Mini 1975: A Village in the Woods (Game Over!)

[Bins]

it’s 50/50

depends if i’m phone posting or laptop posting

[Bins]

boring doesn’t = wrong

i don’t really have a problem with GP yet

[Socrates]

Votecount 2.4

PMysterious (2): Hopkirk, Raya36,
Raya36 (2): Bins, mutantdevle,
Ibuki Meowda (2): Ghostly Penguin, Dunkerdoodles,
Ghostly Penguin (1): Ibuki Meowda,

Not Voting (4): cytheflyguy, PMysterious, drealmerz7,

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 2: (expired on 2018-01-18 02:25:00)

I've been pretty lenient on prodding due to the time of year and my own issues. I'd rather this not have to change, but it's looking like it might.

If PM doesn't post within the hour, I'll start looking for a replacement.

This will also be dreal's second prod today, and he's been prodded before. One more and he will be replaced.

Raya is on temporary V/LA

[Socrates]

I'm also going to start noting people who are nearing getting prodded so I can keep better track of chronic "prodgers".

Cytheflyguy has 8 hours before being prodded

[Hopkirk]

@Soc: Votecount for end of D1 still needs to be fixed.
I don't want to lynch anyone who was on it today, but I don't remember exactly who was on it.
Raya could be 3p, but she doesn't seem like mafia, so I wouldn't want to lynch her today.

Ghostly/Pmys are my current suspicions.
Wary about the Dreal/Bins situation, though I wouldn't lynch either of them today since it's more due to confusion than explicit dislike. Want to see what happens with Dreal's inspect tonight, and townread Bins.

[Socrates]

@Soc: Votecount for end of D1 still needs to be fixed.

Thank you for the reminder.

[Socrates]

Fern replaces PMysterious effective immediately.

[Fern]

Sup Losers.

[Fern]

Could some loser summarize things for the top dog aruond here?
Not like I need help anyways.
Then I'll let ywall know who's the top dog around here.

[Fern]

Since no one is here, the top dog is gonna show you how real scumhunting is done.
The first thing is you go through Mozaloser's ISO backwards. Here's one thing a P R O F E S S I O N A L has deducted.

@Drealz - you have posted more in the cosy world of twilight than in the rest of the game.
scummy.

oh, shut up you dont know everything, everyone has gaps

that was @Drealz

you have done literally nothing all game

that's your contribution?
I'm fucking disappointed. that's all i'm gonna say.

drealoser7 is town, and I like to side with the losers.
These interactions feel very not bussy and makes me think that mozaloser was using dreal like a punching bag.

[drealmerz7]

thought I'd be back in action today after some days of personal stress...

but today something was wrong with my cat and I just spent all day with her and at the vet and I haven't eaten in 24 hrs so,

thanks for your patience ?

[Fern]

Alright, the top dog finished his professional iso analysis of mozaloser.

think bins would have hammered quicker if they were scum

This is a really shitty townread on the trashbins, but I think its probably on town.

On my wagon, mutant and dunker are prob town. Maybe ibuki, not sure. Sill think Rayas scum
makes me think Ibuki is town, since more than one scum unlikely on my wagon?

I'd rather Raya,but obv that's not gonna happen.
Not sure why Rampage wagon fell apart, but we gotta have a lynch.

VOTE: PM

I feel like Rayaloser is probably scum, considering its not really a lynch he's pushing through, he's just letting it sit. Not to mention posts like these:

This game, there is again no real consistent actions I can point to and say makes him town but I am just getting townie vibes from him.

this is so vague "yeah he's town cos i say so" - not good enough.

Town:
Raya36 ^1
Joey_ ^1

how on earth are you town reading raya?

i guess. i just hate the idea of scum "lolzing" their way thru it.

we need to agree on alynch. I could do raya, but i fail tosee why people arent all over Drealz. He has literally doen nothing town all game.

Make me feel like Mozaloser was distancing from a wolf.

How are we to trust you are scum hunting when you don't actually call anyone scum? - Ghost.

i'm voting Ibuki, and happy to lynch any of those in my "pos. scum" list. Dont see how i could be much clearer than that on Day 1.

I don't think he ever really talks about why Ibuki was a wolf, but it pings my interest.

not lynhcing hopkirk today

Its a key thing to note that mozaloser didn't mention hoploser at any point after this post. Scum like to avoid talking about each other so this is probably a wolf.

I'm especially interested in your read on hopkirk in particular since you are now voting for him.

i'd be surprised if hopkirk was scum, the guy is so active.

Plus the way he talks about hoploser here makes me think it could be a wolf.

[Fern]

TrashBins and drealoser7 are the top dogs around here.
VOTE: Raya
This is probably a wolf.

hoploser and Ibuki Loser will be looked at.

[Bins]

how many times will i be called trash

[Fern]

Till I find a better nickname.
It was supposed to um
imply a trash can
you know what I mean
ok maybe not

[Fern]

((I don't actually think you're anything of the sort btw))

[Fern]

also the bolded is what gp is doing , i was sort of opposed to you just letting that pass

you seem to find a lot of things i find suspicious as just okay and you go for boring lynches like pmys or raya
does anyone have some yarn i can play with

brb looking at the D1 EoD VC

[Fern]

suggesting a bus there when abr was getting wagoned for literally no reason is really disingenuous

wait wtf if raya was sitting on moz since before eod then there's no way she's scum lol

Ibuki Loser
this is wrong you wanna know why?
Its because scum if they are going to bus, aren't going to fall for that.
They'll keep on bussing and stay consistent.
Town is way likely to hop off a bus then scum is.
So the statement you're saying here is just wrong.

Its also wrong, because scum LIKE bussing for ~reasons~
In fact, I find that bussers are at the start of the wagon.

[Bins]

tbh i’m awful at bussin cause i always bus when i don’t have to and don’t bus when i should so like i never put too much weight into it
but also idk

you aren’t allowed to come here and warm me up to the PM slot zzz

[Fern]

No see
I'm the top dog around here
and am probably better at this game then the whole playerlist.
But its okay, I'm siding with you, since I side with the winners.
Wanna tell me why Ghostly Loser is a wolf besides suggesting bussing?

[Fern]

Something about Raya's list seems...safe. I realize I have a very similar list but if she's posted once; Raya, talk about some of your reads if you could, please.

(Most of my town reads are mainly tone and gut)

Town:
Ghostly Penguin - This one is more of a gut and tone read. 69, 79, 89 are the posts I specifically got the read from but the tone felt consistent throughout their iso.
Joey - I still like post 35's thought process. I get where some people are coming from when they say it sounds like busy work but it came across to me a lot more like a townie trying to find scum even with a limited amount of information. Besides, he stated that it wasn't relevent and the only reason he posted it was because he was asked to. I also like the post where he asks people to answer his questions from before. I feel like scum would probably be less invested in the responces to the questions and more invested in just looking busy in general.
Hopkirk - Hopkirk is similar to joey plus I liked how he was responding to the pressure from dreal. The rest is a tone/gut read. I like his 113 too.
Mutantdevle - I like how he just skipped by the rule 11 discussion. It was interesting for the first few people but when it kept on getting talked about it was starting to just get in the way of actual scumhunting. The rest of the read is tone and gut.


Scum:
Mozamis - 53 the "ps you scum?" came across as forced. It sounded like a buddying attempt but he decided to tack that onto the bottom to make it sound less like that. Same goes for 54 after that. 55 was a stretch considering he had been asked to share his thought process and it was completely different and sounded pretty well thought over. 85 is a poor explanation and can be countered by what I just said. 97 seems sheepy. Someone already said my posts were hollow and scummy, someone after them described them as hollow then when he is prompted about one he said vague and wishy washy...
Bins - I know she has exams but she really hasn't posted anything about anything AI this game besided her last post which just says 'I could go for either Raya or Ibuki', 'I don't know what to look for', and the fourth person to say something along the lines of my posts being hollow. This scumread is probably more of a 'I want you to post more because your posts are bad' pressure scumread.

Mutant is the only reasonable one here.

You're all sheeping onto my wagon because my posts are hollow, I'm scummy, and one of my posts was wishy washy.

Forgot to move mt vote here
VOTE: moz

Hey Ibuki Loser.
You're giving this towncred?
For like, no reason?
Like they didn't move their vote at all after this.
And the actual explanation for the read is just them trying to justify why its a vote on scum.
Like, there's no actual analysis in there.
It's just "oh, they did this."
And wolfs are likely to do this because they want to make their votes look good where as town will want to attempt to be correct.
In their analysis of Mozaloser here, there is no attempt to wanting to be right. What there is is a lot of "They did this." No real analysis. Just an attempt to justify their vote.

[Fern]

In fact, the top dog is about to show you why those are bad posts.
132 is bad mostly because they're making them sound like they're overexaggerating and the over exaggeration there is so bad that it looks scummy.
Let's break down the reads in 116
GhostlyLoser - It is really easy to say someone is X for tone and not explaining why the toneread exist. Because tone is bullshit. Scum and town are going to have a consistent tone. It's a fucking worthless of a read. Saying gut is fine though.
The read on JoeyLoser sounds pretty good actually.
Hoploser - The read here even SOUNDS like a read on a buddy. They go into no explanation on the how, and at the end of the day that's the most important thing to explain when making a read. and 113 is a trash post that anyone can make on the fucking fly.
Mutantloser is also a good read.
Bin-a-loser - Saying they did nothing AI so they're scum is like what? Like nothing being said in there warrants a scumread, that should be a null read, ESPECIALLY since their main concern is Bin-A-Loser's playstyle, and playstyle will never make someone scum.

[Fern]

Like the only real reads that actually look like they're putting thought into the game are the reads on JoeyLoser and Mutantloser.

[Ibuki Meowda]

suggesting a bus there when abr was getting wagoned for literally no reason is really disingenuous

wait wtf if raya was sitting on moz since before eod then there's no way she's scum lol

Ibuki Loser
this is wrong you wanna know why?
Its because scum if they are going to bus, aren't going to fall for that.
They'll keep on bussing and stay consistent.
Town is way likely to hop off a bus then scum is.
So the statement you're saying here is just wrong.

Its also wrong, because scum LIKE bussing for ~reasons~
In fact, I find that bussers are at the start of the wagon.

don't have to jump through all these hoops to set up a raya lynch lol she's not even doing that much
that ws a page 6 votepark until eod
sure scum could have made that vote but it's likelier that it didn't happen



no one cares if you're better than the whole pl lol, ms isnt a beacon of shining town play

[Fern]

My point is that you are making 0 attempt to analyze the context because thats what matters.