Anything uPick? (Endgame)

[Smocaine]

VOTE: nsg

[Nosferatu]

Scum NSG tries to nullify towntells.

thats a good one ngl
VOTE: nsg

[northsidegal]

How is that different?
You telling us to be skeptical is to put in our minds that there’s chance none of it’s true which would be a lie.

And I see no reason to tell people to be skeptical about claims like that unless you either A) pretty sure it’s horseshit or B) scum trying to keep options open

oh, please. mafia is a game of skepticism – not believing everything that people tell you. i saw something that, if valid, would suggest that mastina was scum. how is suggesting that someone else is lying scummy in the first place?

[northsidegal]

has anyone voting me actually seen a game before where i'm scum?

[Mathdino]

Scum NSG tries to nullify towntells.

I also see what you did there.

1. She's clearly aware of her meta at this point. I also find the town-NSG-tell evidence to outweigh the scum-NSG-tell evidence.

2. Setup spec and roleclaims are NOT towntells. Saying "there's no reason to believe mastina is telling the truth" (or saying that about anyone really) isn't arguing down a townread, it's a direct response to my question.

Scum-NSG breaks down people saying "this looks like town" with the classic "hey dude scum can do that too".

Thus far she's only done that to herself. That's actually a pretty weird behaviour that I'll look into when I get the chance.

[Firebringer]

How is that different?
You telling us to be skeptical is to put in our minds that there’s chance none of it’s true which would be a lie.

And I see no reason to tell people to be skeptical about claims like that unless you either A) pretty sure it’s horseshit or B) scum trying to keep options open

oh, please. mafia is a game of skepticism – not believing everything that people tell you. i saw something that, if valid, would suggest that mastina was scum. how is suggesting that someone else is lying scummy in the first place?

When I am scum I tell people all the time they shouldn’t townread me for bad meta reasons and it often just gets them to townread me harder

[Nosferatu]

i just wanna see where this goes tbh

Scum NSG tries to nullify towntells.

I also see what you did there.

1. She's clearly aware of her meta at this point. I also find the town-NSG-tell evidence to outweigh the scum-NSG-tell evidence.

2. Setup spec and roleclaims are NOT towntells. Saying "there's no reason to believe mastina is telling the truth" (or saying that about anyone really) isn't arguing down a townread, it's a direct response to my question.

Scum-NSG breaks down people saying "this looks like town" with the classic "hey dude scum can do that too".

Thus far she's only done that to herself. That's actually a pretty weird behaviour that I'll look into when I get the chance.

Would self-aware town!nsg impersonate scum!nsg?

[Firebringer]

I didn’t mean to quote that, was directed at dino

[northsidegal]

stop metaing me off of one game. i have three completed scumgames on site, one of which is shut up and vote.

[northsidegal]

like i recognize that i'm awkward in posting as scum but starting to come up with things that i specifically do as scum is guaranteed to lead you to false conclusions.

[Mathdino]

@Firebringer: You may do that as scum but you're not NSG. I see that primarily from town (and do it more often as town personally).

@Nosferatu: That's a really good question. I don't know, depends on a few factors. There are a few more things/atmosphere about her play that I'm waiting to see before I lock a solid non-early-read.

[ObsessedFanGrill]

First Major Wagon of the game is more chances then not, on town.
so NSG is town

Ginngie's vote looks bad tho.

[Firebringer]

1. She's clearly aware of her meta at this point. I also find the town-NSG-tell evidence to outweigh the scum-NSG-tell evidence.

2. Setup spec and roleclaims are NOT towntells. Saying "there's no reason to believe mastina is telling the truth" (or saying that about anyone really) isn't arguing down a townread, it's a direct response to my question.

Scum-NSG breaks down people saying "this looks like town" with the classic "hey dude scum can do that too".

If 1 is true we can’t argue it either way can we? Because self aware means she can manipulate it either way that T

And yeah I would say 2 is arguing down towntells when the role is Mason

[Firebringer]

First Major Wagon of the game is more chances then not, on town.
so NSG is town

Ginngie's vote looks bad tho.

You were first major wagon dumbo

[Mathdino]

And yeah I would say 2 is arguing down towntells when the role is Mason

It's literally a half meme on this site that mastina claims mason as neighbour.

[Firebringer]

I am sorry I didn’t know you were professor of mastina meta

[northsidegal]

And yeah I would say 2 is arguing down towntells when the role is Mason

it's not "arguing down towntells" to suggest that the possibility exists that someone could be lying. like i said, this game is literally

entirely about

figuring out who's lying to you. what are you scumreading me for?

[Toranaga]

Holy shit the scumblock is real guys

gamma what were you referencing in this post?

[Firebringer]

And yeah I would say 2 is arguing down towntells when the role is Mason

it's not "arguing down towntells" to suggest that the possibility exists that someone could be lying. like i said, this game is literally

entirely about

figuring out who's lying to you. what are you scumreading me for?

It is when there’s no Town motivation to suggest it

[northsidegal]

And yeah I would say 2 is arguing down towntells when the role is Mason

it's not "arguing down towntells" to suggest that the possibility exists that someone could be lying. like i said, this game is literally

entirely about

figuring out who's lying to you. what are you scumreading me for?

It is when there’s no Town motivation to suggest it

the reason i suggested it in the first place was because i saw something that, if true, would suggest mastina is scum. that's it. that's where this conversation started. is scumhunting not town motivated?

[northsidegal]

like it feels like you're contriving reasons at this point to be scumreading me.

[Toranaga]

VOTE: WhemePlay
That mason vig suggestion was a scummy af move

This is a scumclaim T B Q H

[Toranaga]

mostly liquour

[Firebringer]

like it feels like you're contriving reasons at this point to be scumreading me.

Ur favorite word is “contrive” isn’t it?

[northsidegal]

right then, if you're done with that conversation then i am too.