Team Mafia 2018: Inventions Mafia Day 4

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think that there's anyone who believes that.

[chesskid3]

You know you sound like everyone who thought Deep Blue was going to get crushed, or Watson couldn't play Jeopardy, or AlphaGo was going to get crushed, etc etc yes?

Are all the other players here agree that we should trust a programme instead of getting reads in the conventional way? If so, I'll step back.

Enough have confirmed that this particular program works.

I also really like the point S_S raised that resolving this ASAP is clearly beneficial to town, and I have, for almost 600 points now been on the exact same page, while RC bounces around reactively etcetcetc.

So I'm really not sure how it's a difficult decision voting mastina vs voting me but it doesn't much matter so

[RadiantCowbells]

You know you sound like everyone who thought Deep Blue was going to get crushed, or Watson couldn't play Jeopardy, or AlphaGo was going to get crushed, etc etc yes?

Are all the other players here agree that we should trust a programme instead of getting reads in the conventional way? If so, I'll step back.

Enough have confirmed that this particular program works.

I also really like the point S_S raised that resolving this ASAP is clearly beneficial to town, and I have, for almost 600 points now been on the exact same page, while RC bounces around reactively etcetcetc.

So I'm really not sure how it's a difficult decision voting mastina vs voting me but it doesn't much matter so

The intended meaning of this post is "RC is scum because he cared that his behaviour was upsetting people and I am town because I don't."

[chesskid3]

I mean...there's no such thing as coincidence. Your behavior clearly changed after #1669. You've been attributing it to Cheeky's #1668, but....

[chesskid3]

If getting lynched is what it takes to make Mastina -> RC happen, then I'll get lynched thumbsup.jpg

[Aneninen]

If there were very little time, eg. 1 day left, I'd join either wagon.
Why do you think Chesskid is the best possible lynch?

Because he's forcing the game to come down to a choice between those two possible lynches.
If there's enough support that backs lynching GL or Srceenplay and putting the hider on 1/2 of Chess/Mastina I would be fine with that as well.

In my very first game on MafiaScum I was doing the very same. (Although without any kind of "scumputer".) I got involved in a classical "you or me" fight, communicated everything badly and kept shouting "lynch him or lynch me! I know who the scums are and either lynch will confirm me! Blah, blah." Needless to say, both of us were town. Even if I solved the game at LyLo, I had so little town credit that I got lynched.
I too think Chesskid doesn't help town with this gameplay, but I don't think he's scum. Therefore, he's not a good lynch.

I'd rather lynch Srceenplay.
What do you think of Cheeky?

[chesskid3]

If there were very little time, eg. 1 day left, I'd join either wagon.
Why do you think Chesskid is the best possible lynch?

Because he's forcing the game to come down to a choice between those two possible lynches.
If there's enough support that backs lynching GL or Srceenplay and putting the hider on 1/2 of Chess/Mastina I would be fine with that as well.

In my very first game on MafiaScum I was doing the very same. (Although without any kind of "scumputer".) I got involved in a classical "you or me" fight, communicated everything badly and kept shouting "lynch him or lynch me! I know who the scums are and either lynch will confirm me! Blah, blah." Needless to say, both of us were town. Even if I solved the game at LyLo, I had so little town credit that I got lynched.
I too think Chesskid doesn't help town with this gameplay, but I don't think he's scum. Therefore, he's not a good lynch.

I'd rather lynch Srceenplay.
What do you think of Cheeky?

Joined: August 09, 2010

Please have more faith.

[Aneninen]

Hint:

No, I really shouldn't because every post TODAY not spent deciding whether we are lynching
Chesskid -> Mastina -> RC
or Mastina -> RC
is a post that creates chaos and gives chances for people to lose their grip on the guilty and the plan

So be it VOTE: Chesskid

Isn't it strange how eagerly Cheeky voted for Chesskid in the middle of a fight with me (whom she, as far as I know, scumreads)?

[chesskid3]

Another point if I would is usually when a game is dominated by an incredibly loud TvT fight, there's a (scum) contingent happy to stand on the sidelines and whine "BUT IT MIGHT BE TvT" while making no effort to actually stop things.

You'll notice the near complete absence of that in this game. This is TvS.

[chesskid3]

Hint:

No, I really shouldn't because every post TODAY not spent deciding whether we are lynching
Chesskid -> Mastina -> RC
or Mastina -> RC
is a post that creates chaos and gives chances for people to lose their grip on the guilty and the plan

So be it VOTE: Chesskid

Isn't it strange how eagerly Cheeky voted for Chesskid in the middle of a fight with me (whom she, as far as I know, scumreads)?

The same thing I said to Cheeky about you applies to you about Cheeky. There's 1.5 scum in Mastina + RC, so while you might think you have something your odds are bad.

[Aneninen]

Joined: August 09, 2010
Please have more faith.

As if I hadn't f-cked things up later. For example RC could tell you stories.
And I guess I'll f-ck things up in the future, too.
That means nothing.

[chesskid3]

There's a lot of things you're just turning a blind eye to because you want to be the authority on how to play mafia.

[RadiantCowbells]

What do you think of Cheeky?

Cheeky is town I am 100% sure. I believe that you and Kat are town as well but I need more time and space on that which I don't have.

Isn't it strange how eagerly Cheeky voted for Chesskid in the middle of a fight with me (whom she, as far as I know, scumreads)?

No, it's not, given that we've been discussing for a while now how we need to do something about him.

There's a lot of things you're just turning a blind eye to because you want to be the authority on how to play mafia.

You've turned a blind eye to literally the entire game because you want to be the authority on how to play mafia.
In a situation where Mastina!scum has no way out, no less.

[chesskid3]

In a situation where Mastina!scum has no way out, no less.

All I'm doing is making sure of that. I'm actually engaging with everyone in the game so no blind eyes here

[chesskid3]

Well, that, and making sure that RC!scum doesn't have a way out either after devoting 65 pages to the SAVE MASTINA crusade

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm willing to entertain that you're town, I'm even willing to entertain that you're right. But I'm not lynching Mastina without a result on her.

Well, that, and making sure that RC!scum doesn't have a way out either after devoting 65 pages to the SAVE MASTINA crusade

[Something_Smart]

I'll vote chesskid as soon as we have the hider figured out.

If he flips town, I'm following whatever plan he lays out.

[Srceenplay]

If there were very little time, eg. 1 day left, I'd join either wagon.
Why do you think Chesskid is the best possible lynch?

Because he's forcing the game to come down to a choice between those two possible lynches.
If there's enough support that backs lynching GL or Srceenplay and putting the hider on 1/2 of Chess/Mastina I would be fine with that as well.

In my very first game on MafiaScum I was doing the very same. (Although without any kind of "scumputer".) I got involved in a classical "you or me" fight, communicated everything badly and kept shouting "lynch him or lynch me! I know who the scums are and either lynch will confirm me! Blah, blah." Needless to say, both of us were town. Even if I solved the game at LyLo, I had so little town credit that I got lynched.
I too think Chesskid doesn't help town with this gameplay, but I don't think he's scum. Therefore, he's not a good lynch.

I'd rather lynch Srceenplay.
What do you think of Cheeky?

I would rather puts some finality to this 3 way.
It can’t continue to keep going unresolved when it has taken up so much time of the day.
We definitely don’t need it continuing on into tomorrow.

[Aneninen]

The same thing I said to Cheeky about you applies to you about Cheeky. There's 1.5 scum in Mastina + RC, so while you might think you have something your odds are bad.

Show me using Mastina's

posts

why she's scum.
If I drew Tarot for the game and I said, the scum are Yoshi, Reckoner and Errant, would you believe me? I've been into Tarot spreads for more than 22 years! Ask Fferyllt, we had a talk about it!

There's a lot of things you're just turning a blind eye to because you want to be the authority on how to play mafia.

Me? Authority?

Spoiler:

For this

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

I had to sit down.

When did I say that?
I'm back after 1,5 years and I don't even think I'm a particularly good player!

[chesskid3]

I think I'm onto something here

Does anyone remember Elli's fucking dismantling of Mulch for using the phrase 'ruin game' primarily as scum?



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RadiantCowbells, Mafia Goon, Survived and Won on Day 4.


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RadiantCowbells - miRNA21, Mafia Track-Immune Goon - lynched Day 5

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RadiantCowbells (replaces Fairfax replaces TharSheBlows1), Mafia Goon, survives and wins

But I am not willing to ruin the game for everyone to push a lynch like Chesskid is.

[chesskid3]

I found one where he used it as town but it wasn't specifically about ruining a GAME

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RadiantCowbells (Town Citizen), died N3

[Aneninen]

Yeah.
And if you can find a pigeon in my ISO, that means I'm either town or not. Trust me, it works!

[chesskid3]

Here's ruining a PLAN, but not a game, also town.

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This is money boys

[Something_Smart]

In my first game with RC I referred to something as "pigeon poop". He asked if I was "Adenine" and I had no clue what he was talking about

[Aneninen]

That made my day, Something_Smart