Open 708: Pick Your Poison - Game Over

Thor665 · Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:59 pm

In post 1446, CultOfAthena wrote:Mozamis can't post the way that he has this game as scum. If you're familiar with Creature, it's kind of like that.

Example?
Because this sounds pretty cut and dry if true.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:06 pm

I mean. I do fundamentally agree with NSG's assertion that this is unlike Mozamis's scumgame as far as he has played it

but I find it more likely that this is by far his best scumgame than that he is town.

mozamis · Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:09 pm

Ok, I haven't caught up but i've had a few "away from the game" thoughts and i wanted to post them before i got lost in the woods again...
Maybe - i do emphahsise the word MAYBE - Thor is town. He could be the sort of emotional player that OMGUS' heavily. Maybe he just OMGUSed Flub Day 1, and is doing the same to me now.
And mayeb I got caught up in the fact that FLub was IC. clearly, Thor could have just got it wrong as town.
So. Put Thor on the back burner for now.

occam's razor lynch EP and TEx

Obvious often IS right in Mafia, and they are the 2 that have done fuck all consistently all game. If they are town they should have replaced out by now.

VOTE: ep

i'll catch up in a bit, but its gonna take somehtng special to change my mind

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:10 pm

I also want to note that I find his play in this game distinctly different than, for example, his play in the game that you modded NSG.

texcat · Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:26 pm

Y'all must expect people to be bussing all the time. I'm not used to that. Perhaps I'm just out of touch. After reading RCs wall on Moz though, I went to look to look at the last time Moz was scum and found Mini 1961 where he hardly bussed at all. His scum game there does not look much like his game here to me.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:27 pm

In post 1454, texcat wrote:Y'all must expect people to be bussing all the time. I'm not used to that. Perhaps I'm just out of touch. After reading RCs wall on Moz though, I went to look to look at the last time Moz was scum and found Mini 1961 where he hardly bussed at all. His scum game there does not look much like his game here to me.

I agree that he has no scum games that look like this but I would also assert that he has no town games that look like this, not in the manner that I'm thinking of.

Thor665 · Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:27 pm

In post 1451, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean. I do fundamentally agree with NSG's assertion that this is unlike Mozamis's scumgame as far as he has played it

but I find it more likely that this is by far his best scumgame than that he is town.

So this is unlike his scum game in your opinion.
Is it like his town games?
Or is it a total outlier?

In post 1452, mozamis wrote:Ok, I haven't caught up but i've had a few "away from the game" thoughts and i wanted to post them before i got lost in the woods again...
Maybe - i do emphahsise the word MAYBE - Thor is town. He could be the sort of emotional player that OMGUS' heavily. Maybe he just OMGUSed Flub Day 1, and is doing the same to me now.
And mayeb I got caught up in the fact that FLub was IC. clearly, Thor could have just got it wrong as town.
So. Put Thor on the back burner for now.

occam's razor lynch EP and TEx

Obvious often IS right in Mafia, and they are the 2 that have done fuck all consistently all game. If they are town they should have replaced out by now.

VOTE: ep

i'll catch up in a bit, but its gonna take somehtng special to change my mind

Weren't you calling EP lynchbait?
Why hop on that option even if you now think maybe I'm only a soft scumlean/null/soft town?
Wouldn't your read on him stay the same - lynchbait?

Thor665 · Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:27 pm

In post 1455, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1454, texcat wrote:Y'all must expect people to be bussing all the time. I'm not used to that. Perhaps I'm just out of touch. After reading RCs wall on Moz though, I went to look to look at the last time Moz was scum and found Mini 1961 where he hardly bussed at all. His scum game there does not look much like his game here to me.
I agree that he has no scum games that look like this but I would also assert that he has no town games that look like this, not in the manner that I'm thinking of.

Can you unpack 'manner' here?

texcat · Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:29 pm

Who is NSG?

Beefster · Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:01 pm

In post 1436, CultOfAthena wrote:I'm not budging on my moz townread. I'm more confident in moz!town than any other read I have. RC, just for a moment look at this game from the perspecitve of moz being town – what then?

moz/COA/HWS scumteam confirmed.

VOTE: mozamis

Beefster · Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:03 pm

@Thor: Don't be silly. I'm the lynch bait.

But really, good catch.

Thor665 · Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:02 pm

@Beefster - why the sudden reverse on the Thor/Moz situation? You have been having a habit of late of just kind of going with the flow, and it's not as endearing as your earlier play.

mozamis · Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:17 pm

so yeah i'm skimming through - overview often useful - and EP and Tex are conspicuous by their absence

mozamis · Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:18 pm

In post 1380, Thor665 wrote:I would agree he was bussed by a partner.

tex's hammer was awful

mozamis · Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:22 pm

In post 1435, CultOfAthena wrote:
In post 1319, mozamis wrote:we shouldnt vpte Ep his las tpost was very town - actually gave out...you know..reads.
he is lynch bait.
@ COA - well, you thought i was "erratic" day 1, and yet i was right about Hewho. Maybe just take a leap and go with it.
And if you need "proof before belief", thor is a very active player who hasnt doen any scum hunting all game.
You understand that, yeah?
I hope you understand that when I said you were "a little all over the place", it wasn't any sort of insult – it was just a comment on your typing style.

ah

sorry feel a bit of a dick now, i took it the wrong way - probably cos i know I DO change my mind a lot, its just my way of sucmhunting.
But yeah, my typing sucks balls

sorry for being obtuse

mozamis · Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:29 pm

In post 1453, RadiantCowbells wrote:I also want to note that I find his play in this game distinctly different than, for example, his play in the game that you modded NSG.

you were in that game?
well i was town in that game, and town in this game, so i dont know what to say

prob conf bias, that cna be the trouble with meta, you see what you want to see

anyway, nothing in my catch up has changed my mind. Apart from *gritted teeth* Thor is prob town.
i kinda wish Cult would participate more so i could get rif of my paranoia about her, but having said that whnever she DOES grace us with her presence, she gives out reads.
Klick has to be town, otherwise we are in trouble.
but yeah happy with keeping it simple and lynchihng Ep or Tex.

mozamis · Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:34 pm

@ beef - why?

mozamis · Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:35 pm

so let me guess - Thor is gonna lynch me cos i annoyed him, likewise Rc, Likewiuse Beef, then EP and Tex will hammer?
guiys you got use your heads NOT YOUR FUCKING HEARTS

Thor665 · Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:19 pm

In post 1456, Thor665 wrote:Weren't you calling EP lynchbait?
Why hop on that option even if you now think maybe I'm only a soft scumlean/null/soft town?
Wouldn't your read on him stay the same - lynchbait?

@Moz

Thor665 · Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:19 pm

Also, curls y toes to have me go from a liar in your eyes to 'probably town' as soon as wagon momentum shifts.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:20 pm

In post 1469, Thor665 wrote:Also, curls y toes to have me go from a liar in your eyes to 'probably town' as soon as wagon momentum shifts.

wow it's almost like his shifts in trajectory in literally every single instance have massive scum motivation who would have thought it

mozamis · Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:59 am

In post 1454, texcat wrote:Y'all must expect people to be bussing all the time. I'm not used to that. Perhaps I'm just out of touch. After reading RCs wall on Moz though, I went to look to look at the last time Moz was scum and found Mini 1961 where he hardly bussed at all. His scum game there does not look much like his game here to me.

yeah that was one of my better games as scum, unfortunately got vigged.
i've never bussed as scum like i pushed Hewho inthis game.
I'm flattered that people think my scum game is up to this level of complexity. It really isnt.

mozamis · Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:00 am

In post 1461, Thor665 wrote:@Beefster - why the sudden reverse on the Thor/Moz situation? You have been having a habit of late of just kind of going with the flow, and it's not as endearing as your earlier play.

that is a good call, Beef you think me and Thor are scum together? I mean...wtf??!!

mozamis · Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:05 am

In post 1468, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1456, Thor665 wrote:Weren't you calling EP lynchbait?
Why hop on that option even if you now think maybe I'm only a soft scumlean/null/soft town?
Wouldn't your read on him stay the same - lynchbait?
@Moz

yes, i was, think i was wrong though. i thought you were scum when Day 1 began and you voted Ep. Plus his name has been tossed around all game as possible scum, which had me worried.
you'll note that it's a change of heart, but not from nowhere - he was in my scum pool for quite sometime, before Flub flipped IC and i changed my reads.

mozamis · Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:13 am

In post 1469, Thor665 wrote:Also, curls y toes to have me go from a liar in your eyes to 'probably town' as soon as wagon momentum shifts.

you mean, RC unvoted you and i then unvote cos one person has unvoted you? you saying that i as scum just give up when there is still a decent wagon on you.
Main point you should be thinking about is why, as scum, do i decide to tunnelling you beginning of Day 2. You're hardly the easiest lynch bait...Makes NO SENSE at all.
It should really 1) piss you off at an emotional level 2) But conf me as town on a rtional level.
Have to be out of mind to play like this is as scum "Hey let's attack one of the most aggressive, adversarial players in the game when there is no wagon on him and then give up and vote Thor's scum read when on eperson unvotes Thor".
You know it make no sense.
Get back on EP and lets win this.