Open 709: Masons and Monks (Game Over)

[Mathdino]

I think nothing of it.

At minimum, I am that VT. I'm being kept alive because I've failed to convince scum I could still be mason/monk (it's pretty obvious to any PR hunter) and they knew I'd never lynch momo/mozamis so they took their chances there.

If we massclaim we're of course going to get 2 masons, 2 monks, and 3 VT claims. Could really be any of them. But it would help PoEing out potential partners.

My hope is that by now the masons and monks have pretty decent reads on their partners. I can't solve a lurker game.

[Dunnstral]

the start of day 2 with Dino and Koto... that was TvT. I really did not like d1 Dave, and d2 Dave is just as bad. Dunn is pretty well non-existent, as is Assemble... I wanna push one of these two before we start running people up.
VOTE: Dunn

So this isn't a real push then, and you plan to move your vote later? Good to know

I'll move my vote if I have reason to.

Hi! Sorry I just watched a bunch of movies. It was kind of more important. But now I am here.

intent to hammer

happy? i'll be on around 11:30-14:30ish tomorrow if y'all need me.

Archwing needs to explain this, actually, because this is making me think he is mafia

[Dunnstral]

My other main suspect coming into today was raya.

[JaydragonKing]

So your answer is Archie as the Goon and Raya as the Werewolf, Dunn?

I hope you elaborate on both then.

[JaydragonKing]

Jotting down that I did indeed spot Raya online just now, and calling her out on it, like she said to do.

[davesaz]

Analysis in progress but I'm recovering from a campout.

[Raya36]

Jotting down that I did indeed spot Raya online just now, and calling her out on it, like she said to do.

Lol, you caught me. I need to stop doing this to myself... More from me later tonight maybe.

[JaydragonKing]

I really hope so, Raya, I really do...

And everyone but Assemble has talked now. What a shocker.

[Raya36]

At minimum, I am that VT.

How is this town oriented to say?

[Mathdino]

Helps clear up things. I'd be dead if scum thought there was any chance of me being an actual mason/monk. I've been pretty obvious, what with constantly asking to die and all. In hindsight "asking scum to NK me" and "pretending to be a power role" don't really work well together.

I would really hope that the masons/monks actually talked enough in the 3-day long nightphase to actually sort each other.

[Raya36]

There was still doubt and scum still might have nked you instead of a mason/monk.

Seems more scum oriented than anything to me. You're widely townread and you're bringing up the idea of a massclaim. Of course if you were scum in this situation you'd want to get your VT claim out even before the mc if there is one. It'd make you seem even more town.

[Mathdino]

Scum is never gonna counterclaim in this situation.

Do you understand that this is in some way MyLo? We mislynch today, scum can put us in an unwinnable position tomorrow through 0 action on our part.

In the situation that mislynch is unacceptable, that's where massclaim comes into play.

Jay asks what I think of the fact that there's possibly only one VT remaining, and I'm like, ok, that's me, but idgaf.

The fact is that I've done everything possible to get NK'd up to this point. If the lurkers are masons/monks, I'd actually argue I'm higher utility to town at this rate, so scum is gonna have a tough choice tonight between shooting me or reducing possible PoE. But extra confusion at this point is worthless.

Most likely anyone we run up is gonna claim mason/monk and their partner is gonna have to claim a read on them.

[Raya36]

I understand it's mylo and I get that we can't afford a mislynch and I'm not against a massclaim. I'm just considering you setting this massclaim up to make yourself look better.

[Mathdino]

I understand it's mylo and I get that we can't afford a mislynch and I'm not against a massclaim. I'm just considering you setting this massclaim up to make yourself look better.

What benefit is there in scum claiming first?

And if you think it's "towncred"

What kind of townie townreads someone for being the first to claim VT?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Archwing

This is my most confident

If you look at the vca it makes a lot of sense as well, they were on the wolf counterwagon, they put intent on mafia that was about to be lynched when it didn't make sense

[Dunnstral]

Vote Count (1.8)

Almost50 [0]

Archwing [0]

Assemblerotws [4]

davesaz, Kotoko Utsugi, Archwing, JaydragonKing
:right:

[LYNCHED]

Beefster [7]

Mathdino, Almost50, talon152, Raya36, momo, mozamis, Beefster

davesaz [0]

Dunnstral [1]

Assemblerotws

JaydragonKing [0]

Kotoko Utsugi [0]

Mathdino [0]

momo [0]

mozamis [0]

Raya36 [0]

talon152 [0]

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Not Voting:

Dunnstral

The alderman watches over the gathered townsfolk as accusations are flung and fingers are pointed. Day turns to twilight turns to night, and the fat, full moon leers from above. Finally, a consensus is reached. One of their own is dragged to the tree in the center of town, and even as they pull him, his body transforms. Bubbling flesh erupts into a stooped musculature, and hair sprouts along his body faster than any normal hair growth. The moon sings its sweet song as a their victim is strung up. His body jerks, then sways limply beneath the lunar light.

The remaining townsfolk filter back to their houses. Only two among them laugh when they're alone - the insidious mafia.

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Beefster,

Werewolf

, was lynched day 1.

Night Deadline:

(expired on 2018-01-20 20:15:04)

Do you guys think wolf bussed Beefster?

Or what do you think about this now

[JaydragonKing]

I thought we went over the potential Wolf Bus on day 2? We went over quite a bit actually. And with knowing the roles of Sheep, Moz, and Koko, we can reflect on the stuff much better.

We should also see what each slot contributed to see what may have lead to them getting shot in particular.

[Mathdino]

from my perspective raya is the only potential bus on beefster

she doesn't look like she bussed tho tbh

[JaydragonKing]

I'm going to describe you all from my perspective right now. Consider this my opinions for all of you to see.

Assemble: Get the hell in here already. Help town win or be a crappy scum and reveal yourself so we can hang you.

Mathdino: Came in expecting to die and yet is still doing to most work. Also finally revealed he's pure VT.

Raya: School and Exams are half the stuff she says. The rest of her reads are passable.

Dunn: Finally starting to ask good questions despite skipping out on day one.

Dave: Even though he helps he still can't stick into my mind? I really don't know why.

Archwing: He's been the most Null to me, and in Multiball, that's probably not a good thing.

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Now for who I think are the scum partners to Beef first it would be:

Dave: Did have questions and doubts about the Beef Lynch but then went hard on Koko.

Dunn: May have shut up day one so his partner could just kill themselves so he could go in alone.

My partner for Koko is less sure but I think it's:

Assemble: I think Koko would be more likely to give up if her partner was doing jackshit. He also never put her in the spotlight. Only me.

[Dunnstral]

Is there a reason you don't suspect Archwing for beef's partner? Or Koko's?

[numberQ]

Vote Count (3.1)

Archwing [1]

Dunnstral

Assemblerotws [0]

davesaz [0]

[L-2]

Dunnstral [2]

Mathdino, JaydragonKing

JaydragonKing [0]

Mathdino [0]

Raya36 [0]

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Not Voting:

Archwing, Assemblerotws, davesaz, Raya36

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-02-11 10:19:58)

[JaydragonKing]

Because, like I said, I can't town read him but I also can't scumread him either. But I guess if I wanted to make both sides equal, I could think about him being Koko's partner.

[davesaz]

If scum are in the people with single digit posts I'd rather not let them get away without having to contribute d1.
I've changed my mind on the Beef lynch and think it is OK, but we have plenty of time to work with.
Technically nobody's due a prod, you can tell clearly by looking at the activity page.

I posted this literally the first online thing I did waking up that morning. I wanted the day to go longer to have more time to scumhunt. Beef self hammered about an hour later, while I was getting started with work. I firmly believe that beef tried to prevent us from looking further into the people we wanted to be prodded.

[Mathdino]

so assembler is actually scum then?

if he claims VT i lynch

[JaydragonKing]

Assemble is certainly not partners with kotoko

If he's a monk he's cleared imo

Quick change there, Dino. Well, it was a real life day that's past, but you get my point. I also claimed Assemble is the most likely partner of Koko in my opinion. Agree or disagree with me now? If you disagree, tell me why then.