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Post #10 (isolation #1) » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:16 pm
Postby Mathdino »
Okay so
Jay roleplays (a bit extravagantly) alongside playing like a survivor, which he now knows gets him lynched. He's a weirdo in general. Lynchbait. Not a hydra though.
Not_Mafia is a troll. tbh I wouldn't have signed up for this if it were a normal game with NM. If it were a normal game I'd go for the policy jugular but there's a 1/9 chance of instaloss so *sigh*
Assemble is gonna lurk. sheep is gonna spam. What a duo.
That's all I know.
Edit: OH JESUS FUCK
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #48 (isolation #6) » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:30 pm
Postby Mathdino »
In post 45, Something_Smart wrote:Also, I'm not sharing jester reads except that I will only advocate lynching someone I have a confident not-jester read on.
I've been thinking about this too tbh.
I don't think both mafia would claim jester because they'd just be outed by LyLo.
So there's gotta be mafia in the non-trolls.
This kinda means that we have to lynch the people that actually seem like they're trying.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #52 (isolation #8) » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:32 pm
Postby Mathdino »
In post 46, JaydragonKing wrote:I hereby elect to hang NotMaf, not on the account of his trolling nature, but on the fact he uses MafSilver as his preferred background.
everyone who made their accounts before like 2014 are defaulted to mafsilver
i switched to mafsepia tbh
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
In post 72, Mathdino wrote:Opening post doesn't read jester. That's my primary criterion.
Okay so you're not scumhunting, cool got it. Ethos and Mathdino, you're welcome town, lynch me out of gratitude?
I'm more concerned with weeding out the non-jesterclaims than the jesterclaims and possible jesters. The risk of game-ending is too high. Pretty sure I can solve by LyLo after jester death anyway.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #113 (isolation #20) » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:23 pm
Postby Mathdino »
Reads listing is weird because in a way there's 3 prongs, and I can't exactly graph people on a triangle. Will go in order.
Ari: Very obviously not jester I think. Playing in exactly a way that won't get him lynched. Former scumread here is kinda dying. I really just need content. Null between town/scum.
Assembaa: Glad this page's conversation happened. Upon review, Heartless's argument does make more sense. Would be weird for jester to say "I'm jester, and also townies totally claim jester!" If anything, they would rather people think other players are jesters so they can get lynched. Town or scum, leaning scum.
ethos: Getting town vibes here. I'm really doubting that the best strategy for jester to not get himself lynched is to hardclaim jester and joke scumslip.
Heartless: I'm torn. I love their arguments but it's hard for me to townread them outright. I actually kind of have a gut suspicion they're jester and are setting themselves to be in my/SS's pool of "people who read as non-jester". Need more content. Also the Jay read is shit.
Jay: This is pretty clearly town. Jay could EASILY get himself lynched as jester.
Not_Mafia: nope
SomethingSmart: Okay so this one is definitely not jester either. The defence of Assembaa is weird and doesn't totally make sense.
VOTE: Assembaa
Willing to see where this goes. I can maaaaybe sort sheep.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #138 (isolation #23) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:07 am
Postby Mathdino »
In post 131, Not Known 15 wrote:So... the strategy is...
1. Day 1- Day 3: Lynch the most obvious townies.
2. Day 4: Hope that the 3 most scummy townies kill a mafia at LYLO
3.Day 5/6:Lynch the last mafia.
Right?
I mean if we make this the strategy it incentivizes the jester to go all obvtown on everyone and add themselves to the lynchlist.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #168 (isolation #30) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:45 pm
Postby Mathdino »
In post 167, JaydragonKing wrote:And if he is, I honestly think we'll be better off without him.
And saying that, and if he flips scum, you just shot up my scum list, Smart.
All of my this.
If you guys are so sure he's not jester, then him out of the game is a net gain for us. Jester possibility is the only thing stopping me from lynching him off the face of the earth.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #193 (isolation #36) » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:33 pm
Postby Mathdino »
People being afraid of L-1 and hammers is a symptom of
1. Wanting claims (no claims in this setup)
2. Wanting last words (like N_M is really gonna do that)
I'm okay with speedlynches on players who won't give last words in mountainous style games tbh.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #249 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:56 am
Postby Mathdino »
So we're agreed SS and NK15 are not only highly unlikely to be jester, but also are unlikely to be mafia.
So are we down to which one to lynch? Because it sure sounds like this is heading in a "lynch one then the other, then see who the jester is if the game is still up" direction.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #253 (isolation #41) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:01 am
Postby Mathdino »
I honestly have no idea what the fuck to do. Like, it's nightless, so we can just lynch all my suspects in a row, but I also have no reason to and no clue how to argue why we should lynch one first over another.
Like, we all agree we should be lynching non-jesters first and we're likely to hit scum. Now what?
Where are the votes at?
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #266 (isolation #42) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:18 am
Postby Mathdino »
I'm good with SS's plan in terms of lynching NK15. Hopefully NK15 is right about SS being jester. Responding to a case on you with "yo the guy wanting you to lynch me is a fuckin jester" is really weird.
Plus this conversation is clearly one of those that's gonna be a distraction forever.
VOTE: NK15
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
And between you and me Dino? I'm literally up to hang anyone at this point. Don't tell the others.
Can't say I disagree. The lack of NKs makes this easy mode. Pretty sure you're town so with one mafia left, and since I'll probably locktown someone else eventually, I'm pretty sure we win as long as we lynch non jesters.
I'd volunteer for it but that would immediately make everyone think I'm jester, which would hurt the plan
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #286 (isolation #46) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:56 am
Postby Mathdino »
In post 285, JaydragonKing wrote:I also have a thought... If we say both me and Dino are town at this rate, we can hang literally everyone who's not Jester until there's just me and him left. Then we win!
Don't make me paranoid of you
Let's focus on hanging not jesters who seem like scum.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #301 (isolation #48) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:14 am
Postby Mathdino »
In post 251, Not Known 15 wrote:Hmmmmmmmmm... defending yourself against a jester accusation? I think we should lynch Something Smart on Day 4.
Lining up lynches after we already nailed 1 mafia. It's unlikely mafia is gonna act like jester.
In post 255, Something_Smart wrote:My current thoughts are to lynch me and NK in either order and then keep Jay and Math alive.
Makes me less comfortable about my scumread on him.
Naturally paranoia makes me think "oh shit what if he's saying exactly the thing that makes me think he's helpful town" but that can be dealt with later.
This weird repetition feels like LAMIST-y signalling. Can't defend yourself so you defend some other player. Also seemingly more fixated on who jester is than who scum is.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #319 (isolation #51) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:12 pm
Postby Mathdino »
NK15 made enough sense about SS for me to be extremely suspicious
arguing against a N_M policy lynch when N_M policy lynch is optimal strategy in every game is pretty jesterish
VOTE: Heartless
obv not jester, haven't gotten super townish vibes from them either
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy
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Post #341 (isolation #52) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:20 pm
Postby Mathdino »
Okay honestly literally everyone so far has given more jester tells than Heartless.
Assembaa: Generally acts like a jester, claimed jester then took it back.
Aristophanes: "I WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE SAFE BEFORE I COMMIT" oh pls
ethos: The earliest currently alive jester claim
Jay: I mean I think he's town but if you guys all think he's jester then I guess we're not lynching him.
SS: Hard-defended Not_Mafia.
Nothing Heartless has done indicates jester. I think he's more likely scum that's given up after our quicklynch on his partner.
Edit: Okay guys we'll know who's jester tomorrow. The point is that Heartless is not jester, so vote him if you're actually not a jester. If you are, then of course you're gonna hold off on a lynch.
"I just want to play mafia, not Economics Wonderland." - cytheflyguy