Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over

[T-Bone]

In the context of "I am going to vote my biggest critic based on nothing and push him hard" scum. Let's say that Math is lying right this second (although I think he may be truthful) and he knew there wasn't an actual case in that post, but charged full steam ahead anyway. Do you get what I was getting at?

[Mathdino]

NSG thinks Bins and Bulba are still good options (says Bins reacted badly) and thinks I jumped the gun on T-Bone. GL is still catching up. Thus far I've heard very few good arguments to even townlean T-Bone while I have heard good arguments for Binstown, Bulbatown, CDBtown, and A50town.

Reposting this.

Suddenly it makes sense that NSG thought I jumped the gun
I was like no I didn't, this is a great wagon

The problem for me then (and honestly a huge problem now because 1 scumread is not enough) was that I'd seen great arguments for like everyone else being town, so logically, I should just start wagoning the non-townreads at the soonest opportunity to sort them. Bravado comes from how hard I invest in PoE. And from trying to get a game going instead of flailing.

Reading through my own ISO (cuz hell if I remember what I was thinking at 3 AM) I don't think I was actually outright scumreading you until 526 where I doubled down on the basis that GuiltyLion's reads (through page 14) are correct.

Since then even he's waffled, and seeing that skirt's case existed as much as the Bowling Green Massacre did, that explains a lot about my headspace these last few pages being like "wow this t-bone lynch idea is worse than I thought".

Sorry for being shit tbh.

I'll look over skirt's posts for the conviction stuff you were talking about. Fair warning: I'm going to trust KMD more on this primarily because of experience together.

I disagree with A50 being scum right now and I'm interested in a case on that if you have one.

[Mathdino]

In the context of "I am going to vote my biggest critic based on nothing and push him hard" scum. Let's say that Math is lying right this second (although I think he may be truthful) and he knew there wasn't an actual case in that post, but charged full steam ahead anyway. Do you get what I was getting at?

I hadn't read this post yet, but yeah there's actual evidence in my ISO that my teammates saw my mistake and I completely ignored them. I can go find the chat records and paraphrase them if you want but I'm not sure that would be solid evidence in your mind.

[T-Bone]

I don't think you are lying, you don't have to convince me. I don't think it changes much, because I can see you doing it as either alignment.

I feel like you'd be more likely to make excuses as scum to be honest, so bonus points for you.

[T-Bone]

If anything, pointing this out was mostly for town!Math's benefit, because I bet a lot of what I said since then makes a little more sense, no?

[UC Voyager]

ehh. im not really liking tbone.

I see a lot of math meta claims from people on my team and in game, and this does remind me of Chill mafia. plus overall, his intentions are townie as fuck

[UC Voyager]

I don't think you are lying, you don't have to convince me. I don't think it changes much, because I can see you doing it as either alignment.

I feel like you'd be more likely to make excuses as scum to be honest, so bonus points for you.

ehhhh. your saying that math doing townie stuff is scum acting. i disagree personally

[T-Bone]

What?

Do you not understand the chain of events here?

Math starts pushing me based upon a nonexistent case that Skirt made, and I recognize this. Do you not understand why I might think "why would Math claim there was a case on me made by Skirt when there wasn't?" and conclude "well, he's probably doing it as an excuse to vote me".

What part of that thought process doesn't track for you?

[Mathdino]

Lol yeah it does make things make a LOT more sense.

I'm not in any position to get an accurate read on you now I think. A lot of me says town (especially for how you've been holding your cards on me close to your chest instead of pouncing) but GL's intense scumread was from everything before that fiasco.

The problem is I have all sorts of weird biases based on how people push me and there've been times where I've gotten pocketed by the people scumreading me. I don't know.

@UCV:

Are you scumreading T-Bone because he scumreads me? Do you and your team have any scumreads not based on that kind of thing?

[T-Bone]

If people scumread me, that's fine. But I'm certainly gonna break it down and decide for myself whether that is a legit scumread or made up, and then act accordingly. I don't care if players scumread me, and I'm not in the business of getting them to stop.

I wasn't pointing this out to refute your scumread on me remember? I was pointing this out to Elena to see if she also saw it.

[Mathdino]

Wait a second

Bins why are you scumreading T-Bone then?

[UC Voyager]

What?

Do you not understand the chain of events here?

Math starts pushing me based upon a nonexistent case that Skirt made, and I recognize this. Do you not understand why I might think "why would Math claim there was a case on me made by Skirt when there wasn't?" and conclude "well, he's probably doing it as an excuse to vote me".

What part of that thought process doesn't track for you?

have you considering the term. misreading the thread.

[UC Voyager]

Lol yeah it does make things make a LOT more sense.

I'm not in any position to get an accurate read on you now I think. A lot of me says town (especially for how you've been holding your cards on me close to your chest instead of pouncing) but GL's intense scumread was from everything before that fiasco.

The problem is I have all sorts of weird biases based on how people push me and there've been times where I've gotten pocketed by the people scumreading me. I don't know.

@UCV:

Are you scumreading T-Bone because he scumreads me? Do you and your team have any scumreads not based on that kind of thing?

no. i find his reasoning scummy and he doesn't show town intentions that much N such

[Mathdino]

You're gonna have to re-explain that. His reasoning was literally correct. I jumped on a T-Bone wagon because I was looking for a place to put a vote and retroactively made-up a case that skirt wrote. He assumed I made it all up to push him (which you could argue is subconsciously accurate).

What other reasoning do you see as scummy outside of "he's scumreading town"?

[UC Voyager]

You're gonna have to re-explain that. His reasoning was literally correct. I jumped on a T-Bone wagon because I was looking for a place to put a vote and retroactively made-up a case that skirt wrote. He assumed I made it all up to push him (which you could argue is subconsciously accurate).

What other reasoning do you see as scummy outside of "he's scumreading town"?

things like


"i could see that from either allignment" then following it with 'it being more likely to be from scum'.

like. it is just bad.

like me trying to be good at mafia

Spoiler:

just to make sure im following

Do not use invisible or in some way encrypted fonts or typing.

, the text says "like me trying to be good at mafia"

moving on, every thing they say seems like it just doesn't seem town hunt/scum hunt. I know im not the one to talk about that, but it isn't like i have been posting a lot though they have been posting a lot, but none of it really seems like hunting

[T-Bone]

You're misreading then. Because I said I would have expected scum in his position to make excuses once being caught...which he didn't do.

The part about either alignment is the part where Math fabricates a reason to vote...which he did...because that particular thing isn't alignment telling based on where the gamestate is.

But in those two sentences I was referring to two separate instances. One happened 20 pages ago, one happened 20 minutes ago.

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So tbone

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The math attention is bad

No just fucking no

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So does anyone strongly agree with me at all

[T-Bone]

See location

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Nice

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Talk 2 doggo plez

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He has happiez not madz

[Dunkerdoodles]

v/la this weekend
see yall monday

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But me