Team Mafia 2018: Inventions Mafia Day 4

[Hinduragi]

Btw I think ck is town. I get you think he's going for weakness but if he was scum he'd want to be doing something to be actually proud of. This is some weak stuff from scumck.

[xRECKONERx]

Okay boys and girls let's break this down.

First off,

RadiantCowbells

: other people had read me as town before chesskid3. Hindu had. chess. BYF did before finishing catching up. If you're gonna apply that logic to chesskid then you're gonna have to explain why every other person who had me as town doesn't matter.

Also, read a dictionary, because objectively clearly doesn't mean what you think it means.

Also, I never called you scum. I said I thought it was possible. I questioned the swap. I expressed my doubts. I never voted for you, not once, even when you made a lazy-ass vote on me. I kept my vote on Creature, then Cheeky, now mastina. In fact, go re-read my interactions with you- there was never a concrete scum read there.

Also, I did ask my team about chesskid's play. They all think he's town.

Finally:

People sheep my votes. Adenine sheeped my vote too, Mastina did it, it happens a lot. That does not make Mastina scum.

In no way did mastina's vote on me represent sheeping you. She tried to point to my RVS vote on Creature as a basis for her vote.
Fuck outta here with that

Second off,

BigYoshiFan

: why the chesskid vote after saying you weren't done reading?

Third off,

Hinduragi

: I'm voting mastina because I think the emptyvote on me was dumb and mastina hasn't shown back up to clarify it and the amount of hard buddying she's getting RIGHT NOW without even showing up to defend herself is ludicrous. The original emptyvote on me was quoting my blank RVS vote on creature and calling me scum for it. Other people rushed in to say, "Oh no, that's just mastina's meta!" I don't give a fuck about meta, I give a fuck about reasons and play in this game. Meta is an easy thing to hide behind so the argument carries no weight for me.

Cheeky waiting for RC to go all cute tryhard ragemode in order to stuff a vote on chesskid really sits wrong with me, especially asking for the hider afterwards. I won't give Cheeky the hider for anything.

[chesskid3]

But trying to rush the quicklynch is god awful

lmao except for one post of talking to reck about how funny it would be where have I said anything of that?

I even reminded not to push too far because need to elect hider soooo idek what youre smoking

[Hinduragi]

See this is something people always fucking jump people for in my games
People sheep my votes. Adenine sheeped my vote too, Mastina did it, it happens a lot. That does not make Mastina scum.
Mastina could potentially be scum but there is not even close to sufficient justification for this push and if Mastina IS scum then chesskid is as well.

Did she sheep? I just saw quote of reck's creature vote and then mastina says "scum" and votes him. Not gonna lie I skimmed after I saw the vote so I could've missed it.

[chesskid3]

Btw I think ck is town. I get you think he's going for weakness but if he was scum he'd want to be doing something to be actually proud of. This is some weak stuff from scumck.

I mean this would be fantastic scumplay from me but I just don't get inspired by scum roles and this posting doesn't work without the rage

[chesskid3]

See this is something people always fucking jump people for in my games
People sheep my votes. Adenine sheeped my vote too, Mastina did it, it happens a lot. That does not make Mastina scum.
Mastina could potentially be scum but there is not even close to sufficient justification for this push and if Mastina IS scum then chesskid is as well.

Did she sheep? I just saw quote of reck's creature vote and then mastina says "scum" and votes him. Not gonna lie I skimmed after I saw the vote so I could've missed it.

No she set up a terrible interaction to chain pressure on Reck with an easy bailout to Anenin

[CheekyTeeky]

Give me the hider AND lynch mastina. If mastina is scum I hide behind RC and if mastina is town I hide behind chess and it clears everything up for everyone. Deal?

Nah I think the better deal is give me the hider and the mastina lynch

if she flips town I'll find a way to suicide in a manner that will be determinable.

Not if you're going to hide behide a TR like a derp! Also this RC vs Chess thing is going to be way too distracting. Get it over with.

[CheekyTeeky]

Like Hinduragi I believe this is TvT. Just saying.

[chesskid3]

I'm voting mastina because I think the emptyvote on me was dumb and mastina hasn't shown back up to clarify it and the amount of hard buddying she's getting RIGHT NOW without even showing up to defend herself is ludicrous.

TESTIFY

[chesskid3]

Give me the hider AND lynch mastina. If mastina is scum I hide behind RC and if mastina is town I hide behind chess and it clears everything up for everyone. Deal?

Nah I think the better deal is give me the hider and the mastina lynch

if she flips town I'll find a way to suicide in a manner that will be determinable.

Not if you're going to hide behide a TR like a derp! Also this RC vs Chess thing is going to be way too distracting. Get it over with.

Uhhh no I'm going to use it to live if mastina flips scum since hider fucks parity

I'll suicide if she flips town.

[chesskid3]

Like this is easymode wtf people

[RadiantCowbells]

Give me the hider AND lynch mastina. If mastina is scum I hide behind RC and if mastina is town I hide behind chess and it clears everything up for everyone. Deal?

Nah I think the better deal is give me the hider and the mastina lynch

if she flips town I'll find a way to suicide in a manner that will be determinable.

Like this is a literal scumclaim and means that mastina is probably town fyi
chesskid's entire approach to the hider situation has been a literal scumclaim

If I can't get yall on CK I am fine with an approach that involves someone hiding behind CK but that's suboptimal

Btw I think ck is town. I get you think he's going for weakness but if he was scum he'd want to be doing something to be actually proud of. This is some weak stuff from scumck.

Go ask LLD how she felt about my firebringer read in FG's game before we got that lynch going.

chesskid3. Hindu had. chess. BYF did before finishing catching up. If you're gonna apply that logic to chesskid then you're gonna have to explain why every other person who had me as town doesn't matter.

BYF doesn't count because I don't know where his catch up ended.

There's an important dynamic missing where Hindu didn't -really- townread you. I strongly feel based on his behaviour that not only is he town but that he was mostly defending you because of his personal feelings towards you. It happens a significant amount in mafia and I think even if you asked Hindu he would tell you that personal feelings played a role, even if he thought he townread you.

Did anyone who doesn't have a personal attachment to you townread you, is what we need to be really going off of?

And there is a significant difference between hindu and CK in terms of their townreads on you.

Like Hinduragi I believe this is TvT. Just saying.

Everyone always thinks its a TvT when I go after the scum MVP. If you think it's TvT let me hide behind CK.

[RadiantCowbells]

Give me the hider AND lynch mastina. If mastina is scum I hide behind RC and if mastina is town I hide behind chess and it clears everything up for everyone. Deal?

Nah I think the better deal is give me the hider and the mastina lynch

if she flips town I'll find a way to suicide in a manner that will be determinable.

Not if you're going to hide behide a TR like a derp! Also this RC vs Chess thing is going to be way too distracting. Get it over with.

This needs to happen cheeky just please.

[chesskid3]

nobodies fucking hiding behind me when I'm the obvious fucking nightkill anyway jesus christ get your head out of your ass canal

[Hinduragi]

Reck my dude

Im still reading and not trying to derail/defend, I just want some sane people to be left in the game later in the days. I just assumed you guys were trying to get some moonlight in a hurry based off how RC's talking. You guys all gotta chill.

[chesskid3]

Like is it worth losing a lynch and me when I just fucked scumstina for your moronic shouting ways?

NOpe, it's not

I get the hider, we get a dead mastina and they have to shoot not me KTHX

[xRECKONERx]

Reck my dude

Im still reading and not trying to derail/defend, I just want some sane people to be left in the game later in the days. I just assumed you guys were trying to get some moonlight in a hurry based off how RC's talking. You guys all gotta chill.

playing with RC is giving me gas so the sooner this is sorted the better

[RadiantCowbells]

Reck stop for a minute: why do you actually think that Chesskid is town?

[Srceenplay]

If you think it's TvT let me hide behind CK.

Then two good town could die. Why lobby an easy pitch to scum?

[chesskid3]

nah you dont get to tell him to stop when you ignored my stop request

[chesskid3]

my plan is literally perfect *shrug*

[RadiantCowbells]

Hindu back off for a second. Reck ignore chesskid for a second.
What is it to you that tells you that Chesskid is town?

Because I think when you examine it you'll find out that the reason that you townread him is because you feel good about him because of his actions in the game and not because of objective towniness.
Ask your teammates to take a look at him too because from my point of view it's transparent that he's been trying to pocket your slot from the get go

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

Still want mastina to do stuff.

[chesskid3]

CREATURE YOU FUCK

[RadiantCowbells]

Like if Mastina does stuff that indicates they are in fact scum I have zero issues lynching her. But that's not where we are right now.

ANd if we do lynch Mastina, I'm taking the hider.