Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
Wisdom any way you would believe I'm town without seeing me flip first?
Actually it doesn't matter if you end up with khan at LYLO.. we need to convince Khan you're town instead.
Okay so 1) we need to know for sure that the only way for anyone to die is through lynch. I don't know how we can do this. It appears we just have to assume they don't given that we killed the day 2 sniper.
2) if one of me/wisdom dies we need to make sure Khan will not vote for the other at all.
That's why I can't risk it. Either I'm right or I'm wrong. If I'm right but they don't listen to me we lose quickly. If I'm wrong they kill you and town wins. But right now I'm 95% sure you're town. And 75% sure nsg is scum not gara.
Wisdom has become more interested in the game but not more interested in staying alive.
However that did not translate into being more analytical or arguing more or trying to accuse/defend people.
Yes he could be scum and faking. Yes he could be scum and not faking. But if he is scum I would expect more attempts at manipulating town. Also I don't think the weird interaction with UCV's hammer reaction test is a scum one.
Plus I still haven't changed my mind about what I originally said in day 1 that one scum would probably be among those against massclaim and one for massclaim. AFM was against, so I'm hesitant to think either wisdom/gara is the 2nd scum. I'm obviously treating this part of my reasoning with a grain of salt but I won't lie it factors in a little.
nsg fits my idea of perfect scum. Appear town, use townie logic to build cases against those who make weak arguments, stay active but not too active, ask provocative questions that make people feel more confident of themselves. Basically he played me well and I don't even feel like I was played. I was totally behind the UCV lynch, the fact that he flipped town is just an unfortunate result.
That being said I'd love to be wrong, because it would mean I was right. I've wanted to lynch wisdom forever him and rat were my first scumreads. That just doesn't matter anymore because we need to analyze the facts in front of us.
In post 179, northsidegal wrote:i've kind of been assuming that this was a nightless game where scum were completely vanilla and thus had no power to nightkill, but the fact that there are obvious power roles already probably means that this isn't true. i think it's probably not worth it forcing everyone to massclaim right now. here's where i'm at on reads:
beeboy / alisae's french maid — a bit of a lack of posting recently. when i started typing this i was going to put him at a townlean for being quick to call rat town in 42 and 64, but that's a pretty weak reason. overall, null.
^This last one here is interesting because nsg changes her mind about the massclaim. Uses a pretty obvious conclusion that everyone should have figured out at that stage to justify changing her mind.
hmm so NM has confirmed that scum have fakeclaims in the game notes. I don't know if that necessary means that nsg wouldn't change her mind about the massclaims if she were scum, but maybe my last point is not as strong as I thought. Or maybe it's stronger. What do you guys think? Does that make a difference?
In post 591, BuJaber wrote:Wisdom has become more interested in the game but not more interested in staying alive.
However that did not translate into being more analytical or arguing more or trying to accuse/defend people.
Yes he could be scum and faking. Yes he could be scum and not faking. But if he is scum I would expect more attempts at manipulating town. Also I don't think the weird interaction with UCV's hammer reaction test is a scum one.
Plus I still haven't changed my mind about what I originally said in day 1 that one scum would probably be among those against massclaim and one for massclaim. AFM was against, so I'm hesitant to think either wisdom/gara is the 2nd scum. I'm obviously treating this part of my reasoning with a grain of salt but I won't lie it factors in a little.
nsg fits my idea of perfect scum. Appear town, use townie logic to build cases against those who make weak arguments, stay active but not too active, ask provocative questions that make people feel more confident of themselves. Basically he played me well and I don't even feel like I was played. I was totally behind the UCV lynch, the fact that he flipped town is just an unfortunate result.
That being said I'd love to be wrong, because it would mean I was right. I've wanted to lynch wisdom forever him and rat were my first scumreads. That just doesn't matter anymore because we need to analyze the facts in front of us.
Excellent. This is an analysis from a town's perspective. It's naive and wrong in places, but the mentality matches your experience perfectly.
Wisdom is still strongly manipulating the town. He is capable of a lot more activity, but instead he's peppering the game with "Zzz" and "let's keep lynching, it's auto-win" and putting up lynch preferences. If he stops and debates me, then he draws attention to himself. So he's not. Being overly concerned with staying alive looks scummy so he's not doing that.
In post 594, BuJaber wrote:hmm so NM has confirmed that scum have fakeclaims in the game notes. I don't know if that necessary means that nsg wouldn't change her mind about the massclaims if she were scum, but maybe my last point is not as strong as I thought. Or maybe it's stronger. What do you guys think? Does that make a difference?
This again?
I've already addressed this. Scum do not have fakeclaims. They have unused characters they can use for fakeclaims. For example: They know that nobody has _CHARACTER X_, so they can safely claim _CHARACTER X_ in their fakeclaim. That's all that means. It's a measure to stop the town from breaking the game via a flavorclaim.