Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over

[Elena Fisher]

Time for another game of me and matt tunneling each other calling each other scum I see!

[Elena Fisher]

189 and Zach's agreement in 330 are the only things I've said about my scumread on you, yes. When Zach said that I was like... yeah, actually, you said something that made way more sense as scum having fun.

I would like to hear more on why Zach thinks I'm playing on my tiptoes as I don't feel like I'm doing that at all observing the game state? Yes but tiptoes? No Zach should know I love playing as scum and I wouldn't be playing on my tip toes if that was the case.

This reaction was strange.

I'm not going to let a few words on the internet offended me calling me derptown. I know for a fact I'm a good player (At least I'd like to think so) and I'm not "derptown" do you feel I should've been offended?
The icebreaker question was needed because I wanted to see who I could talk reads on and people not just fall back on "oh my team said that" I can't really work with that at all whereas if people flesh out there reads I know I can poke and prod at them

I'm not focusing on you that much because there's 13 other players to pay attention to, and I feel better about my scumreads when I have everyone in mind at once which I don't right now. So I'd like to work through them to figure out if there's someone I should be pushing over you before I commit too hard to this. There's time.

If this is the case do you have any other sr's or really big tr's on mind?

I don't know why you'd be scumreading me apart from my vote on you and possibly a perceived lack of engagement with you.

You're mostly there on the reads list because I don't feel good putting you on the same tier with people above you I'd say I'm good calling Bins and LLD scum (although I might be biased on bins and I'm getting a friend to read bins as they can read her very easily) you seem confident to say the least on your sr on me so I found it strange you're just letting wagons like transcend/skirt or t-bone go by and you're not asking how I feel about them or trying to go "hey let's wagon Elena" it doesn't feel real or you're trying to game solve just having reads for the sake of having reads feel free to prove me wrong on this statement

When I was making my reads list I was looking over the players and I always ask "who would I lynch over ___" and this is the list I got so yes I guess I do sr LLD

Bins play around me is just outright weird she has me as "scared" and she's playing around my slot really badly and I feel now that I'm pushing on her she finally puts me as "scum" instead of "Oh Maria would take a scum role" it doesn't feel normal it's weird and scummy to me

Questions!:
How do you feel about the Skirt and T-bone wagons do you like them?
You talked on how people can pick there ali how much do you carry that as value in a read?
What is your fav type of pie?

[Elena Fisher]

I would like people who sr me just like key to try and case or say why and try to avoid things like awkward etc if you can. I like people trying to case me it's fun one of my favorite parts of mafia but it's hard to work with when it's stuff that is hard to defend with when it's simple disagreement
Why do people sr T-bone? I haven't seen anything that makes T-bone as obv scum as some are acting like he is Skirt skirt is also blatantly obv town imo I dislike both of these wagons

[Transcend]

ewll you're not allowed to tunnel me without it being a scumclaim since you have skirt on the top of your list

and i kinda thought u were~ok~ at some points

[Elena Fisher]

That's playing dirty...

[Transcend]

dirty dog

[Transcend]

This game is boring

[Transcend]

Didn't follow this super hard just sorta skimmed and I'm trusting what Eddie came up with to save his hide

[Bins]

you were scum why tf were you doing meta research

Why did his reaction put you off balance?

You were on the other scum team? Still scumhunt in two scum team games.

Idk, just didn’t ping me. I didn’t expect him to call out all my bottom reads as being bad.

[Mathdino]

I haven't decided yet whether I feel his tone is hollow or not. I'm leaning towards genuine, because Skirt is trying to do a lot of the same things, and he is way more hollow in his convictions. So, I don't know if that is comparison bias or what.

But like, you're feeling off about Dino. Does it bother you that Skirt is mimicking his approach in a lot of ways? Let's back up...do you see that at all?

sup bins analyse this quote for me pls
cuz this don't make no sense

[Bulbazak]

Was leaning town on smoc but need more

How do you have a town read on Smocaine?

davesaz and GL both think UCV is scum and I'm pretty sure NSG is gonna lean in that direction (she thinks my creature-based tell is bullshit)

I thought you said that Dave was only paying attention to his game?

[Bins]

what does transcend scum look like wanna toss me a link doggo

[Mathdino]

I was going over the rest of the game and arguing with GL/NSG about UCV. dave popped in and said he modded scum-UCV in Open 699 (I don't have a link), I asked him to look over UCV's ISO here since it's tiny. dave was like yyyyyep that's scummy, I have a few towngames where he actually participated with opinions and questions. Link 1 Link 2.

So yeah he read UCV only cuz I asked him to.

I'm guessing UCV's meta has shifted a lot over this past month. Will check NSG's link later on.

[Bins]

Not sure Village (NSG) in The Woods is good reference. UCV replaces in and he’s in a fucked spot.

[Mathdino]

My experience with scum-UCV is more recent but it's also from a micro. Linkkk

Seems like he's going full tryhard that game.

[Bins]

This game is boring

Scum pings from this slew of posts, tbh.

[Bins]

Holy shit doggo always opposite alignment of me
doggo is definitely scum


But seriously, I’m not getting TownVibes at all from this entrance.

[Mathdino]

bins i'm gonna need more reasoning than your gut to vote someone GL insists is town

[Bulbazak]

Unvote

I'm stepping away from this game for awhile. After I wrote my last post yesterday, I realized I was physically shaking. It took me until later that night to calm down, but I still don't know what set things off in the first place. Suffice to say, I'm easily triggered atm, and I don't know why. I promised I'd play nice in this game, but in my current state, I'm afraid of what I might say. I'm sorry for my reactions so far, as I've been less snarky and more of an a-hole. I was going out of town for the weekend anyway, so I'm taking the time to relax, avoid stress entirely, and reset. Hopefully I can come back Monday afternoon with a clear head and reevaluate my reads.

V/LA. Will Post again on Monday afternoon.

@Math: I prodded Mastina again. I should have something for you by the time I get back. If not, there will be blood.

[Bins]

Nah, it’s just pings for now.


Transcend entering the game calling it boring just seems like an act
Looks like they’re trying to look obvtown
But it might just be town trying to look obvtown

I’m so lost

[Mathdino]

For what it's worth Bulba, I didn't see any problem with your posts at all so far, but I appreciate the consideration/self-awareness. See you Monday. (altho I'm honestly not holding my breath on mastina; if anyone else on your team knows UCV/Creature [Ginngie??] that works too)

Bins I think you missed 734.

[Bins]

oh yeah i saw that but didn’t know what to make of it either

[Bins]

i get the same thing @bulba !!
sometimes mafia just makes me super anxious even when i’m not being scumread / when i’m town

[Bins]

@Dino - the first part made sense but I don’t get the second

[Mathdino]

Even if it's generally super unfair to call V/LA/activity/replacements scummy...

Are you getting the same townmindedness from Bulba's last post that I am?