Team Mafia 2018: Inventions Mafia Day 4

[xRECKONERx]

So, both Spiffeh and Espeonage think Reckoner is scum.

They brought up the same thing I had noticed. I'm talking about eg. this:

think RC's team saw FB's slot/scumteam and RC swooped into the rescue but i can't vote there yet because i promised to policy RVS vote the spam squad

By that post RadiantCowbells

had clearly explained

the reason for the swap.

Althoug I'm back after one-and-a-half year and I've missed a lot, in Team Mafia, things like that explanation from RC is something

can be confirmed instantly

. So, in short, the swap in itself is null.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: xRECKONERx

I don't understand. I'm saying I didn't buy RC's explanation.
That was also prior to Shea or Keely being online. They've since both confirmed that Cabd and RC have major problems with each other and that it's not bullshit. Keely notes however that RC's expectation that Shea/Keely would've already briefed me on that note is "skeevy".

VOTE: Creature

Scum.

VOTE: xRECKONERx.

nice

and btw

Elect: chesskid

[xRECKONERx]

man i have such a hard time believing Spiffeh actually truly with his heart of hearts thinks I'm scum for reading the RC swap as bullshit before I had teammates online to give context

like i am REALLY having a hard time swallowing that

@Anen can you ask Spiffeh why he's shit pls i need good stronk town spiffeh here to talk you off the ledge

[Something_Smart]

okay so what was the point of that comment then?

This question is phrased in a way that makes it difficult to not give an awkward answer. There was no POINT per se; I just said what I was thinking.

Which RC? Are you assuming RC is ignorant of self-meta?

There's only one RC, and he is very aware of self-meta but I wasn't trying to draw any conclusions from it. (In fact, it's rather the opposite: that is such a characteristic thing for him to say that he'd absolutely say it as either alignment.)

[xRECKONERx]

time for some sPiCeY tAkEs

TOWN CANDIDATES

Hinduragi (though I fully admit this could be my awful blind spot coming into play still not touching it d1; but out of every player here he probably has the most experience with me to know me though it has been years)
Primate (like his reads rn and hasn't stuck his head up his own ass)
chesskid (i have played one game with chesskid reborn and he was town and it was similar to this and he's agreeing with me so check check check)
RadiantCowbells (after getting context from shea/keely + rereading his posts in iso with those contexts i see slight town motivation which is better than null)
GuiltyLion (despite weird bs tonal opening, liked that he seems to be actually thinking about things and i like the vote on anen but this is my weakest townread thus far)

SCUM CANDIDATES

Anen (really can't swallow this spiffeh b/s forced scumread on me, looks like vapid posturing to join my wagon)
Cheeky (votes me for not knowing RC's meta; also agrees with chess that "Anen is scum if RC isn't" and if CT really read RC as town enough to vote me for 'misreading' him, then he should've been more ready to jump on Anen)
mastina (and this'll stay until actual readable things are posted and not just "someone is scum because they RVS voted someone")
Something_Smart (dislike the pot shots from the side thus far; early day engagement over rules questions always skeeve me out when they don't go anywhere, and this one felt like scum being worried about town-me getting an advantage by metagaming)
Katyusha (idk this is why i don't like binary sorting because katyu is more just MOR and null right now and i dont feel strongly either way but gun to my head the stuff with mastina i could totally see being scum theater? katyu requires too many associative reads to be a d1 lynch IMO)

INACTIVE

EP
Creature
BYF
Srceenplay

VOTE: Cheeky

[Creature]

Oh cool, I need to catch up 10 pages.

[Creature]

Page 3
xRECKONERx is a fine wagon.

[Srceenplay]

VOTE: cheeky

[Creature]

Probably town for this move alone btw.

???

[Creature]

we're not giving the hider to a townread

I agree.

[Srceenplay]

I also see Mastina as scum.
I like RC reasoning for hider.
And
Mastina trying to elect RC feels like they are trying to set him up for a NK.

[Creature]

Unless you trust I'll hide behind the right person.

[Srceenplay]

I also see Mastina as scum.
I like RC reasoning for hider.
And
Mastina trying to elect RC feels like they are trying to set him up for a NK.

Edit.
I like RC theory on how to use the hider.

[Creature]

Is it alright to give hider to someone in the scumpool and force that someone to target someone else in the scumpool?

[Creature]

I so hate when I don't have a VC in a silver platter.

[Creature]

EBWOP

{Katyusha, GL, Primate}
{RC, Mastina, Something_Smart, Chesskid}
{xRECKONERx, Hinduragi, Aneninen}

Forgot chess.

I didn't notice GL nor Primate posting lol.

[Creature]

oh but ill give a teaser.

VOTE: Mastina

hurr these two are scum votes the way townier one

VOTE: mastina

[Primate]

Not feeling Cheekyscum.

re: mastina, I don't like her scum?/scum bit, but other than that, I think she seems more just wrong than scummy, and it's hard to get much more of a read on that because she isn't really going in depth. See where it goes.

[Creature]

Not feeling Cheekyscum, but feeling mastinascum. Haven't seen how wrong mastina is other than the reachy conclusion about RC.

[Primate]

I disagree with her about SS, chess and Reck. (The first two more than the last, but I don't get where the sureness is coming from). I'm not talking about the invention plan stuff, that stuff is sure, whatever.

[Creature]

I agree on Reck. Haven't seen SS nor chess.

[Creature]

What do you think about giving RC the hider?

[Primate]

Prefer to give it to someone scummier.

[Creature]

Okay then.

[Katyusha]

Yikes that reck readlist

uhm

how does having experience with you make hindu town? I can understand not wanting to D1 him but you put him down as a town candidate which implies you have a substantial reason to tr him

Mastina has posted actual things besides her typical opening? No thoughts on those?

your take on me is also pretty awful, i’m not middle of the road right now and I have no idea how you get “scum theatre” from Mastina and me barely interacting? Besides Mastina what interactions are you looking for to lynch me? Like I can’t even process what your intentions are here honestly I feel like you don’t even have a reason to put me in your scumpool


on the bright side tho creature is

town

pedit: creature you think rc is scummy?

[Creature]

I noticed 186 btw and so maybe it isn't so reachy anymore.