of this :)

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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:42 am

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if this is actually 4:9 we balanced but if it’s 4:7:2??? wha
no policy lynching
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:45 am

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In post 220, DiamondSentinel wrote:Hi Arist. I see you talkin about me a lot in there.

Considering that sheep does literally nothing in the way of playing and only joins games to shitpost, I can't read him at all. There's nothing there to read. So I propose policy lynching exclusively. (Or maybe mods just add him to fucking blacklists. His behavior disgusts me). So, I can't say anything about their play,
because there is none


Anyways, this is D1. I've never seen a D1 really worth its salt. Town lynches a scum on D1 and proceeds to lose every other lynch. Town screws up big-time and gives scum a free mislynch, but turns around and pulls a win out of the hat. In the first case, they use wagon analysis from D1 to justify a bunch of mislynches. In the second, they dismiss D1 as a shitshow. D1 is essentially just a big long RVS.

So to say that I'm bad play right now is a moot point. Everyone plays shittily D1.

PEdit: I'm done with that. I lashed out because I'm dealing with 2 of my least favorite players on the entire site. But I'm done with it. Ignoring them, yadda yadda.
lad to hear it on the P.edit, and sorry you feel frustrated!

I do agree with the second part of this post. D1 does not set the stage for the game!
But if you PL you get limited usage out of wagon analysis no matter if town or scum was lynched by it!D1 may be a long RVS in most games, but it also sets up a lot of info and interaction for the rest of the game! That's why it matters!
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:46 am

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In post 217, Dunnstral wrote:Hey bins buddy why are you voting me still
hey dunn buddy wanna do something
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