Mini 1979: Greatest Idea Mafia (Game Over)

[northsidegal]

VOTE: wisdom

[northsidegal]

Being in setup B suggests a lot of people here have preferences for scum roles. I feel like revealing choices for that setup is a good idea, especially who picked scum in the first game.

are you thinking that setup a wasn't chosen because too many people chose scum? remember that if multiple setups met the criteria, the setup would be randomized. there's no way to know whether or not a setup was legal except for the one we're in.

also, not a fan of revealing cards this early.

[northsidegal]

My bad. Scratch Espeonage. I was still in GI mode, not GestI.

what difference does it make?

It says in op it would be randomised among valid setups. All three could have been fine.

why did you repeat what i already said?

[northsidegal]

VOTE: holyspiritturtle

[northsidegal]

You really must've hated that votefuckery game.

funny, i was just reading back through that! but no, my vote is because of this:

Anyways, Espeonage, newearth, and wilky have scummy AF discards.

Why is

MAFIA

Cupid discard a scummy discard?

diamondsentinal quite clearly took back the comment about espeon's discard being scummy in his

very next

post. given that you obviously took the time to check what espeon's discard was and also responded to posts later on in the thread, i can only assume that you noticed this and yet still chose to keep it in your post. i don't see why you would do that except to try to look town / to look busy.

[northsidegal]

Thats not the question. The question is why is Psyche a better pick for a pr instead of Mafia Cupid if Espe doesnt have an alignment preference.

to be a scum cupid his third card choice (assuming he's telling the truth about being psychiatrist) would also have to have been scum. if he got two town cards and mafia cupid as the third, it makes sense as a discard.

@NSG: do you normally naked vote in RVS? Curious on if you had a reason to vote wisdom.

no, not usually. i voted wisdom because i thought vanilla townie was the scummiest discard – not sure why i didn't just say that.

[northsidegal]

HURT: lucky

[northsidegal]

my vote isn't on hst because he discarded seer.

[northsidegal]

I claimed that I missed that post.

Do you not believe me or

Because not believing me there would mean that you think I went for something really REALLY stupid for aforementioned "grabbing towncred," which would kinda hurt my feelings.

i don't see a reason to

not

believe you but i also don't see a reason to move my vote.

[northsidegal]

You didn't follow up on Espe when they admitted to not reading something. Why are you treating HST differently?

as much as i doubt espeon's explanation i don't have anything to suggest that it's not true, and more importantly i don't see the scum motivation.

[northsidegal]

supersaint soft?

[northsidegal]

only two kills is a surprise. so is diamond dying.

@mod does flavor have any relevance to the kills / any bearing on the game?

[northsidegal]

only two kills is a surprise. so is diamond dying.

@mod does flavor have any relevance to the kills / any bearing on the game?

... Is that all you got?

hadn't looked at much other than the kills, honestly.

[northsidegal]

Ok, I had to check Sakura’s ruleslist to check, but theres no confirmation of whether or not flavor is indicative.

However, we can assume that DS was vig SHOT, and *faction* did something to Kirk.

“Killed” i think is neutral, as in, not flavor related.

Flavor kills in this setup may be up to the mod i think.

are you saying "pinned to a tree with a sword" is vig-indicative, or you think diamond was a vig shot based on the thread?

[northsidegal]

Killed is the kill flavour not what's in the write up. So y'all can get back to the game now.

Thoughts on everyone downplaying scum numbers is scum?

saying that there are nine townies alive specifically seems odd to me. given that all the game needed to be valid was a town majority at start and that three or so townies are already dead, all of the various scum factions could theoretically have a majority already, no?

[northsidegal]

VOTE: thenewearth

[northsidegal]

so i reread the thread and i think thenewearth is probably scum. awkward responses to hopkirk, no scumhunting done and hopped on the lucky wagon. she's probably the reason hopkirk is dead right now.

[northsidegal]

so i reread the thread and i think thenewearth is probably scum. awkward responses to hopkirk, no scumhunting done and hopped on the lucky wagon. she's probably the reason hopkirk is dead right now.

How do you feel about HST?

feelings have largely not changed since the early wagon, but the fact that people hopped on the lucky wagon instead of the hst one is cause for further suspicion.

[northsidegal]

awkward responses to hopkirk, no scumhunting done and hopped on the lucky wagon. she's probably the reason hopkirk is dead right now.

What possible reason would I actually kill hopkirk for?

huh? how about the fact that he suspected you as scum and, especially after talking with lucky about how your vote was scummy, probably would have pushed you today?

why act like it's so unbelievable that you as scum would want him dead?

[northsidegal]

And you dont think Lucky deserved any of the blame that he was scummy?

well, he obviously was joking around more than taking the game seriously, but i still think the wagon on him seemed unnatural. also, pretty much everyone's justification for being on the wagon was weak.

Spoiler:

VOTE: wisdom

Sorry just noticed wisdom is in the game. Probably scum because he is always scum.

VOTE: Lucky2U

We are moving into a more serious discussion and you hit out with this?

Discussing Paradox i was in that other game and this is less like an evolition of meta and much more like a different alignment to me.

No need to defend me Diamond, in fact it's kind of weird that you did...

I have no intention of taking day 1 seriously. By all means continue though.

That doesn't look good to me; not taking day 1 seriously can mean the difference between winning and losing.
VOTE: Lucky2u

So in a setup like this there is no time to be complacent. We could be staring down the barrel of a large amount of scum. There is no time to not take day one seriously.

People have also Shit all over hst, which ruined the wagon.

invite, vote:lucky

I'll wagon hop for now. Lucky and HST both seem like low-hanging fruit, but at this point, I'm gonna go for that rather than a long shot.
VOTE: Lucky

I claim hero. Good luck.

VOTE: lucky

VOTE: Lucky

L-1

VOTE: Lucky

Happy New Year!

there's obviously a little bit of context that i missed in this but this is the gist of it.

[northsidegal]

TNE- slightly leaning town. Even with his not-so-grand entrance, he's done a decent job scum hunting. This is probably my read most likely to change.

this is a lie / fake, by the way.

[northsidegal]

oh, hadn't seen the newest page.

[northsidegal]

Finally, does anything think kokichi’s reaction to my vote was reasonable? Seems overreacting

seems reasonable to me, really.

[northsidegal]

Sorry everyone; when I said TNE I meant assemble, and when I said assemble I meant TNE.
I'm stupid.

i mean, it's still obviously a lie.

I dont know what to do, so the question is:

if you had a gun, who would you shoot?

i'd shoot paradox - if i'm right on paradox being scum then i'm also probably on the right track with tne, but the inverse isn't true, if that makes any sense.

[northsidegal]

i pick town for alignments and the pr in both cases. i'm really bad at being scum and haven't found it that fun in my limited experience.

[northsidegal]

i pick town for alignments and the pr in both cases. i'm really bad at being scum and haven't found it that fun in my limited experience.

So this is a complete lie?

in what way?

[northsidegal]

oh.

why are you townreading paradox? his assemble / tne read seems completely fabricated to me.

[northsidegal]

VOTE: north

VOTE: north

wtf is this nonsense
North is pretty obvtown considering the last game I played with her

how are you basing your read on me this game off of that game? just on the fact that my posting seems similar?

Her posting is different than that game.

Shes kinda... sloppy tbh.

in what way? also,

[northsidegal]

forgot,
VOTE: thenewearth

[northsidegal]

actually, yeah – schism, could you elaborate on this?

VT? Really?

I think I see the same thing wisdom and TNE do.

[northsidegal]

i think wisdom and tne are scum and aren't even trying to hide it.

vote wisdom

[northsidegal]

[northsidegal]

[northsidegal]

oh, just remembered that that game finally ended so you should all look at micro 765 as compared to newbie 1836 for why i think tne is scum. i'll try to get some good quotes to show what i mean.

[northsidegal]

i'm here, will get around to actually quoting stuff from tne like i meant to (not sure how much it'll matter). gamma, i think you're making a mistake in that assuming because people have a bad reason to scumread someone (wisdom's apathy) that that makes that person town. my preferred lynch is thenewearth, today.

VOTE: thenewearth

[northsidegal]

wouldnt that be blatant disregard of x alignment wincon too

why dont you get my apathy is not ai

scum don't need to actually play during the day the game to win, so not really.

[northsidegal]

got the day start pm – first of all, the fact that there weren't any kills means that there's probably only one killing scum faction left.

wisdom, could you give an actual reason for me or tgp being scum here?

gamma, you haven't casted a vote yet, nor have you made an attempt at engaging with either of the two lynch options today – what are you waiting for?

VOTE: north

explain this, please? i expect more words from you than wisdom.


i scumread paradox yesterday for the nonsensical readslist but with a game having completed since then and me having metad him, i think he's pretty likely to be town. even if i'm wrong on this, i'd rather reconsider on a day when town isn't railroaded into a decision.
VOTE: no lynch (l-1)

[northsidegal]

would you expect aliens to use their nightkill night one? i guess i could see that if hopkirk was pushing really hard on one of them, but i'd think it'd be the kind of thing that would be saved.

are we sure that hopkirk killed diamond? what do the nk claims look like?

[northsidegal]

I didn't notice No Lynch was a valid option
Is everyone okay with me hammering no-lynch?

is there nothing you'd like to say before the day ends?

[northsidegal]

If there are three groupscum then game is decided by scum kill v protective. If it is bulletproof game is over while not technically over. So whatever.

If it doc chances are we still lose regardless of what we do here.

If not three groupscum then we can afford a lynch if it's two I think maths works that we should lynch regardless maybe.

If we have two groups then I prefer no lynch.

:/

Should we massclaim?

could you elaborate on / clarify this? i'm not really following what you're saying.

Not really, nothing has really changed or developed

i find that slightly hard to believe. i also find it slightly suspicious that, given that you have nothing final you'd like everyone to keep in mind going into the night nor any reservations about quickhammering day end, you don't seem to be concerned about dying.

[northsidegal]

[northsidegal]

inopportune time to be busy.

oh well, i knew this game was a loss the moment i rolled essentially a non-bp sk.

hst your roleblock didn't actually stop a kill, i actually no-killed night two.

[northsidegal]

you can release the "northsidegal talks to herself" pt.

[northsidegal]

you can see my rationale in the pt.

will i ever know why you were voting me?

[northsidegal]

i guess i underestimated how much the spotlight really was on me. like, i didn't think that i came out of day two under that much heat, but from the night actions i obviously did.

inopportune time to be busy.

oh well, i knew this game was a loss the moment i rolled essentially a non-bp sk.

hst your roleblock didn't actually stop a kill, i actually no-killed night two.

I didn't really care about the possibilities tbh. I was more interested in lynching someone.

yeah, just thought i'd let everyone know how unlucky i am!