Going to say this right now: I'm busy. I'm read up to and including page 14. I'd like to thank everyone for not making this a toxic wasteland like other games have turned out to be. Tomorrow and Friday I will re-double my efforts on this.
This isn't the lycanfire reads collectors edition, it isn't calling a team and running with it. I'm quite vocal on never having nullreads, so push comes to shove I sort people into two categories and slap disclaimer bumper stickers all over them if i think I'm driving too nice of a car into the neighbourhood. The point is to drive the car over the finish line, not to look good doing it.
Town
Shea - asks the questions that popped into my head as I was reading, and even one i would have otherwise missed (
#250) sorting of LQ seems genuine (or at least this is not s/s). i feel that by being easily baited into discussing reck's feelings he had first feelings of doubts, and began pausing each time he interacted with a scumread. 265 isn't exactly a 'push', it's very awkwardly worded. (for someone that said "okay we have our first" shea isn't exactly lowering the boom with "if you're town you're not going a good job". particularly in
270 I feel like Shea is so focused on Reck's read that he is unable to see what is in front of him. In
293 he does the exact same thing, in fact the strange wording with Gamma comes back but is directed towards LQ here at the end. My read on Shea is that he is too easily baited into questioning Reck's read that he himself is not putting in the work in the area Reck pointed him in. The entirety of @Drunkards should listen to him talk about the game rather than the other way around.
ActionDan - He offers a fair roast of Gamma and takes what is oddly a hard position for other people to come to? Motives here seem well intentioned. I feel like his take on 254 is fair - at first it reads like Shea whiteknights Dunnstral, however it's pretty well established that Gamma has nothing to go on, so it's a worthwhile nudge by Shea. I differ on his opinion on
265. Shea's word choice changes quite rapidly from "got our first" to "not doing a good job [if town]" I've reconciled it in my own way. I don't think it breaks from Dan's comment "honest" but it's something that should have been questioned or internalized? Premature.
NSG - I feel like Llamarble's tell wasn't something concrete- but my opinion on Marquis is that his attempts at early game dejection (awww shucks) were noise. Nothing that helped us in any way. Maybe unfair-if showing emotion is town, is perceived attempts at humanizing yourself to others always scum? Is failing to do so also scum? I don't have a cookie cutter for every read- I collect the circumstances and walk the path the people I read walk in. When the reality I experience is disjointed from the one being presented to me I feel dysphoric, I want to correct it, and to make it "right". I feel like pushing Marquis is absolutely fair, but it wasn't an end all read on the slot.
scum
Tchill - i thought i was being quite inflammatory by saying his reads on llamarable and sauce should have been flipped, and that he made some attempt to read but fell short and decided to phone it in rather than come up with something real. i feel like scum tchill immediately discredits me here, but he did not, so i don't know what to make of that. he follows up on my push on CES in
246 by saying what amounts to "there is Y, and as a result maybe X (but I'm going to yell over that possibility and discount it)". i don't see how that's fair.
LQ - I feel like he dragged his heels in defense of himself by focusing so much on Reck's read. If Shea were to pop into the thread and say "by powers of his supreme deductive ability Reck says LQ is scum, also I am on the toilet right now" and never talks about LQ again, doesn't LQ have a good pillow to throw himself on rather than the sword he leaps on with
252? The "I am innocent" vibe I get out of this does nothing to convince me of it. I have
267 noted down as being entirely mechanical. It's back to the baiting of Reck's read I spoke of above in combination with going down this route anyway. Like LQ said later on, eventually a conversation just stops, but why did this one start?! To prove doubt? It looks like he succeeded, because Shea never once stops doubting himself to call LQ out on baiting him into shit that doesn't matter. LQ makes an effortpost later on, but I feel like the basic thesis of
308 is a
complete
break from his earlier "
WIFOM bomb" comment.
Gamma - Bad vote aside, it reads like a machine shit out
253. A HUMAN BEING would
show dejection
of being so obviously wrong- they would feel silly, frustrated, or otherwise upset, and from that alone we could observe that
all actions
that came from that premise were as so. Instead Gamma sits there and writes "
, and
." Compare this to Shea who has real moments of pausing and doubt, real flaws that he doesn't admit and may not even be conscious of. The "bus vote" thing being more likely over Dunnstral choosing a name and going out for lunch feels pretty nefarious in motive. LQ points this out, and I don't feel like they're a viable team despite trying to outscum one another on the same page. There's no proverbial lion in the room that necessitates outrunning your fat friend here. incidental.
Llamarble - He may be Llamarble, but I'm not sure if he is righteous...
Postie - I disagree in the entirety of
323. Failing to come to good conclusions makes me think Postie is acting in bad faith. Overall I feel confident in reading Postie.
Sauce - he's like one of those sirens corner stores use to stop children from loitering except I'm too old to hear this shit.
jumbled mess because while I had an idea of my overall opinion of everyone their position and the points I was trying to make were laced up as i jumped between each ascending note
@NSG
Why the question of "who are my townreads?" in particular?
@LQ
What's up with posts
92 and
308?
