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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:47 pm

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Day 1, Votecount 23


They tried to make me do a reread, but I said, no, no, no
Yes, LyLo's on, but the chance that I'm wrong is low, low, low
I ain't got the time, and if my suspect wants to whine
Just try to make me do a reread, but I won't go, go, go
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3 Cabd (Spiffeh, Transcend, Toranaga)
3 Transcend (Chara, Ginngie, Mulch)
3 UnaBombaH (Cheetory6, implosion, Kmd4390)
1 Kmd4390 (Patrick)
1 Mulch (Kagami)
1 Spiffeh (Firebringer)

3 Unvote (Aristophanes, Cabd, UnaBombaH)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-05 00:00:00), on Sunday, February 4 at 11:59 pm EST.


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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:48 pm

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In post 898, Transcend wrote:Giga's reads this game:


Town: implosion, kagami, cheetory6, chara, toranaga
Null: Firebringer, Aristophanes, Patrick, UnaBombaH, Kmd4390
Null-scum: Ginngie
Scum: Spiffeh, Cabd, Mulch
Besides mulch scum.
I can agree with most of this
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:49 pm

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and here's my current reads in order of confidence from town to scum

1. Toranaga
2. implosion
3. Cheetory6
4. Firebringer
5. UnaBombaH
6. Kagami
7. Aristophanes
8. Patrick
9. Kmd4390
10. Spiffeh
11. Chara
12. Ginngie
13. Cabd
14. Mulch

i've been instructed to trust chara and i'm gonna go ahead and heed that advice but i still just find it pingy
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:50 pm

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7 and higher i have marked as green in my spreadsheet. 8-12 marked as yellow, 13 and 14 marked as red.
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:51 pm

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Why is it my wolf meta?
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:52 pm

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In post 904, Mulch wrote:Why is it my wolf meta?
I have a lot more to say about this stuff but I'm pretty sure he's just bullshitting here but we'll see what he has to say

I gotta work on an essay now. Gnight everyone
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:03 pm

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I think cabd's ginngie towntell is a bit better than his spiffeh towntell. That said, the best way I have to read ginngie is most likely to just dialogue with her later, which I'm in no particular rush to do.

I think my townset right now is aristophanes/cheetory/toranga/transcend/firebringer vaguely in order of confidence. I sort of want to add una to it for that one post (:s) but i will wait on cheetory's case before thinking more about that slot. Cabd I think needs more data to be readable.

Kagami is really underwhelming to me so far. I don't really remember their play that well from the one game I played with them a couple years back but it's not a slot that I can see significant townreads on.
Spiffeh is also underwhelming so far. His one interesting point is the one toward Kmd but I don't think it's an especially difficult point to make as scum. Him deciding to call me "town before the game started" 800 posts in is also a little bit sketchy; if he had that opinion, I see little reason for him not to have expounded it earlier before people were starting to townread me, similar to how I made a point to mention Aristophanes-town early so as to make a point. But different strokes etc perhaps.
Kmd is i think readable off his posting so far but I haven't gotten a foothold yet.

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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:04 pm

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To more or less paraphrase the previous post:

Transcend, I like your reads list; what are you reading Kagami off of?
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:09 pm

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Hey implosion, I can’t sleep

What’s been going on in ur life?

I see u have three people underwhelming.
These scumleans of u don’t have those yet?
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:14 pm

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In post 906, implosion wrote:I think cabd's ginngie towntell is a bit better than his spiffeh towntell. That said, the best way I have to read ginngie is most likely to just dialogue with her later, which I'm in no particular rush to do.
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:16 pm

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Hi ginngie I can’t sleep.

Tell me all about ur day

We could also talk about game too but sounds boring
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:27 pm

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When I say I'm in no particular rush to do it I mean that it can happen whenever it happens~

And my life's pretty good I think.

If I have scumleans atm they'd be vaguely chara and maybe mulch but not really, and also maybe cabd but not really. Basically all of those people I can actually easily see turning into strong reads either way based on upcoming events. But it's not really accurate to say that I'm scumreading anyone right now. I'm pretty reluctant these days to actually scumread anyone early d1 unless something sort of falls into place, which it does sometimes but not always. I mostly just accumulate townreads.
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:28 pm

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That said, I am going to sleep now, so further tomfoolery will have to wait until tomorrow.

Ginngie, if you want to dialogue tomorrow evening, I will be waiting.
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:45 pm

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@implosion

entrance mostly.

he's on the lower end of my trs, but i think his entrance wasn't really manufactured.
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:50 pm

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implosion first time i played with you (on this account) our reads in the large normal we played were nearly paralleled right away. looks like it happened again. glad there's someone on this site that has a similar thought process as me.

btw i know for a fact that you played with me a bit on my former alias here back in like 2011-2012.
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:58 pm

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also that game you linked bill wurtz is a terribl example of my scum game because i tried something different that game, aka being incredibly calculated the entire time and buddying the shit out of my partner

that's not ~rly~ my scum game

but still i'm town (:
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:04 pm

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In post 897, Transcend wrote:And now a word from Eddie Cane.

Note this will not be verbatim but still:

"Toranaga - this is from Eddie, directed to YOU. If you're town, get your head out of your ass. This is Mulch's wolf meta, he brags about how good he is as scum. He is going to nitpick and distract everything until his wagon dissolves or he's lynched. Mulch always causes shitstorms. This is clearly a competitive game, so Mulch is going to try his hardest. You know mulch, even from a purely theoretical standpoint whywould he pick town when he values scum so much higher? Disregarding the WIFOM before, he's just scum off play and I question your towniness if you continue to hard defend him the way you are.
Mulch - I have never said I wouldn't read you...? In Beneath the Mask I claimed to be able to sorta read you. "

tbh i actually disagree with his sentiments about tor being scum in any universe. dude's pree lock town.

and now for some reads from giga. they won't be explained, but you know..
if mulch is scum I'll take a long break from mafia
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:18 pm

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read his sig (it's hidden)

and tell me the same thing again
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:19 pm

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i get the feeling you haven't been mulch'd in your life
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:35 pm

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and EC makes a good point

mulch (along with probably the rest of the people in this tournament) will try about 5x harder in this set of games as opposed to a regular match.
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:05 pm

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In post 514, Kmd4390 wrote:
In post 238, UnaBombaH wrote:He said he has a scum-Discord with mulch. OBVIOUSLY.

I think you should try to keep up with my scumhunting Trans.. :igmeou:
Ugh. Stop being scummy if you are town. He was obviously playing along with mulch's Mason fakeclaim.
Ugh. Stop trying to force "scummyness" into my posts. I was VERY OBVIOUSLY JOKING. If you missed that, you didn't read most of those pages after all. :facepalm:
In post 552, Toranaga wrote:chara, una, mulch and ginngie are townreads. bit less on una. no other reads I can say with much confidence. even my scumreads are iffy right now.
I can agree with this post 95%. The 5% is lost for hesitation on my slot. :]
In post 561, Spiffeh wrote:I think I don't know how to read 2017 join dates
.......seems like an excuse? :o
In post 570, Kmd4390 wrote:Guys I'm confused. Mathdino disagrees with like all of my reads and I expected us to be on the same page coming in to this. He says my issues with unabomb can be chalked up to language issues with English (which I actually didn't know) and thinks mulch is scum. I really wanted to vote unabomb but I really don't know. Maybe mulch is ok on a commination of policy and hoping that people who have played with him know him better than I do.
I'm really disliking Kmd so far. "I really wanted to vote UnaBombaH, but.." - "maybe mulch is ok.."
If you are not scum!Egg, please at least listen to Mathdinos opinions on me. He has seen me at my worst, and still accurately townread me. :]
In post 573, Firebringer wrote:Radiantcowbells and Keychain: we love you unabombah
Not relevant to the game, but if they are serious, I'm VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT! :D I thought RC might actually DISlike me nowadays.. :?
In post 574, Spiffeh wrote:This is very "look at me trying to think critically about the game and consulting my teammates about it"

I don't think this is something a town player actually brings up in the thread
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Spiffeh! Not because "consulting teammates" is bad, but because the subject matter of that post is bad (IMO). Why say that your teammates disagree with you? What is the town-motivation behind it? Scum can do it to give themselves room to wiggle later with "I now trust my teammates".
In post 587, Spiffeh wrote:I'm bothered by how you're making a show about your inner struggle when I'd expect a town player to discuss the differing opinions with their teammates in their team PT rather than say "omg I'm confused and don't know what to do" in the game thread for everyone to see
OK, I'm now officially liking Spiffeh. :]
In post 608, Mulch wrote:I feel like I could take kagamis defense and use that for literally any person in any position in any game

That’s what’s wrong with it

Also it doesn’t even make sense for Trans he isn’t even giving reasons for his Reada
To anyone who has played with mulch - I'd say this should be obvious town!mulch.
In post 619, Patrick wrote:Vote: Kmd4390. Also leery of Unabombah. Cheetory reads very town to me, and to a lesser extent Mulch and Transend do as well. I like that Mulch hasn't just focussed on a tunnel of Transcend, as would be easy to do as scum, and is prodding and poking at other people as well.
I can live with people scumleaning me as long as I'm not the lynch - otherwise I like and agree with this post.
In post 783, implosion wrote:As much as I agree with the sentiment, this read feels a bit... conciliatory to me. It's something I can see from Cabd-scum who doesn't think he can get away with scumreading Mulch. Definitely not strong though.
Over 100 posts without anything to push a read on anyone (from my POV), and then we get this from Implosion. Feels like an honest attempt to read and sort Cabd.
In post 790, Ginngie wrote:Cabd town

Trans is not
Even if there isn't much of content here, I'm agreeing with both posts.

At this time, people seem to be "gathering around".
I feel like next few pages should show where the actual consensus of the ACTUAL TOWN wants to go. :]
In post 814, Cheetory6 wrote:Comfort zone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE: Una!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In post 817, implosion wrote:VOTE: Una
:?: :?:
In post 819, Cheetory6 wrote:It's okay I'm less confident about you being scummy now because of ~context~.

I might case Una tomorrow if I'm feeling really productive.
I'm feeling pretty muddled tonight.
I feel like these kind of posts are THE WORST, if not followed upon..
In post 821, Transcend wrote:Una is gonna be a mislynch dudes (:
I refuse to be lynched doggo. I have a backup-plan if it seems like shit is about to hit the fan! ;)
In post 836, Mulch wrote:I don't know, he seems really scummy to me. Like when he did that reaction test. That's super scummy

Or the fact Eddie Cane can't explain why he scumreads me.

Or the fact they are tunneling me despite the fact they both profess not to be able to read me
If I were to lay all my cards on the table already, I'd say this post holds more truth than most are willing to believe. :]
In post 866, Kmd4390 wrote:Unvote, Vote unabomb

My team might end up not liking this but he's my strongest scum read and no one has convinced me I'm wrong.

Tora, I'm townreading you but yeah that was bad logic on cabd.
This fits with his earlier hesitation. (and fulfills the purpose of that post)
VOTE: Kmd4390
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:14 pm

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I'm just fairly certain mulch is town. I'm not trusting any of their reads for now, but they are town.
Transcends list likely has all town in 1.-6.

Boon has a gutfeel on Ari being scum, and I can actually concur there. It hasn't been long since Ari was scum in a game (with Boon and Chill, both in my team), and I sort of feel this is similar to that.
My current top-candidates for a lynch today are Aristophanes and Kmd4390.
Cabd is maybe the one slot I'm MOST CONFLICTED ON, Ginngie a close second.
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:30 pm

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didn't kknow mulch's scumfuck ass was capable of having 11 town's heads up it
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:41 pm

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In post 922, Transcend wrote:didn't kknow mulch's scumfuck ass was capable of having 11 town's heads up it
I mean..he is such an obvious town.. :shifty:
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:48 pm

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FUCK OFF WITH THAT NOISE HES BLATANT SCUM

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