Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Ether]

Day 1, Votecount 46

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3 Mulch (Kagami, implosion, Spiffeh)
2 Kagami (Firebringer, Mulch)
2 Spiffeh (Ginngie, Patrick)
1 Cabd (Toranaga)
1 Eddie Cane (Kmd4390)
1 Kmd4390 (UnaBombaH)

5 Unvote (Aristophanes, Cabd, Chara, Cheetory6, Eddie Cane)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-05 00:00:00), on Sunday, February 4 at 11:59 pm EST.

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[Mulch]

Stop spamming the thread and we will do that

That's my natural element. I outpost people on MU where that's the high posting king

With it comes good reads and (lately) an enjoyable person to play with

I just get anxious when people scumread me

[Mulch]

VOTE: Spiffeh

[Firebringer]

I thought we were amigos.... eddie

[Eddie Cane]

mon compadre ce amigo

[Spiffeh]

Also I think it's scummy that you think that I am "deliberately going after people that scum read you"

when you never mentioned this before

Maybe I only noticed when it actually became a pattern????

You never mentioned me before so does that completely invalidate your scum read on me?

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh I think looks worse, not so much for interaction with Gingie, which I thought was plausible as either alignment, but for his last post. Splitting the hairs of push v naked vote doesn't seem good to me.

Calling it a push when one doesn't exist looks like he doesn't really care if he's misrepresenting me as long as he can further discredit someone voting against him.

Like sure maybe he's just bad at mafia and thinks everyone that dares to mention him as a lynch target is scum but in a game where I'm struggling to form concrete scum reads maybe the badness is just scumminess?

[Kmd4390]

I feel like I've seen spiff struggle to get reads as town before. I'm gonna try to find it

[Spiffeh]

That's incorrect I'm scumreading 2/4 people that vote me

I mean you scum read Transcend (Eddie's predecessor) HARD until he broke the rules by proving he was being genuine so not much you can do about that one

And implosion is just obviously town

[Eddie Cane]

i disagree implosion is obviously town

[Eddie Cane]

I do *not* scumread implosion, but I don't town read them much either.

[Mulch]

Also I think it's scummy that you think that I am "deliberately going after people that scum read you"

when you never mentioned this before

Maybe I only noticed when it actually became a pattern????

You never mentioned me before so does that completely invalidate your scum read on me?

So why did you vote me then? lol

[Mulch]

That's incorrect I'm scumreading 2/4 people that vote me

I mean you scum read Transcend (Eddie's predecessor) HARD until he broke the rules by proving he was being genuine so not much you can do about that one

And implosion is just obviously town

Why are you acting like it's a bad thing

It's basically a free advantage

[Mulch]

I do *not* scumread implosion, but I don't town read them much either.

You should see their most recent scumgame it's completely different

Prety obvious too

[Mulch]

Also I think it's scummy that you think that I am "deliberately going after people that scum read you"

when you never mentioned this before

Maybe I only noticed when it actually became a pattern????

You never mentioned me before so does that completely invalidate your scum read on me?

So why did you vote me then? lol

Also a question: not mention what before

[Mulch]

Sigh this is dumbaf


When implosion gets online I'm gonna knock some sense into his brain


And then we move forward

[Spiffeh]

You're saying you think it's scummy that I haven't mentioned you specifically going after people that scum read you before and that I'm only bringing it up now

I could use the same argument: "You haven't mentioned scum reading me before, so it is scummy that you are only mentioning it now!"

I'm saying it's a bad argument

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE:

[Spiffeh]

This is what happens when people complain about my lack of reads

I force myself to push something that I only half believe in to shut them up and it goes no where

I'm just gonna reread the whole game tomorrow and hopefully something will stick out to me

[Aristophanes]

68 pages ;_;

I'm reading up now, starting again at page 10. I will try to get this done tonight since I have a chance!
Reserving comments until the end I think.

[Firebringer]

Rc says Spiffeh is Town.

[implosion]

i'm an idiot for forgetting to check the thread ~2 hours ago.

I basically wholeheartedly agree with Patrick's assessment of Mulch's recent posting. I want to call it town, but I don't know if I can. But:

i don't get mislynched as town. ever. i get wagoned and suspected plenty. there's a difference. i obvtown when it matters.

Unvote

VOTE: Chara

[implosion]

gonna do reads a bit later discussing a replacement for trans

but anyways

hey fire can trans read u? y/n

I think he has a good track record but I have no idea what his method of reading me is.

Is it just me or is this post actually INCREDIBLY sketchy. Like, really, really impressively sketchy for how short of a post it is.

Imagine you're you, and you're town, and someone asks "hey, can my teammate read you?"

The answer is probably yes or no, or maybe something more complicated. If it's yes, then if you're town, you'll confidently say yes, they can, or you'll give the kind of hedge that Mulch did with regards to boonskiies (i.e. "yes, they can read me, and if they scumread me it likely means their teammate in this game is scum"). If the answer is no, and you're town, you'll say they can't read you. But if you're scum, it can be an awkward question to answer if the actual answer is yes, for obvious reasons: if you can't justify scumreading the person in question, then them giving a scumread on you is suddenly tantamount to a death sentence, as you've essentially given that person your blessing to give a read on you.

Which brings us to this post by Firebringer. "I have no idea what his method of reading me is." Why do you bring that up as town? It just seems so, so much more likely to be something at the forefront of your mind as scum, when you know you have to say the person can read you but you feel like you want to discredit them in case they turn against you.

I might be completely making the significance of this up so opinions etc thank you

[implosion]

That's incorrect I'm scumreading 2/4 people that vote me

I mean you scum read Transcend (Eddie's predecessor) HARD until he broke the rules by proving he was being genuine so not much you can do about that one

And implosion is just obviously town

And this is also quite quite sketchy. I liked spiffeh's disengagement with Ginngie iirc. But this attack against mulch is at the very least bad, if not scummy. You don't get to phrase the attack like this:

Mulch why is everyone that votes for you/calls you scum automatically scum?

when there are exceptions, even if you think those exceptions are "obvious"... especially if, when taking those exceptions out, it only applies to two people??

Like I sort of have a difficult time believing Spiff is being genuine with this slight. But it's not the kind of thing that he has a whole ton of motivation to post as scum, either?

[Firebringer]

gonna do reads a bit later discussing a replacement for trans

but anyways

hey fire can trans read u? y/n

I think he has a good track record but I have no idea what his method of reading me is.

Is it just me or is this post actually INCREDIBLY sketchy. Like, really, really impressively sketchy for how short of a post it is.

Imagine you're you, and you're town, and someone asks "hey, can my teammate read you?"

The answer is probably yes or no, or maybe something more complicated. If it's yes, then if you're town, you'll confidently say yes, they can, or you'll give the kind of hedge that Mulch did with regards to boonskiies (i.e. "yes, they can read me, and if they scumread me it likely means their teammate in this game is scum"). If the answer is no, and you're town, you'll say they can't read you. But if you're scum, it can be an awkward question to answer if the actual answer is yes, for obvious reasons: if you can't justify scumreading the person in question, then them giving a scumread on you is suddenly tantamount to a death sentence, as you've essentially given that person your blessing to give a read on you.

Which brings us to this post by Firebringer. "I have no idea what his method of reading me is." Why do you bring that up as town? It just seems so, so much more likely to be something at the forefront of your mind as scum, when you know you have to say the person can read you but you feel like you want to discredit them in case they turn against you.

I might be completely making the significance of this up so opinions etc thank you

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