♥ ♠ Open 711: Stack The Deck - Game Over ♣ ♦

[legoboyvdlp]

I mean, even if I wasn't a replace in, looking through Screen's ISO and seeing him get less coherent and making more mistakes is a pretty good indicator he's scum. I

Aye, agree with that alright. But it could be bad town too, which may be true, he is still my no 1 scum read though.

[legoboyvdlp]

Ok, Jay hasn't posted much readable except an excellent case on Creature which IMO looks like good bussing. So it's down to meta, and whether Creat-dragon is more lynchable based off meta than my scumread. I may flip a coin

[legoboyvdlp]

Out for the night. Buenas noches!

[Srceenplay]

I mean, even if I wasn't a replace in, looking through Screen's ISO and seeing him get less coherent and making more mistakes is a pretty good indicator he's scum. I

Aye, agree with that alright. But it could be bad town too, which may be true, he is still my no 1 scum read though.

Explain why you agree with the less and less coherent.

[Espeonage]

So having taken some time to mull over srceen. I realised that I was having reservations based mostly on him being obnoxious. But I just realised that is exactly what I used to do to try and get out of lynches years ago when I was still relatively new.

unvote, vote srceen

L-1 btw.

[the worst]

Newbie moment: I know talking about ongoing games is not on but uh
Is he in an ongoing game with Math?
Am I allowed to ask this?

[Mathdino]

Newbie moment: I know talking about ongoing games is not on but uh
Is he in an ongoing game with Math?
Am I allowed to ask this?

Here is the site's official policy on ongoing games. Please note the following:

Players may discuss activity in other games in a general sense, including counting how many games a player is alive in. However, this may not mention ANYTHING of substance.

This is the only exception to the rule. Please feel free to run things by me to check if it breaks the rules before posting.

[UnaBombaH]

Ech.
I'm willing to lynch either of Screen/Jay today.
I think both slots have a higher than 40% chance of flipping scum.
I might rate Screen at a lower chance of actually being scum, but then again, his flip ought to give us A LOT of context with who "avoided" or "bussed" or "chainsawed" or whatnot.

Intent to hammer within ~12hours if he is still on L-1 and no compelling arguments against are made.

[the worst]

@Math, iirc Srceen says he mixed you up briefly with something from another game in his read lists in this game. Without asking him to make ANY comment on his stance on you or any other player in any other game may I ask him simply to refer to the player list of the other game which resulted in the confusion?

I am so "fine line" on this question (his elaboration may technically cause an inference to another game even unintentionally) so if it's a grey area it is not worth pursuing.



(FTR I plan to give Srceen a more thorough read because I really like him at surface level but obviously at least some more experienced players who are Town are seeing something I'm not. If this post is knocked back under site rules please don't take it out of context.)

[Mathdino]

Let's stay on the safe side and avoid open discussion of other games. If you have any further questions regarding this, feel free to PM me.

[the worst]

Thanks Math, I had a similar feeling.



I'll proceed with my re-read without that most likely tomorrow

[Srceenplay]

Without breaking rules I can at least say I just finished a game with math.

[Srceenplay]

Ech.
I'm willing to lynch either of Screen/Jay today.
I think both slots have a higher than 40% chance of flipping scum.
I might rate Screen at a lower chance of actually being scum, but then again, his flip ought to give us A LOT of context with who "avoided" or "bussed" or "chainsawed" or whatnot.

Intent to hammer within ~12hours if he is still on L-1 and no compelling arguments against are made.

I would feel a lot better with you voting jay.

[Srceenplay]

Everyone chew on this. What have I done that is scumy? I understand most of my votes are because you not liking my play style.
But is not liking me a reason to vote me? I feel like I have generated content. Interaction and over reactions with other players. Basically bait for scum.
So again. What have I done that is scumy?
It’s a known fact with creature play style and meta that this is his scum game. I’m not even the only person saying it.
So why not vote with facts instead of feelings?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

You have annoyed me. Hence my vote. Your Filip will tell us a lot

[Srceenplay]

So there is one emotional Vote and ignoring the facts.

Everyone else be sure to chime in your stance please.

[Srceenplay]

You have annoyed me. Hence my vote. Your Filip will tell us a lot

Everyone always says that but do the really mean it?
Give an example.

[Almost50]

Yes, he was active and logged in and posted elsewhere between the time he was prodded and the time he was replaced. Like feel free to check this for yourself if you don't believe me.

GDI. How many times do I have to point out THIS IS TOTALLY NAI for Creature. I already explained (perhaps I didn't here???) that Creature was in a game I modded. He was a N1 Cop. He didn't submit an action. I prodded him a good 2 hours before deadline. HE PICKED THE PM AND STILL DIDN'T SUBMIT AN ACTION. I opened the thread, and there he was POSTING IN THREAD.

Tl;dr: TPR .. ONE SHOT .. SPECIFIC NIGHT .. ONLINE .. TOTALLY AWARE .. NO ACTION.

Now this certainly NOT a defense of Creature/Jay. This is telling you FACTS. If Jay doesn't Town it up, we lynch him or Vig him. But the fact Creature is ignoring this game is totally NAI (like you could ask him post-game and he will just say "I forgot about this game" or something along these lines).

[legoboyvdlp]

Someone put him at L-1 while I unvoted so... this is gonna look like me getting off the wagon so let me be absolutely clear that I was unvoting to prevent a hammer while I thought about Jay.

Well, anyway, I find you scummy for:

• playstyle
  
• I've played similar to you as scum
  
• saying you've found three scum by post 48 based off RVS and an intent not to vote
  
• gut / feel

I'm also, however, putting a vote on Jay right now. It looks like they are our two lynch choices today, and they are equally scummy to me. Particularly due to Creature being active elsewhere.
(just remember Srceen, if you weren't at -1 I'd be voting you )

pEdit (removed the vote): OK, that makes it different.
Though you did

not

explain that here. At least I never saw it.

Intent to hammer my other scumread, Srceenplay within 24 hours if nothing convinces me to do something else

[JaydragonKing]

... I'm just still shocked on how fact screen made a counter-wagon on me. Holy crap we almost got tied votes. I guess I (or the slot) deserved it a bit, but still...

[Srceenplay]

Why are you shocked if in your words it’s deserved?

[Srceenplay]

saying you've found three scum by post 48 based off RVS and an intent not to vote

Explain this one a little better.

[JaydragonKing]

Shocked that it all suddenly came out when you voted for me and just didn't end in my quicklynch day 2 or something. Getting it out of the way now was kind of unexpected to me, that's all.

[Srceenplay]

Again.
Talking about your quick lynch day 2 comes across that you know you are going to look bad after my lynch.

[JaydragonKing]

Because it's possible to look bad from everything I already have done?

Not everything revolves around you, good sir.