Anything uPick? (Endgame)

[ObsessedFanGrill]

Hey Gamma why is it taking you so long to reply to a simple question that would be extremely easy for you to answer as town.

[Firebringer]

Dino try hardness is funny when you combine it with bad read on gamma

[northsidegal]

i doubt that ginngie's post restriction was faked but

it seems slightly convenient that it got lifted so early.

ur actually a wolf this time feelsbadman

do you disagree? at that point in the game a good portion of the playerlist was still yet to have much of an impact on the thread, if at all. mastina specifically making the note of scum being in the inactives and then choosing ginngie along with ginngie's pr being lifted upon being voted seems oddly specific to me.

OFG have you ever played with NSG before?

@NSG

: mastina and Ginngie are pretty good friends, I think. Seems natural. The massive number of townreads is concerning but also happened the last time I played with her IIRC (admittedly years ago. Do you think scum lovederizer rolecop would ever be a thing?

there's nothing to suggest mastina is telling the truth about anything, yet.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I thought it was a joke. And now I see you're asking me to quote my role PM which is not cool friendo

[Mathdino]

Dino try hardness is funny when you combine it with bad read on gamma

Convince me the read is wrong. From my perspective I have scum motivation, meta, his shit votes/reads, and gut/tonereads on my side.

[Ginngie]

Fire luff me

[Firebringer]

Ohh no north side could be scum ;(
My heart is broken

[ObsessedFanGrill]

it's not quoting your role pm I'm not asking it word for word paraprhase it friend.

[ObsessedFanGrill]

Its a very simple question because if you're town it tells you something that can be somewhat important.

[Gamma Emerald]

I win when the scum are dead and a townie is alive, k so?

[Firebringer]

Fire luff me

i Can’t find the Manuel on luffing

[ObsessedFanGrill]

Now Gamma is the game singleball or do you think an SK could exist in the game?

[northsidegal]

i'd say my play so far has been entirely consistent with my scumgame. i would expect anyone familiar with my meta to scumread me so far, actually. what're you basing your comparison on?

The scumgame you linked me in sitechat the other day. You're nowhere near as awkward.

Initial "?" posts made me think "Ok NSG is aware her scumgame is awkward and is trying to avoid that". But there were a couple posts you made that actually made me somewhat rethink things and be like "huh, wow, weirdly good thinking" and that's what I expect from town-NSG more than anything.

Lemme know if you want quotes.

well, at the time my only non-？ posts in the game were these:

Spoiler:

Northsidegal have I played with you before?

i don't think so.

Nice try, but RC doesn't do double roles. I played enough of his games to know.

alright – why counterclaim so early anyways, or at all for that matter if you could just shoot him?

in case you don't get that I'm calling rolefishing 150% on that post

is early game rolefishing something scum actually do? it's an accusation i see a lot but never something that actually seems to be correct.

which, if anything, look a lot more like these first two posts, from my scumgame:

Spoiler:

1) First of all, how dare you, 2) I have to agree that your random vote post really comes across as being the kind of goofy-friendly that you can really only arrive at by calculated intent, and 3) from a bin of at least one player, it is possible to choose exactly one player to vote for from each bin and nobody can prove otherwise and I am obviously not going to miss a chance to exercise the axiom of choice on Gödel.

Don't these words look very opportunistic?

Its very "I'm gonna join the wagon because I really have no idea why". This really goes on the radar

do you think zitto is scum trying to get a quicklynch on godel? hopping on rvs wagons is usually a towntell to me.

Well, if someone claims BP that'd make them conftown

Wait a minute... when did this power role speculation start and why is this happening? Ya'll need to stop

zitto, this is exactly why i voted you. it seemed at that point that we weren't doing the bulletproof strategy and scarlet's thought process was clear enough that your question seemed like rolefishing.

what are everyone's thoughts on doing the bulletproof strategy, for those who know what it is?

How could I miss this I wanna vote this honestly

why?

than they do this:

Spoiler:

alright, here we are.
VOTE: fungrus

quick thoughts so far:
jamie's intro obviously shows that he's excited to play the game but i wouldn't be so quick to write him off as town. jamie's not a total newbie so a post like 45 comes off to me as slightly lamist. furthermore, i think he had a really awkward reaction to acid's entrance. such a serious reaction to what seemed to me to clearly be a nonserious entrance comes off as an overly self conscious player. in this case i don't read that as a personality trait, i read it as an alignment trait. overall a slight scumlean.

my second scumlean is fungrus. this one is a combination of a little bit of gut and really weak justification in 40. there's just something about 22 that pings me - maybe it's the attempt to integrate into rvs in a "friendly" or "jokey" manner, but again i think it's more likely to come from self-conscious town than from scum. as for 40, i'm a little annoyed - katyusha had already pointed out what i wanted to say, so not only do i not add anything by saying it but it makes me look like i'm just sheeping someone else's read.

speaking of katyusha, that's quite the explosive opening. i don't think i'd agree with claiming but it's already happened so there's not a lot of point discussing it. i had a feeling you were an alt before you mentioned it - you can kind of tell by the walls. excited to be playing with someone who really seems like they want to win, regardless of alignment!


by the way, it didn't actually take me this long since my last post to read the thread. i just got sidetracked.

er, yeah, i know about the bulletproof strat - i've gotten town to implement it myself in one game. what i'm saying is that in this situation it probably would've just been more beneficial to wait unti later - from what we've seen already you're quite the active town voice, so scum might have wanted to take a shot at you anyways. depriving them of the confirmation that you're bulletproof would've been valuable. they would've had less of an ability to plan out their actions. furthermore, if we consider the possibility of a dysfunctional town, scum might feel comfortable enough to kill you over the first two nights if they're trying to play the long game. doing so both deprives town of nightkill information for two days and allows scum to remove the conftown from a lylo/mylo situation, massively increasing their chances.

finally, given that you already seem like quite the town personality, it was already likely that people (including scum) would sheep you or tailor their reads to align with yours in order to subtly appear more town. now that you're confirmed town it's even more likely - in fact, typically it's recommended that conftowns hold back on giving their reads until everyone else has and generally just play more passively in order to avoid the previous point, but that would seem like a massive waste given your obvious desire to win / scumhunt.

so i guess i'd like to hear your thoughts on why you associated them more with the second than with the first.

[ObsessedFanGrill]

Gamma where arrrrrrrrre youuuuuuuuuu
I know you're here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Now Gamma is the game singleball or do you think an SK could exist in the game?

Probably singleball based on past UPicks, maybe there's an SK, I'd expect SK more than multiball.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma where arrrrrrrrre youuuuuuuuuu
I know you're here.

Keep getting ninja'd

[ObsessedFanGrill]

WRONG.
The game is confirmed singleball by wincons

[Firebringer]

Dino try hardness is funny when you combine it with bad read on gamma

Convince me the read is wrong. From my perspective I have scum motivation, meta, his shit votes/reads, and gut/tonereads on my side.

Where is scum motivation because you didn’t mention that once in your vote on gamma.
Give me meta game you have because this is basically town gamma
His shit votes and reads are again Town gamma

[Gamma Emerald]

WRONG.
The game is confirmed singleball by wincons

I see, I didn't note that particular phrasing, I was guessing based on past RC UPicks

[Smocaine]

ofg your read on the cynicalboy?

[Torn Up]

read up to page 4: fire, mastina and yume town. I'll read up eventually

also lolgamma

[ObsessedFanGrill]

You shouldn't NEED to guess based on past uPicks when your role pm tells you all of the information you need to know.

[ObsessedFanGrill]

ofg your read on the cynicalboy?

They're Annoying
but I mean
I guess I would expect them to be more frozen and less engaged if they were scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

You shouldn't NEED to guess based on past uPicks when your role pm tells you all of the information you need to know.

I didn't really care about wincon except to see that I was town, I was more interested in my role

[northsidegal]

You shouldn't NEED to guess based on past uPicks when your role pm tells you all of the information you need to know.

I didn't really care about wincon except to see that I was town, I was more interested in my role

but didn't you just go look back at it?