Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Ether]

Day 1, Votecount 17

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4 Cabd (Firebringer, Spiffeh, Cheetory6, Transcend)
2 Transcend (Chara, Ginngie)
1 Kmd4390 (Patrick)
1 Mulch (Kagami)

7 Unvote (Aristophanes, Cabd, implosion, Kmd4390, Mulch, Toranaga, UnaBombaH)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-05 00:00:00), on Sunday, February 4 at 11:59 pm EST.

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[Chara]

i can't make you use your vote, though i wish you would.

[Mulch]

I think I'd like implosion to complete wherever he was going in his dialogue with Mulch.

Sure. I intentionally cut it off because I was pretty sure it wasn't going anywhere and I don't want to take over the thread with a discussion that I think is mostly meaningless.

The entire thread was dedicated to how if you knew you were town, claiming a mason with someone and pretending you are masons makes it so that town as a collective has a better chance to hit scum. So I'm confused at how you tried to discredit someone that townread me because of it based on the thread. Because the premise is 1) Lynching scum better 2) You have to be town in the first place. This is why I'm asking if you actually read the thread, because you trying to say "oh, Mulch would be confirmed town as scum" based on THAT THREAD which had the premise of the seeker being town makes no sense to me. Of course if I'm scum and I try to mason someone I'm going to be town, but that has nothing to do with the thread at all

The reason that I mentioned that thread in the first place was entirely to give context that is, IMO, necessary to accurately interpret your mason claim. That context is not the details of the thread or your argument: it's just that you've thought about and acted out fakeclaiming masons before, in general, not necessarily only as town.

I think it means that the mason claim is null, because it's something you've thought a lot about. I think someone as seemingly self-meta-aware as you would know the advantage you could gain in your scumgames by claiming masons like that and then saying you were doing it because you were town and have a history of doing it as town; if you only ever did it as town and repeatedly pointed out how you only ever did it as town, it would be a trust tell. Given what you're claiming, that you've mostly done it as town but occasionally as scum, it isn't foolproof, and if there's one game where I think you or anyone would be likely to intentionally break a meta pattern like that in a scumgame it would be team mafia. Which is why I don't trust it as a reason to towntell you. That said, I don't think it's scummy. I think it's meaningless. I personally am actually not really sure how to reliably read you. I can see the point made earlier about you potentially not wanting to give toranga towncred as scum but it's not something I think you're that unlikely to do as scum, especially if you think toranga is going to be townread anyway.

Will be home to complete thoughts in ~hour and a half.

This is solid

But I do want to ask why haven't you considered it wasn't random and that I actually think Toranaga is town and thought we could mason

[Toranaga]

i can't make you use your vote, though i wish you would.

VOTE: transcend

I'm hard pocketed, please be town :<

[Firebringer]

Firebringer, North feels you are fluffing too much so I ISOd you and can find a total of five reads and zero legit reasons. Can you back up the reads you've posted and give a few more?

Tell north she isn’t allowed to comment on me until she accepts or declines my internet date invitation

Well question was for north.
I want her to answer this kmd

Then I’ll answer ur question

[Kmd4390]

You're really holding up answering a question in a mafia game for non mafia reasons?

[Firebringer]

I feel a real connection between me nsg and its distracting me from game

[Firebringer]

Who says you can’t find love in team mafia?

[Ether]

Firebringer, North feels you are fluffing too much so I ISOd you and can find a total of five reads and zero legit reasons. Can you back up the reads you've posted and give a few more?

Tell north she isn’t allowed to comment on me until she accepts or declines my internet date invitation

Northsidegal u can’t play hard to get forever!

Firebringer, North feels you are fluffing too much so I ISOd you and can find a total of five reads and zero legit reasons. Can you back up the reads you've posted and give a few more?

Tell north she isn’t allowed to comment on me until she accepts or declines my internet date invitation

Well question was for north.
I want her to answer this kmd

Then I’ll answer ur question

I feel a real connection between me nsg and its distracting me from game

Who says you can’t find love in team mafia?

Stop. Stop now.

[Firebringer]

Lol fine

[Kmd4390]

Ok I was hoping that was some kind of inside joke. Doesn't seem to be. Not my place to comment further.

But can you answer my questions?

[Firebringer]

Ether is against love

[Ether]

I said stop.

[Firebringer]

Ok I was hoping that was some kind of inside joke. Doesn't seem to be. Not my place to comment further.

But can you answer my questions?

I’ll answer when I get home.

I just got off work

[Firebringer]

I said stop.

I have issues with u getting involved here
But I’ll save it for another venue

I am dropping it like I said I would

[Toranaga]

unrelated to the game, but this reminds me MS does mod communication wrong. it should be 100% done privately and not referenced by players in the game. questions about mechanics etc that should be clear to all players are ofc supposed to be answered in the thread, but even the player that asked the question should be private to avoid any kind of spew.

this is a banal example of in-thread mod communication that can be read into, at least partially, as a conditional read. not important, not anyone's fault, but mod communication rules rn are inappropriate for playing forum mafia imo.

[Cabd]

I've played with mulch as asshole-scum. I'm saying there's a specific nuance to it this game that makes me think this isn't the same mulch from that normal game.

I'm doing my best not to just ragequit when proven false things are used here and elsewhere to once again drag my name through the mud and people literally break the rule about bringing in out of game grudges but here we fucking are, folks.

Please compare mulch hater-boner to me in THIS game: viewtopic.php?f=53&t=73108

to his ISO here. It's different enough to earn that read from me.

[Firebringer]

Cabd why did u choose this game knowing rc said he would play a normal?

[Toranaga]

cabd: don't rage quit yo. I'm not policy voting anyone, I wanna lynch scum instead.

I understand your read, I just dislike the way you made it. what do you think of other players in the game?

[Cabd]

Cabd why did u choose this game knowing rc said he would play a normal?

I didn't read any of the pregame threads. I didn't read any of the signup or hype threads. I was begged by LLD to fill in on her team, jumped in mostly blind, and picked a game that looked interesting.

So how was I to know RC wanted to play a normal. Of which there are two, by the way.

[Cabd]

I mean hell I didn't even check the other rosters; last I'd heard RC had quit the site because he didn't agree with Zor's decision.

[Firebringer]

Cabd why did u choose this game knowing rc said he would play a normal?

I didn't read any of the pregame threads. I didn't read any of the signup or hype threads. I was begged by LLD to fill in on her team, jumped in mostly blind, and picked a game that looked interesting.

So how was I to know RC wanted to play a normal. Of which there are two, by the way.

You could have just said u didn’t read pregame thread...

[Toranaga]

why the hell are you explaining yourself to such a ridiculous question cabd? you play whatever game you want yo.

also fire, stop getting personal. your question had nothing to do with alignments in this game.

smh

[Firebringer]

I am going to ask personal questions
Mafia is a social game

The better I know someone the better I read them.

[Toranaga]

nah take your virgin drama elsewhere