Patrick wrote:Odd question. The front post tells us all about the mafia invading the town, the mafia killing the dashing vollkan, and leaving their sig on his forehead. We're then told to look for the identities of those responsible [for vollkans death]. We're not told to look for anything else. As I said, I suppose it's possible the mod is deliberately misleading us, but that kind of opening surely implies we're just dealing with a mafia. In my experience anyway. The last mini normal I played in (Tapioca Mafia) was similar in that regard. You don't read it that way? As for pickem's death, that could have been caused by mafia, SK or vig couldn't it?
I know I'm not as experienced as you, but I don't like to speculate setups based on the flavor text, with the possible exception of kill method, which is sometimes helpful. It's a closed setup -- if Vollkan did throw in an SK, he wouldn't tell us, given that it's a closed setup. I wouldn't see that as a deliberate attempt to mislead.
I have another reason. Did you read the flavor text really closely? Notice that the calling card carved into our late beloved Mayor Vollkan's forehead said "Mafia has arrived" (that is: Mafia, singular),
The flavor text may or may not be indicative of the townie win condition -- I choose not to base my view of the game on it. Given that most mods of closed setups try to avoid giving anything away in flavor text, I have to doubt that Vollkan is intentionally giving away information here. I think it's unwise for you to be assuming that he is (even though it's quite possible you are right).
Sure, there are several explanations for Pickem's death, and I thought I was very careful to comment about that. While I said I think some are more likely than others, I have not ruled any of them out.
True, I just checked on the Wiki and it does say that a GF is sometimes UnNKable. (I didn't realize this because every GF I've read about is of the investigation-immune variety. In my experience, the investigation immune GF is much more likely than the NK immune one, but again, we already know this setup is atypical.)Patrick wrote:I agree that the mafia probably have some power, maybe a GF and/or roleblocker. The existance of a dead "mafia goon" already implies it (a mafia without abilities usually just has it's members listed as "mafia". I don't think GF is unlikely -- I could easily see there being an unightkillable GF.
As I said before, I have nothing to hide. As I said, there is some risk to any townie power roles left remaining, but the information we get could be very beneficial. I expect Oman and Xyl to lie, but what the remaining players say should be enlightening. I don't want to explain why, as the scum could benefit from that.Patrick wrote:Others should weigh in on the idea of a massclaim, but I'm starting to think it's a good idea.
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Oman - 1 (Incognito)
Matt_S- 1 (Oman)
Not voting - 3 (Erg0, Xylthixlm, Jitsu)
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline for D3: Tuesday April 22, 11:11AM GMT+10
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