Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Mulch]

Holy shit this guy is from 2006

=/

Not in a bad way

[Transcend]

VOTE: chara

[Mulch]

VOTE: chara

Nice try doggy

[Transcend]

It's scum

[Mulch]

nope

If your town doggy then kamani or whatever their name is scum

so if I were u I would vote them

[Kmd4390]

i think im going to mark kagami as green

VOTE: Mulch

VOTE: Transcend

VOTE: Ginngie

Spiffy is still a scum mouse

Holy shit dudes. Cabd is scum.

Why? (To all of you). Ginngie has kind of answered since but I still want to know where the initial vote came from, if anywhere.

@Cheet: Seems unlikely to me that Una made up that he believed he had missed a lot of game-time, whereas I think he'd be more alert to the gamestate as scum.

I'm kind of upset that this is resonating with me.

I don't get it. Why would he have thought he missed it as town but not as scum?

it's like

una, trans

and someone i dont care about

That's kind of my thought right now.

well until i'm fully convinced he can be town i'm pretty much just locked in my tunnel here dude

Why does scum-mulch pull the whole mason thing just to come out and say Tor is town regardless of his own alignment? How does that help him?

I think Trans is a bad lynch today. I think mulch is a bad lynch today. (considering I have been here watching it unravel throughout the workday)
So far I have no solid reason for scumreading either of Firebringer/Ginngie. (although I'm sure Ginngie will provide something for me to scumread, and there's still no way to lynch her)
Cheetory is pinging me, not yet sure why. I'm liking his effort though, so prob. not a good lynch-candidate.
Toranaga is null for me, hard to get a grasp on.
Spiffeh puzzles me. Maybe it's because I'm a nub, but I thought he would bring the fire from post #1 onwards. But I guess he will either show his work, be it scum or town, whenever he has time to post more.

Does no one see that this is just a bunch of filler?

I just want the two of them off each other, because I believe in a thing where it might be bad for town if we all just spam the thread - no matter how "good" our content is, or how right we think we are.
We might feel like we are "gamesolving" and see others making "mistakes" and whatnot, but in truth we might just end up giving the actual scum room to sit in silence -> sheep -> sit in silence -> sheep...
And town make bad posts too, just read my ISO.

I do actually like this tbh.

you'll see my mulch progression in future pages

k, got it.

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I kind of see where firebringer is coming from on cheet and his answer about trying harder makes sense too. The last time I saw him try this hard, we were scum together but even that was a different kind of trying if that makes sense. It's probably just the fact that it's team mafia and we all have more people relying on us. I've town read cheet's content so far for what that's worth.

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It's town keely

Who? And any reasoning behind those reads?

Why is Transcend and his bullshit reaction test scummy and what pushes of mine are political because I haven't even fucking pushed anyone yet

When I know, you'll know.

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Patrick, I'm direct when I'm confident. This is already feeling like last team mafia though where so much is going on I get lost and lose confidence. Cheet was on my team last time and should be able to verify how bad I played. I was town and couldn't solidify reads worth shit. I actually think I'm doing better this time around if anything.

This seems a bit feigned in it's aggressiveness

Probably because it's coming from someone other than me so when I posted it rather than Mathdino, it lacks the emotion that was behind the original message. Basically, I get the feeling you wouldn't feel that way had Mathdino posted it rather than myself.

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Holy shit, that's it? I'm caught up? Cool.

[Patrick]

I mean, it's not a terrible vote. I haven't had any townvibes from Chara but that's about it. What made her a better vote than Mulch, who you've used strong words about?

[Transcend]

Brb work

[Cheetory6]

Hi Patrick congrats on pocketing me!
Do you have any thoughts on Cabd?

Is this a very strong point? If he has been busy the past few days and lost track of when game's were starting, I'm not sure why being scum would make him more alert to the gamestate.

My read here has ebbed and flowed a little bit. I think every readlist Una has posted has been really really bad and I don't really think there's much scumhunting coming from him as a slot and in general his content has definitely been very reactive.

Kagami's point is probably sitting less strongly with me now, but I'm kind of unsure because a lot of people are saying this is what Una is typically like as town and even though I didn't feel like that was the case with the one game I dove, I'm still feeling kind of waffly/influenced/maybe even a little discouraged? It's at a point where I feel like I could really easily draft up a sexy case on Una but I'm just kind of not feeling it if that makes sense?

If Cabd starts being town I might be down to try rewagoning.

Kmd feels off to me. I do think it's possible the team chat was put in the thread just to show indecision, and I always remembered Kmd as a more direct player than that. Admitedly, my meta might be about 6 years old, heh.

Shea felt kind of similarly a little while ago, but we talked about this a bit and it seems also probable that KMD is just being more transparent because it's Team Mafia.

Which actually reminds me:

Ugh. Page 5 gives me town reads on mulch, firebringer, and tor. I wanted to vote mulch on policy but won't if I'm townreading him./quote]Can you talk about what on page five made you feel like these three were town?

I don't get it. Why would he have thought he missed it as town but not as scum?

I feel like in general scum is going to try to plan things in advance/generally be aware of the gamestate and the way Una built up to saying that didn't really seem forced/fake? With a little more time I kind of agree that it's maybe a little more null than I was originally thinking when I first heard it.

Who? And any reasoning behind those reads?

Keely's my IRL name.

[implosion]

@kmd, keely is cheetory. And I'll justify things in ~4 hours.
Also,

Why does scum-mulch pull the whole mason thing just to come out and say Tor is town regardless of his own alignment? How does that help him?

This is something he has explicitly stated he just does sometimes.

[Mulch]

This is something he has explicitly stated he just does sometimes.

I have?

[Firebringer]

Hi Patrick congrats on pocketing me!

See cheetory it’s weird little things like this that make me feel uneasy
But I sort of think ur town regardless of the weird things

[Transcend]

Nvm Car won't start hi

Me and my team collectively sr mulch but no one is budging and i give up

[Cheetory6]

If I was typing it in lowercase with a skeleton avatar you would be townreading me.

[Mulch]

Nvm Car won't start hi

Me and my team collectively sr mulch but no one is budging and i give up

Why does Eddie Cane scumread me

[Patrick]

Hi Patrick congrats on pocketing me!

Thanks, I think.

The "Mulch is an asshole and therefore probably town" feels weird to me. Don't really see your point on the Kagami read given the stipulation that Cabd has skimmed and would be coming back with more time later. I'm more interested in what he posts than in voting him atm.

[Cheetory6]

The point with the Kagami bit is that I don't really understand why he would post it at all as town, not that I don't think the sentiment could be real if he was town.

I think that as scum it could be posturing about Kagami to try to make them feel like there's some kind of effort being directed towards trying to parse them and/or setting tasks/goals to hold himself accountable to doing specific tasks (which is something I've done before in the past as scum to keep myself motivated).

[implosion]

This is something he has explicitly stated he just does sometimes.

I have?

Yep.

[Mulch]

This is something he has explicitly stated he just does sometimes.

I have?

Yep.

.... as a town strategy?

So why are you trying to pin it on me as if it's not towny?


Regardless of the fact that I did it this game because I was pretty sure Toranaga took town so it's not exactly random

but still

[Firebringer]

If I was typing it in lowercase with a skeleton avatar you would be townreading me.

Chuckie finster is scummy

[implosion]

I mean.

The benefit of doing it as scum is pretty damn apparent from the argument that you make in that thread. You "confirm yourself as town."

I personally think it's meaningless in terms of reading into your alignment, whereas it could potentially be very useful for reading into the alignment of someone without the same meta of having done it before.

[Mulch]

I mean.

The benefit of doing it as scum is pretty damn apparent from the argument that you make in that thread. You "confirm yourself as town."

I personally think it's meaningless in terms of reading into your alignment, whereas it could potentially be very useful for reading into the alignment of someone without the same meta of having done it before.

Did you read the thread or are you just bullshitting?

[Patrick]

I think that as scum it could be posturing about Kagami to try to make them feel like there's some kind of effort being directed towards trying to parse them and/or setting tasks/goals to hold himself accountable to doing specific tasks (which is something I've done before in the past as scum to keep myself motivated).

I guess that's a possible interpretation. I just also easily imagine town having one or two people they want to sort as a priority. Anyhow, interested to see what Cabd has to say.

[Patrick]

Hi Patrick congrats on pocketing me!

See cheetory it’s weird little things like this that make me feel uneasy
But I sort of think ur town regardless of the weird things

Pocketing just means town reading, or something more? Why was this comment weird?

[Firebringer]

When was last time u played mafia?