In post 1990, Something_Smart wrote:Because if he's scum he's presumably just claimed a cop guilty on a townie.
Pedit: none of those were hard stances.
doesn't that just prove chesskid's point that you haven't taken many hard stances or am i misreading the post in question
In post 2010, mastina wrote:Scum lurking would in fact be a valid strategy! Too bad the narrative I was employing it relies on the idea that I fucking was actually around during times that I can literally easily prove I was not.
I even fucking was posting on a different forum during that time (the site I host comics on has a forum and because I was beginning to host my new comic My Life, I made posts on the forum during that time); I prefer to never ever ever fucking link to that forum (it's my art life and like I said I like to keep my art life and my mafia life entirely separated from one another nowadays) but I can literally prove that I unambiguously was in fact fucking posting on that forum and easily show that it was me if need be to prove that I was not fucking around mafiascum. And this? Not even fucking against site rules; the only fucking thing stopping me is that I don't want to taint my art life by associating it with my mafia life.
can you stop telling us your life fucking story every time you post jesus goddamn christ
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In post 2075, xRECKONERx wrote:doesn't that just prove chesskid's point that you haven't taken many hard stances or am i misreading the post in question
I've taken a few hard stances. (Townreads on Creature, Cheeky and Hindu are the ones I'd consider hard.) But I think chesskid's point wasn't that I haven't taken hard stances but that he disagreed with the ones I have taken... but the things he cited were not hard stances.
In post 2079, Something_Smart wrote:I've taken a few hard stances. (Townreads on Creature, Cheeky and Hindu are the ones I'd consider hard.)
I'm happier with these. Must have missed them in the super small skim of your ISO I did when you asked me to explain your list positioning
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I'm a little surprised you missed the Hindu one given that I had a little back-and-forth about it, but the other two I haven't really talked much about.
In fact I think the only thing I said about Creature was my "players whose names start with C" comment but he's been obvtown pretty much since he started posting.
Yeah now that you mention it I remember your C comment. You'll forgive me I hope? Theres 84 pages in this game and 22 of them are me
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I'm sure I'll switch back to total ahole mode postgame if after mastina scumflip and I get NKed RC lives and doesn't get lynched
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if we're not doing Creature I'm fine with Reck having the hider and hiding behind RC or whoever he wants. If he's elected, I would strongly prefer that he not actually make it clear to the thread who he's hiding behind. If he dies then RC is likely getting lynched on D2 anyway but if RC is town then I don't want scum getting a guaranteed free double kill. Reck it's absolutely better to hide behind some low key townread of yours to clear them and deal with RC/chesskid drama through lynches and day play, if RC is town then declaring that you're hiding behind him is easy double kill for scum.
I see Smart and Creature as likely mastina voters based on expressed scumreads in their ISOs, which gets the wagon up to six
Likely not mastina voters based on townreads presented in thread: Katyusha, Anenien, BYF
Hindu I can't tell, he keeps saying chess/RECK town but also that he's not feeling mastina scum, wants to look elsewhere.
Hindu -
are you strictly opposed to mastina lynch today or will you compromise there? Take a hard yes/no stance on this please. Why aren't you sheeping your townreads onto the leading wagon?
So this means we need Primate or Errantparabola to show up and vote there, or some number of Katy/Anen/BYF/RC/myself to compromise on mastina. If we get to crunch time and no other lynch is possible then Mastina lynch is most likely outcome as it stands.
If Mastina is town I think there's one scum between chesskid/Srceenplay and there's probably a scum holding out to deadline vote it so the wagon doesn't grow too fast (Smart most likely pick here), and another scum either WKing or in the inactives
If Mastina is scum I doubt anyone is bussing her at the moment, but maybe a partner positioning to do so if necessary (Hindu, Smart again)
The fact that Primate/EP haven't been around is kinda fucking with the gamestate a bit currently regardless of their alignment, I don't think a mastina counterwagon has ever really felt possible this game outside of that brief Hindu flare-up which I would like to try to look at again when I have time to go back and find those votes
I'd like some more focused commentary and hard stances on whether people believe chess' "cop guilty", and why they are voting where they are as a result. It really feels like there's a lot of empty posts in the last 15 pages or so and people are just posting shit without game-advancing. That's not unique to RC/chesskid either.
Also I am gonna ask some people to see if I can get sitechat logs to back up Mathdino's point that Elli has acknowledged it's a strat to lie about the AI as scum. If he and chesskid are as tight as chesskid says, there's no reason to believe that chesskid wouldn't already have thought about this as well. Which is why I want more stances on whether people believe his claimed guilty.
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
GL I'm not pushing mastina and I explicitly said that I would vote chesskid if it were part of an appropriate plan so I don't see where you're getting me as a likely mastina voter from?
Also I just realized... I don't think it says anywhere that the hider has to be used tonight.
was basing it on this - are you saying you'd prefer to lynch chesskid over mastina?
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
can you elaborate on how you got here when very few people have expressed interest in RC scum even when assuming mastina scum
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In post 2089, GuiltyLion wrote:if we're not doing Creature I'm fine with Reck having the hider and hiding behind RC or whoever he wants. If he's elected, I would strongly prefer that he not actually make it clear to the thread who he's hiding behind. If he dies then RC is likely getting lynched on D2 anyway but if RC is town then I don't want scum getting a guaranteed free double kill. Reck it's absolutely better to hide behind some low key townread of yours to clear them and deal with RC/chesskid drama through lynches and day play, if RC is town then declaring that you're hiding behind him is easy double kill for scum.
When did reckoner ever express interest in hiding behind me except following a Mastina scumflip?
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
In post 2089, GuiltyLion wrote:I see Smart and Creature as likely mastina voters based on expressed scumreads in their ISOs, which gets the wagon up to six
Likely not mastina voters based on townreads presented in thread: Katyusha, Anenien, BYF
Hindu I can't tell, he keeps saying chess/RECK town but also that he's not feeling mastina scum, wants to look elsewhere.
Hindu - are you strictly opposed to mastina lynch today or will you compromise there? Take a hard yes/no stance on this please. Why aren't you sheeping your townreads onto the leading wagon?
So this means we need Primate or Errantparabola to show up and vote there, or some number of Katy/Anen/BYF/RC/myself to compromise on mastina. If we get to crunch time and no other lynch is possible then Mastina lynch is most likely outcome as it stands.
As opposed to where can you get votes, who do you actually want to get lynched today?
Also correct me if I'm wrong but you had Hindu in your scumpool, why is he the person you're trying to work out a compromise with?
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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