Anything uPick? (Endgame)

[Torn Up]

Yeah actually gamma your ISO sucks and I want to let Espeonage clear NSG as he claims he will from his role so this feels better.

VOTE: Gamma

~ C

[ObsessedFanGrill]

VOTE: Taro

[Torn Up]

VOTE: Taro

Why this? I thought Yume was all over this?

~ C

[Mathdino]

It was sarcasm on the inflated sense of self post. You're not trying to figure us out you're just belittling every post we get and acting aggro for 0 reason why would I do anything you ask when you won't do anything in return. All I was asking was for a "please" or a "sorry I'll calm down" yet you can't do that.
~Maki

I appreciate the signing.

The reason I'm aggro is specifically because multiple people have said that they can't get into the game because of excessive spamposting. Now Gamma's calmed that down and has joined the game. Maybe he's scum going along with it, I don't know. But at least he's being pro-town and I actually agree with his reads.

You on the other hand are continually making it harder for people to catch up. You respond to pushes and questions with fluff and personal attacks after shutting the thread down from a 1v1 with ACB (wtf?).

Please explain how me saying "please" or "sorry I'll calm down" helps you (or more specifically helps town-you).

If you have anything game-relevant you want from me, I'm more than willing to work with you. I've seen little to no indication of that. And my best understanding right now is you're voting me because
A. you paid no attention to most things happening today despite somehow being here all the time
B. you don't like that I don't like your play and your clique.

[ObsessedFanGrill]

VOTE: Taro

Why this? I thought Yume was all over this?

~ C

he's 1 of the 2 slots I have in "you have to be scum or my reads are rly wrong somewhere"
Pedit: That was all my other head who does not sign there posts (Alisae) I (Maki) have got here and am trying to catch up as we speak I don't mind if you dislike our play I mind that it felt like you weren't trying to read our slot and that it felt like you were just dismissing us out of dislike I don't really know what my partner has done (nor do I really care) I'm gonna be the main head now that they're busy now I have a few questions if you don't mind you most likely already answered these but I don't have them in my notes:
You were in the neighborhood at the start of the game yes?
How do you feel about Nos?

Any questions for me?
~Maki

[ObsessedFanGrill]

the pedit was at dino
~Maki

[ObsessedFanGrill]

Wait I want to vote this
VOTE: Nos
~Maki

[ObsessedFanGrill]

Both of our heads agree this is the most confident sr from us we have a lot of townreads and "lock town" reads shame chick was an IC since I was tring her already
I feel like this game can be poe'd to a win at this point
~Maki

[Mathdino]

You were in the neighborhood at the start of the game yes?
How do you feel about Nos?

Any questions for me?

Cool, didn't know that was literally just Alisae the whole time.

1. Yes I was. I claimed in that thread thinking it was 2p before the mod said "OH CREATURE IS IN HERE" and Creature came in. I suspect that knowing his death was both inevitable and could vanillaise 2 people was part of why he let himself get lynched. He never claimed to us.

2. I strongly feel like he's the kind of player that I can better read as the game goes on. He seems to have a similar style to me and it looks like his frustration with the thread is genuine (NAI). I don't think a wagon there is a good idea but if you wanna test the waters feel free.

3. Just keep us posted as you go through the thread.

Some major things I could use thoughts on from anyone

:

- Ginngie's vote on Creature looks like a calculated bus. Need more eyes.

- Gamma's ISO is pulling me in 2 different directions. D1 looks shit, everything D2 outside of this hard-defence of me looks town.

- If you've played with NSG before, back up my read on her? Mine is mostly meta-based.

- Thoughts on people as of voting Creature. Above reasoning about #1 heavily indicates he was power/speedbussed to me, as this cut off a lot of discussion.

Edit: Yume and Taro seem tied together by role/alignment. Can you ISO them both and tell me what you think?

[ObsessedFanGrill]

I asked Alisae and how we feel reads wise is

Nos is 100% lock scum we agree on that
Alisae has Gamma as 100% locked scum as well
I have the other scum in:
Nos/Taro/ 1 of Gamma/Smo/Flatearth
everyone else we tr on role or some other matter

now to answer your questions
~Maki

[Mathdino]

If you back it up I'd be willing to compromise lynch Gamma and take a look at Nosf tomorrow.

[ObsessedFanGrill]

Creature is always bussed as scum yes because everyone knows that Creature is really really bad at being scum of course he was bussed anyone trying to be like "oh I'm town for being on the creature wagon" is really really bad.
NSG's early posting felt really genuine along with a line like her saying "oh I bet your other sr is me" it felt like nonconfident town not scared scum
~Maki
Pedit: See I don't really know if I sr gamma myself the only reason I have them in my poe pool is Alisae is like
CLAIRE
GAMMA
IS
LOCK
SCUMMMM
and I'm like "uhhh"
~Maki

[Mathdino]

Actually a much better lynch would be Flat Earth I think. Like I said, I recognise a similar uselessness from chesskidscum. Gamma's mad pro-town nowadays. Putting him in a similar "I can read him better tomorrow" bin as Nosf.

Edit: Okay then let's look at Gamma tomorrow.

Agreed on NSG.

Creature bus if we remove the obvtowns implicates Ginngie, Torn Up, Yume. Check if anyone tried to take credit for being on Creature wagon.

Now you see why I was annoyed with Alisae for doing exactly that.

[Mathdino]

EBWOP: It also implicates you for the record to the viewers at home, but I'm talking to you so whatever

[ObsessedFanGrill]

Fair enough and sure I can do flat earth
VOTE: flat earth
Flat earth has a role that I don't think can be town along with ours too so I'm ok with this lynch (I don't feel like going into detail what this)
~Maki

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Flat Earth

Still scumreading OFG but I'm giving benefit of doubt to newfound hydra head.

Lynchpool: Ginngie, TFES, OFG, Smocaine (policy-only)

TFES needs to provide content anyway.

Lemme know if/when you make progress on the Ginngie dive.

[Torn Up]

@Torn Up: Please explain exactly what prompted your Creature vote (and when in the game this was). Also explain read progression on me (assume no role info about me) and Chickadee prior to her claim (why were you townreading her?).

Oh snap I was scum reading you but this Readslist is pretty impressive... I voted creature to get him up to L-1 so he could claim, I don't know what his scum game looks like but my TRs were pretty convinced this slot was scum. I didn't expect the quickhammer.

Chickadee is obv. town to me which is mainly a meta read. Like my read on NSG, I don't see town NSG playing like this that's why I wanted to know if she was in a hood putting her energy elsewhere.

You initially struck me as LAMIST and waffly, especially all the overdone and numbered responses, it could be a playstyle thing I guess, maybe you always seem tryhard awkward? I'm yet to see a player consistently powerwolf a game through multiple days though so I'm uncertain of my read on you rn. I'll look closer at your ISO later but don't hold your breath.

~ C

[Mathdino]

And your read assuming role info about me?

Yeah that stuff sounds playstyle. Ask Tora about Polygamist Mafia. I wasn't using anywhere near the same strategy but going overboard is me. Waffling is not, but larges are also not me.

[Torn Up]

What role info? What do you think you know about my role? That's a pretty weird push.

~ C

[Torn Up]

You're from the Math hood right? I dont buy people derp clearing you because of the scum vanillaizer. I get why Mastina is cleared from the marriage hood but it's not the same logic.

~ C

[Mathdino]

What role info? What do you think you know about my role? That's a pretty weird push.

~ C

How much are you keeping track of people's roleclaims? (I wasn't before catchup so keep calm and read my catchup in full for public claims I guess)

I was in a hood with Creature and claimed investigative before he entered the thread. His death vanillaized me and my neighbour and locked our PT. My suspicion is that this was all by design. People are townreading me for it but what's important is whether I can locktown my neighbour for it.

I know nothing about your role, calm down.

Edit: That answers it, thanks.

[Chickadee]

Both of our heads agree this is the most confident sr from us we have a lot of townreads and "lock town" reads shame chick was an IC since I was tring her already
I feel like this game can be poe'd to a win at this point
~Maki

The real shame is that I'm only town read as town when I can prove myself as town. If I can't prove myself, I'm almost guaranteed D1 mislynch as town, eh.



Sorry I am bad at this game.

[Torn Up]

Who was the other person in with you?

~ C

[Mathdino]

mfw people forget mathdino is in the math hood

mfw people call me tryhard powertown when this is literally the game i have cared least about

Edit: Sup Chickadee, any thoughts on the shit I need thoughts on (or my reads)? Idk what your IC strategy is like but if it's more hands-on I could use extra perspective.

Edit2: Yeah no. They've had their chance to claim. We'll discuss it tonight when the vanillaize times out.

[Chickadee]

I want to be more hands on. I literally just got home from work, and I work all day tomorrow. So I'm not planning on staying on very long at the moment, eh. Sorry.

I'll look back and see if I can bounce some thoughts off you before I head out, eh.