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[Transcend]

Yes

[Chara]

also, i don't have a read there. i don't remember him doing anything except things i've agreed with in a way i don't agree with. but if you have a good reason he's town and i can put him aside, i'm interested.

[Chara]

His demeanor and approach towards things albeit very wrong all appear genuine.

ok, this tracks. i agree to a point but i'm not confident.

[Transcend]

Keep the focus on Gamma.

[Chara]

also, i don't have a read there. i don't remember him doing anything except things i've agreed with in a way i don't agree with. but if you have a good reason he's town and i can put him aside, i'm interested.

things i have not agreed with in a way i don't agree with. it should say

[Srceenplay]

Official Vote Count

Gamma Emerald

(4): havingfitz, Mulch, Chara, Transcend

havingfitz

(2): Smocaine, Fro99er

Creature

(2): Antihero, Gamma Emerald

Transcend

(1): James Brafin

Flavor Leaf

(1): TwoInAMillion

TwoInAMillion

(1): Flavor Leaf

Not Voting

(2): Hawk, Creature

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-01-31 20:00:00)

[havingfitz]

Another closer look -

Spoiler: Gamma ISO:

7...RVS vote on Yankee.
8 fluff posts.
53...wants to know why Yankee voted Smocaine (why?)
74...unvotes because L-2. Not because no suspicion towards Yankee. Decent unvote that could be for town cred.
89...questions Hawk for calling a Smoc post a townslip. good I guess
161...angry at Smoc for misreading Flavor?
181...good post. NAI but good.
182...though townreading him, questions Smoc scum reading him.
182...joins Hawk on the Yankee wagon (for piss poor reasoning) while at the same time supporting scum!Hawk theory. (So why join Hawk on Yankee?)...which Transcend calls him on.
302...votes TIAM for being "posturey".
350...explains his reads to Hawk. Yankee WAS scummier....but now more confident in scum!TIAM. Calls Hawk town.
380...getting a little defensive of James posts towards Smoc. Votes James. <insert chainsaw noise>
A defensive poorly explained exchange with the Fro99er slot.
400...Who cares?
413...the fourth post in a row where he discusses/defends his townread on Smoc.
429...questions why the Fro99er slot would be voted for lying. I would say it depends on the lie. To blanket statement this opinion seems bad.
498...says Hawk has been too erratic to be scum.
503...corrects Transcend on something he (Transcend) said regarding Hawk.
514...Answers Mulch question posed to the Fro99er slot.

Gamma, who are you referring to when you say "he made a mistake?" The Fro99er slot or Transcend?

527...says he can figure out Creature in a few more irl days.
613...says Yankee failed at trying to be obvtown.
621...weak shade on TIAM.
654...comes to the defense of Flavor a bit.
667...while maintaining the lone vote on James, says he would vote Yankee right now if he wasn't trying to sort Creature. Creature who has no votes at this point.
842...questions TIAM on having Hawk as suspect in his reads list. Consistent.
844...townreading Locke (off content...not replace out).
846...seems to be coming to the defense of Flavor.
847...defends Flavor some more. Says Antihero is different than he was in Walking Dead S2E2.

What alignment was Antihero in that game?

851...tells Transcend he would support Yankee or James wagons. Votes Yankee in his next post.
867...gives his reads.
886...says he might hold off worrying about TIAM until D3. Good to know you will both still be here.
923...responds to my catch up asking me to clarify my read on Hawk. Mentions I tend not to hardbus. No question as to why I am voting him (Gamma).
927...FOSs his null read Mulch for saying "So now what"...lol.
946...asking Mulch to explain his Gamma vote calling it an overreaction.
1030...unFOSs Mulch and asks Transcend why he voted him (Gamma) instead of Creature or James (why not me who you are currently voting and who Transcend was voting most recently?)
1047...asks the Fro99er slot why he voted him (Gamma).
1049...says I should be lynched for my reason on voting him...."not having cared for his posting all game". This despite not asking me to clarify my reason for voting him and not stating the same sentiments towards Mulch, Transcend and the Fro99er slot.
1053...decent response to my questions.

Summary - On closer review I do not dislike Gamma's posting as much as I did after my initial browse through the game. I'm second guessing my initial gut scum read on him. bleh.

Says he suspects the Yankee slot "somewhat" in 192 and re-votes Yankee. Not sure he has expressed any other suspicions towards the Yankee slot he is "somewhat" suspicious of but has maintained a vote there most of D1.

So Gamma...are your suspicions toward Yankee (me) still centered around his unexplained vote on Smoc on page 2?

UNVOTE:

Still leery of Gamma but want to look closer at Smoc. Also...Creature would be a good vote as well IMO. His contribution this game feels off to me and, while not overposting anywhere afaict, he is at least posting in other areas of MS. And what he has contribute when he has posted here has been pretty useless. I do not recall him being totally useless as town.

[havingfitz]

like i'm not really sure why you wanted my feedback on

12 NAI creature posts

Ok this might be town creature

I lean towned his early posts

before he went absent.

@Transcend....what about Creature's early posts were you townreading?

[James Brafin]

JAMES PLS

SORRY!
Catching up now, Thursdays as a rule are super busy for me and I'm not used to games moving this fast.

[James Brafin]

On my first skim, these stand out to me:
Yank's replacement, Flitz, is coming off townie to me just trhough activity and attempt to scumhunt. So it alleviates my concern on that slot some.
Transcend is obviously shitposting. A lot, which makes me even more sure he's scum. He's contributed nothing to town this game, something I've said repeatedly, and keeps deathtunneling me, trying to get me lynched. Not to mention an obvious lack of consistency. If he's not scum, I will gladly take the fall day two, because it means I'm so obviously an idiot that I can't even play mafia.
Creature does seem like he's posting at a bare minimum. I would be cool with a lynch possibly at this point.
While Gamma seems scummy on first read, I think his stuff is genuine and townie.
2in10 seems to only be half-engaging with Transcend, and finds him scummy but doesn't vote him. Possible scum buddies? I still feel like something in his play is pining me, but I have a feeling some ISOs are in order to figure it out.
Hawk suddenly seems more suspect because of his "lack of interest." I'm not buying that, I think he might be lurking. A confirmed miller should, in my opinion, be helping look for scum.
Frogger is now on my scummy list, because I'm starting to think he faked that Neo Cop claim. (Same thing for those who don't know, a vanilla cop == Neapolitan, just different names for the same role. VT and basic scum turn up as vanilla, and others turn up as not vanilla.)
Be back in a bit for more. I'm going to have to read this thing a few times to get a feel for stuff.

[Chara]

Transcend is obviously shitposting. A lot, which makes me even more sure he's scum. He's contributed nothing to town this game, something I've said repeatedly, and keeps deathtunneling me, trying to get me lynched.

he's trying to lynch Gamma now.
shitposting is NAI.
you're looking at this too simply, i think. if you're town, which i lean towards.

[Chara]

Frogger is now on my scummy list, because I'm starting to think he faked that Neo Cop claim. (Same thing for those who don't know, a vanilla cop == Neapolitan, just different names for the same role. VT and basic scum turn up as vanilla, and others turn up as not vanilla.)

they are not the same role. you described Vanilla Cop.
Neapolitan specifically looks for vanilla townies. it gets a negative on PRs and scum.

[Chara]

like i'm not really sure why you wanted my feedback on

12 NAI creature posts

Ok this might be town creature

I lean towned his early posts

before he went absent.

@Transcend....what about Creature's early posts were you townreading?

[Creature]

I need to find an appropriate image for me rn.

[Creature]

Hey, I didn't notice that birthday cake.

[Creature]

I wasn't replaced, right?

[Chara]

you were not.
happy scumday! :>

[Creature]

I need to find an appropriate image for me rn.

Meh, just imagine something really locked trying to break free.

[Creature]

Were there any serious claims?

[Gamma Emerald]

no, I want to get rid of the known wolf asap
also was there ameta shift in my absence/s?

Fuck you

My vote doesn't shift until you don't act like a complete fucking bitch as you are right now.

Yeah no last time I checked not conforming to the leading wagon was a towny thing, wtf changed? fyi I don't care about beng not townread for this action, it's being scumread for it which is pissing me off

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma respond to me or i will ensure you die

Apologies, I don't have the ability to competely devote my time to this

[TwoInAMillion]

It seems like he's looking for attention, which is anti-town.

who cares?
i don't care what Transcend does or whether it's anti-town. i care if it's town or scum. why is getting attention something scum want to do? this should be null.

Because town try to cooperate with other town to find scum rather than bring attention on themselves. People that act anti-town tend to be scum, or at least hurting their team.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma you're getting meme tunneled if u don't respond to me in 15 minutes

It is 752on my phone

U have until 1007

Yeah go fuck yourself, it was nighttime for me then

[Gamma Emerald]

Got some questions to ask everyone

1) How excited are you for this game?
2) Where did you hear about this site/where did you come from?
3) If you had to bet the game on one player's alignment who would it be? Basically, who can you read best?
4) what aspects of your play do you seek to improve?
5) What is your general scumhunting mindset?

1. Very because gamma is scum and I'm gonna own him (again)
2. From gamma emerald.
3. That would be gamma emerald
4. To read players better other than gamma emerald
5. If gamma is obvscum that cheeses out of a duel, then lynch him. Otherwise lynch whoever else.

Real fucking funny you self-absorbed dickweed, not everyone's life revolves around your wishes

[Gamma Emerald]

let's consider the scenarios

A.

creature!town

gamma is 100% scum for taking a potshot at someone very vulnerable over the person he's in a competing wagon with.

B.

creature!scum

tough to make the associative but i still think that gamma could be sum ehre beause he's cheesing out the duel to lynch his buddy and gain towncred

now someone give me a scenario where gamma can be town

i've given him several chances to explain his flip

he hasn't

his read on fitzslot clearly hasn't hanged

otherwise he would've specified such, thus warranting the flip.

It's not that the read changed, it's that I'm done with the day, and want to get the frozen wolf. Why are you so opposed to this pal? You Creature's scum buddy?