Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over

[Mathdino]

i would be willing to policy lynch transcend

hey transcend can you ask eddie for some good cases on the players in this game and then copy/paste them in thanks
disclaimer to elli this is sarcasm i am not advocating for breaking rules

and yeah i could lynch elena

someone find me scumbuddies for bins if bins is scum

[Elena Fisher]

Can see Math flipping scum now that I've talked it over with my team and made sure I'm not crazy (it's why I put him in the no comment pile I wasn't in the mood to get yelled at)

Math/LLD/Bins atm

[Mathdino]

Like she makes a ton of "I don't really care" or trying to act carefree posts. but her votes have been really really bad and when it comes to legit content it's just a bit of sheeping I haven't seen bins try to really gamesolve much at all.

urh.

i think this is just false and incorrect and i’m going to call you out on that.
i also don’t think anyone has said i’m lynch bait? maybe

i definitely remember people or people's teams (maybe mine) calling you lynchbait

FWIW i agree that you've actually posted substantially, just not in a way that elena likes (i have gotten in very similar arguments with elena and t-bone)

so like her take on you is wrong but you could still be scum lol

imma have KMD look over your ISO

Edit: lol'd, remind me who your team is

[Elena Fisher]

Why is Aeronaut getting a free pass btw I'm shocked they haven't been brought up at all. (Hell somewhat forgot they were here for the time being)
Pedit: Who is on my team isn't important at all.

[Almost50]

someone find me scumbuddies for bins if bins is scum

And how do you expect anyone to do that when the subject (Bins) hasn't even been wagoned properly?

[Bins]

if t-bone is scum that solidifies my elena scumread imo

also there are 3 scum
there’s definitely been at least 3 people neutral or against the tbone wagon
bad point

How does T-bone scum=me scum?
also it'd be 2 scum because 1 of the scum is t-bone in your theory and I don't think both scum would be outright against T-bone lynch unless he was a srsly strong mafia pr given nothing big is happening atm.
The game state has honestly been the same if you take away the pointless fighting.
Pedit: Please do call me out on it it'll be fun to hear your rebuttal

i think the odds are against scum and in this position taking the “tbone is town” is a weird stance to take
not sure if you insulting my reads makes me feel better about your slot

i’m starting to prefer elena to tbone tbh but she reminds me a lot of sakura hana / pirate mollie when they’re town and it could just be upsetting me

[Elena Fisher]

I'm not trying to upset you, you're the one who "called me out" as you say so I'm simply calling you back out.

You're being fake

[Mathdino]

you might recall me parking a vote on bins for like 5 pages and no one giving a shit despite bins not doing anything at the time

no one has any resistance to any wagons in this game, that's why we're all having trouble reading people

but on top of that no one really wants to wagon anyone

[Bins]

yes my "I sit on the fence so I can take credit for a lynch" reads that you've had all game.

i have quite a few townreads i’m not even considering lynching and three scumreads i don’t think this is me trying to take credit for lynchs

[Elena Fisher]

I'd happily wagon any of the 3 names I said but I clearly don't have the support for any of them.
You said no one has given you a reason for town t-bone
I counter that with no one gives me a reason for scum t-bone. Since you're so confident on that maybe you can be the one to give me said reason?
Pedit: Your reads to me feel like just taking the most popular stances and copying them. Although I guess that's somewhat weakish I'd pref to hear more or for you to flesh out your reads instead of that mini reads list you gave that'd prob help

[Mathdino]

elena i assume your math/LLD/bins team relies on me sheeping LLD

and then taking control of the game and bins sheeping all my reads?

[Almost50]

OK..

@Mathdino: Let's vote Bins to L-1 and get a claim. If that's a VT claim, we lynch her anyway. If it's a TPR, we either wagon someone else or lynch me for safety.

[Elena Fisher]

elena i assume your math/LLD/bins team relies on me sheeping LLD

and then taking control of the game and bins sheeping all my reads?

What makes you think that before I answer?

[Mathdino]

because not to be self-aggrandizing or anything

but i've literally been the one setting the "popular stances"

along with my team i guess but i've forced my team into playing like a 5p hydra so it carries more accuracy and weight

edit: the fuck i'm not just gonna VFR bins does this look like town of salem

edit2: you just accused bins of sheeping all the popular stances, see above

[Elena Fisher]

I sr all 3 of you for dif reasons I never try to look for teams day 1 you're my strongest sr's who I think most likely have scum in it.

[Bins]

OK..

@Mathdino: Let's vote Bins to L-1 and get a claim. If that's a VT claim, we lynch her anyway. If it's a TPR, we either wagon someone else or lynch me for safety.

I think I just lost half my brain cells. How is that even remotely objective?

If anything, A50 is probably town now - right?

[Mathdino]

i have no idea anymore

i've repeatedly asked for people to hit up their teammates and look through a few people in this game and give reasons

either no one has done this, or no one can read A50 out of all 70 people in this tournament

i'm waiting on a read from chara

[Almost50]

edit: the fuck i'm not just gonna VFR bins does this look like town of salem

But you've done that before!!!!! It's the best way to go now that the game got so messed up.

[Bins]

Elena is either super stubborn town or very obviously scum at this point. I await Keychain's reaction to these recent posts, a lot of them have put me off a lot.

My teammates aren't following (no response from EP in general, Marquis is sick, Slappy is kind of reading, implosion is busy boy). I think they trust me, at least.

p-edit - the fact you can't see that there are other ways to go about this is mind-boggling. This game really isn't that messed up. We need a wagon, I agree, but you've been vote parked on me for reasons I don't even know how to respond to? I still can't hash out what it is I've done that's putting you off.

[Almost50]

i have no idea anymore

i've repeatedly asked for people to hit up their teammates and look through a few people in this game and give reasons

Maybe that's your problem?? Why can't you just play the game as you played ANY other game in the past? No outside input. Just play it as if it were the only game you're playing and there were no spectators (and it's only for THIS day phase. Everyone can get better reads during the night and that includes said teammates).

[Bins]

Why is Aeronaut getting a free pass btw I'm shocked they haven't been brought up at all. (Hell somewhat forgot they were here for the time being)
Pedit: Who is on my team isn't important at all.

They have been brought up. But I also don't think scum!Aero just lurks.

[Elena Fisher]

i have no idea anymore

i've repeatedly asked for people to hit up their teammates and look through a few people in this game and give reasons

either no one has done this, or no one can read A50 out of all 70 people in this tournament

i'm waiting on a read from chara

Chara and I both tr A50
Pedit: I don't think I'm being stubborn at all? I've opened tried to get a feel on you bins and asked my teammates to make sure I'm not bias reading here I just feel confident.

[Almost50]

p-edit - the fact you can't see that there are other ways to go about this is mind-boggling. This game really isn't that messed up. We need a wagon, I agree, but you've been vote parked on me for reasons I don't even know how to respond to? I still can't hash out what it is I've done that's putting you off.

Question: You a VT? Just yes or no.

[Mathdino]

1. don't victimise yourself, i didn't want you to claim at all
unless you mean in other games
in which case you know full well voting people up for claims is very different in a closed normal than it is in an open breakable setup

2. the game isn't even messed up, it's literally just the active people complaining and not giving reasons for their shit
while a bunch of people are on breaks from the internet
with the vast majority of players not asking their team for the reads i've been requesting over and over because wow i'm not a perfect scumhunter

Edit: i am willing to sheep keychain and her team tbh if that's the closest to high-skill confirmed town we get

Edit2: A50, Team Mafia has been shown to be townsided through the use of teammates
i hashed this out with my team, we agreed that we would back each other up and play devil's advocate on shit
it's not that hard to hit up a teammate and be like "yo look through this ISO i can't read this shit"

and i always modify my playstyle/strategy to accommodate the type of game i'm in

Edit3: STOP IT A50
GUILTYLION IS LITERALLY SPAMMING ME ON DISCORD TELLING ME NOT TO VOTE UP BINS AND GET A CLAIM

[Elena Fisher]

Like I get my points are hard to..refute I just think your play around my slot and how you seemingly put me in "scum" just because I'm Maria is just so slimy I feel like you're trying to coast by while putting in dashes of your town meta that's the base of my read on you.
I plan on getting Dunn to read you like...any minute now and talk it over.
Pedit: A50 shut up