Cabd is a cheater. They don't deserve my respect.In post 2030, Eddie Cane wrote:What about the fact you've been a massive cock to me, Cabd, and I'm sure others ITG? It is not manipulative, it is intentionally trying to call you out for your inappropriate comments you keep making at me and others. If you choose to have a temper tantrum, that's on you.
The willpower to not go full front with this is almost tearing me apart.In post 2030, Eddie Cane wrote:What am I trying to pin on you for your personal relations with people exactly muh friend? Simply gave a scum tell of you.
Ginnigie proved your entire theorm apart you ignorant idiot and you are too misguided to even see it.In post 2030, Eddie Cane wrote:Well, they do know your play. I redacted their name as to not call them out, but they are a very proficient player who you have asked advice from. It is one of my reasons for considering you scum and why I was experimentally backing off, but Ginngie had to kill that and you conveniently started posting immediately after he called you out.
This is correct. Posting cases that can make me look bad is a motiviational difference, disphit.In post 2030, Eddie Cane wrote:I thought your meta was the exact same except for very subtle motivational differences only the keenest hunters can discern?
Reading the thread, it looked like Transcend's point was that Mulch was only concerned about suspicion towards himself, and too relaxed when it was placed on Toranaga. I found Mulch's response pretty proportionate and would have found it more weird if he'd gone mad, or ignored it. I thought his response was pretty normal and not deserving of the attention Transcend gave it. If your point is that my paragraph didn't need the sentence starting "If someone you're..." then you're probably right.Cheetory wrote:Kind of feel like this is missing the point of what Transcend was saying/doing? Like, the issue isn't that Mulch questioned it, Transcend was saying that the degree to which Mulch reacted to Transcend pushing him vs Transcend pushing someone that Mulch was townreading was disproportionate. It seems like you're acknowledging this by saying you read 410 but then I don't really understand why you left the bit in about Transcend pushing Mulch for the Toranaga vote in this post. Or if you felt like the reasoning Transcend was using had changed at some point, it doesn't really seem like you checked back to see if it squared up and just accepted 410 at face value which would be kind of weird.
It struck an odd note to me when I read it, sometimes scum put that stuff on, and misjudge when they would do it as town. I'm not sure why it being mathdino matters, if Kmd is scum, his teammates commenting on the game are also scum, any reactions and any scumhunting influenced by knowing everyone's alignment. I'm not saying that I thought Kmd's first hand reaction was "fuck off...", maybe that's where the misinterpretation is. Tbh now you've made me reread it, I feel the same as I did then.Cheetory wrote:Quoted post is him relaying a teammate's thoughts so I'm really unsure why you were getting on KMD's case for seeming fake when it's emotional telephone. Would probably be a lot more weird if it wasn't feigned?
Initially Unabombah felt awkward to me. Lots of emoticons, lots of jokey/spammy posts. He gave what seemed like a few serious reads: Firebringer maybe town for replace out, liked Transcend, but sort of weakened them later by saying pretty much all his posts have been jokes up until then. 261 gave me a gut pang with both lines, especially "Transcend is garbage town", even though that comment can make sense logically.Cheet wrote:Can I get some words on why for the bolded?
This post. This is one of the most individually scummy posts in the entire game.In post 1857, Kagami wrote:I think someone said a while ago that Mulch is good as town. Now, I'm pretty skeptical of that, given his insistence that his town-game is identical to his scum-game, but let's imagine it's true.
100% of his scumreads throughout the entire game are town. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
"you're a cunt"In post 2065, Firebringer wrote:I haven’t been honestly reading mulch’s posts these last two pages
Tldr
Cheet. What is this?cheet wrote: KMD just has a lot of energy that I feel would be really really hard to fake for scum and especially for scumHim (having seen him basically lurk out as scum a few times in the past.
I am. See my back and forth with Kagami.Eddie wrote: I don't actually remember KMD townreading mulch nor any reasons
Fair. And yes, it does discount spiffs reasons for townreading me. Anyone who tries to read me based on activity is either faking their reasons or just flat wrong about how to read me. So when I see it I have to determine which it is. Its been done a few times this game and even when it leads to a town read it's kind of irritating. When I have free time, I'm active. When I don't, I'm not. It's simple and can be proven over about a decade of meta yet people still either don't get it or abuse it for any easy way to fake reads. What do you think of spiff using this after scum reading me for my teams input? Is it fake or just wrong? Im on the fence, personally.Eddie wrote: I haven't. Personality Analysis (tm). Actually, I think you were town in that LQ game I read through, but regardless I can tell from your quality and style of scum game you are good at town too, if you can post like that as scum you can certainly do it as town. And, I buy 2. Almost like it discounts Spiffehs reasons for townreading you o.o
I'll ISO implosion when I'm on my computer and get back to you.Eddie wrote: What's he doing that's scummy? I can't remember him ever pinging me, and again I don't have time to do ISOs rn and have not seen one single convincing reason to scumread him
Remind me what your Lynch pool was.Eddie wrote: So, correct me if I'm wrong but I'm interpreting this as you approve of my lynch pool for the most part. Aristo needs to actually post before I'm locking him as town, even though he's pretty shit at scum and despises it it isn't the same as Creature.
I don't have one. We have next to nothing to judge Aris on so I'm trusting what everyone says of his meta and preferring town. I think I have two games with Aris. Both were town games. One he was pretty involved and gambited with a LYLO scum claim. The other was exactly like this.Eddie wrote: His scum tells are being too nice as scum, forced posting, lurking. He is way behind and not posting anything relevant, he has been completely nice, and as you said forced. Like I said, I'm waiting for him to post because he really likely would want a town PM to me but this is scum ari in play so far, so we need the catchup and then active Ari. KMD, rebuttal?
I don't understand what this question is asking me.Kmd4390 wrote:Cheet. What is this?
KMD wrote:Cheet, why do you think Town Kagami flips his read on me so suddenly after that exchange?
In post 1299, Kagami wrote:I only just realized that's the game we were in together. I was thinking it was Nati's MTG game where we couldn't win because there it multiball with a bulletproof IC.
I vaguely recall playing with you in some game where Juls was scum and I was a Dragon or something like that.
Feels like this makes sense to me if there's a reason why your play in Inuyasha would explain the context for your push here in Kagami's eyes.In post 1386, Kagami wrote:I had you as reasonably likely scum because your reason for town-reading mulch, who continues to be obvious scum, was absurd.
I've eased off that because I now remember you from Inu Yasha.
I just read kagami's ISO and came out of it with the impression that they're town. I do like their entrance push on spiffeh and I like all of their posts re: mulch in the sense of those being genuine thoughts and kagami believing the push. IDK what's scummy about kagami but maybe you can enlighten me.In post 2072, implosion wrote:Yo.
I’m phone so no real content but I feel a bit incrementally better about mulch from the last couple pages.
Anyone who strongly thinks Kagami is town has until I get home in a couple hours to convince me not to join the wagon bc the only reason I remember anyone saying is liking their entrance and I remember finding it mediocre.
And Mulch answered with simply "I have?". It feels like he saw what happened and decided what stance to take without thinking critically about it. And then after that, he said that Mulch was after town cred. That makes no sense to me considering Mulch's line of reasoning was even if he (Mulch) flips scum, we should still treat Tora as confirmed town. It just doesn't feel like Implosion is actively sorting here.Implosion wrote:This is something he has explicitly stated he just does sometimes.
And I know he's not the only one guilty of it (see spiff), but it really felt like he wanted to fly under the radar for a while. And not just in the sense of activity. But more...just not stirring up controversy. Not getting his hands dirty. Not giving anyone a chance to say "man that was a really scummy push".Implosion wrote:But it's not really accurate to say that I'm scumreading anyone right now. I'm pretty reluctant these days to actually scumread anyone early d1 unless something sort of falls into place, which it does sometimes but not always. I mostly just accumulate townreads.