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Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:52 am

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Only town will get to use the vengekill without being endgamed, so it's alright.
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Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:52 am

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I don't think there are four scum.
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Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:55 am

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Returning to my PoE:
Aneninen

Katyusha
Ghostlin (Hinduragi)
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signersinger (Primate)
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Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:55 am

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In post 3102, Creature wrote:Returning to my PoE:
Aneninen

Katyusha
Ghostlin (Hinduragi)
RadiantCowbells

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signersinger (Primate)
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Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:57 am

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Wild guess:

Last scum is signersinger/Primate.
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Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:37 am

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I think you are ruling out Aneninen prematurely. They even understand why they should be suspicious. Announcing it themselves is not a town tell. Especially in this situation where they are the last scum left trying their hardest to be town read.


Aneninen, why not unvote RC yourself to make sure there is not an accidental quick lynch. Unless you wanted to keep a certain position on the wagon?
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Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:42 am

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In post 3086, GuiltyLion wrote:- I agree that it's less likely that scum didn't bus early on, but I don't think it was obvious that mastina was getting lynched (or that Reck was targeting RC with the hider) until
In post 3086, GuiltyLion wrote:if scum did bus, I think it's between Creature/BYF/singersigner, they are in the sweet spot of "hop on this wagon as it's inevitably happening at this point anyway and we need to get something out of it"
In post 3086, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm here as of the D2 flips, but haven't sat down and re-ISO'd or reread:
{Smocaine}
{S_S, Ghostlin, Katyusha, BYF}
{Screenplay, Creature, Anenien}
{EP, singersigner}
{RC}
So after these two statements. From the same post. How do you have me lower than Yoshi?
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Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:48 am

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*shrug*
UNVOTE:
Consider my vote there.
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Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:59 am

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In post 3042, beeboy wrote:Invention Vote
1-shot Vengeful: When you die you may target a player and they will die as well. This is disabled in lylo.
@Mod. Not specified if it’s just a lynch that activates ability. It just says when you die. Is that correct?


Hider, it completely resolves before any other action starts. Correct?
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Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:27 am

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In post 3104, Creature wrote:Wild guess:

Last scum is signersinger/Primate.
i disagree, i really felt singer's entrance and later engagement was townie and i'm trusting shea's read here

eddie and i are both at ghostlin > gl > ep > srceen > no fucking idea we're townreading everyone else pretty hard, and we have like 5 lynches with this venge so let's go

elect: ghostlin


i felt the way rc engaged (or rather refused to) with me while I was scumreading hinduragi was from him not really wanting me to develop that read any further, and with how hard mastina and rc were set on buddying me that felt really out of place. plus mastina's townread of him was really out of place

the elect should really just be thought of as tomorrow's lynch - srceen your concern about giving scum the venge is out of place since there's only one scum left lmfao
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Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:45 am

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In post 3105, Srceenplay wrote:I think you are ruling out Aneninen prematurely. They even understand why they should be suspicious. Announcing it themselves is not a town tell. Especially in this situation where they are the last scum left trying their hardest to be town read.


Aneninen, why not unvote RC yourself to make sure there is not an accidental quick lynch. Unless you wanted to keep a certain position on the wagon?
1000% this.

I am full steam either Aneninen or Errant after RC.

I need to parse through how I feel about the vengeful after answers from beeboy (confirm that only town would get to use the shot and that it counts at any point of death).
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Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:47 am

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why would it matter if scum have the ability to use it anyway if we're down to 1 scum after the rc lynch again
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Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:48 am

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The description of vengeful pretty clearly states that it's upon any death.

Also GL is town.
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Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:50 am

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i mean i think chesskid was right that rc's last minute wagon on GL had quite a bit of scum equity so if you're ruling him out for some reason other than that i'd like to know
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Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:21 am

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It's partly due to that, partly due to him defending me and Ghostlin at a time when scum need to lay the grounds for as many mislynches as possible.
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Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:24 am

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Hm

I’m still set on it being the hinduslot anyway but I’m probably going to look through everyone then keeping in mind that they need mislynches later when I have a chance - I only really have looked at mastina’s ISO
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Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:22 am

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In post 3109, Katyusha wrote:i disagree, i really felt singer's entrance and later engagement was townie and i'm trusting shea's read here
It's mostly that it seems Primate got a really easy townread from RC, but whatever.
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Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:33 am

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Wasn’t rc the one trying to go like “wHY IS EVERYONE TOWNREADING PRIMAYE?”

Like I distinctly remember him trying to muddy that slot’s credibility
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Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:48 am

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In post 3117, Katyusha wrote:Wasn’t rc the one trying to go like “wHY IS EVERYONE TOWNREADING PRIMAYE?”

Like I distinctly remember him trying to muddy that slot’s credibility
Might have hallucinated this nvm?

Rc’s iso is kind of huge but I remember distinctly someone asking who townread primate
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Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:11 am

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I remember someone giving an easy townread on Primate and I thought it was RC.

Meh, not going to bother checking a spam-filled ISO.
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Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:29 am

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guilty why are you null on creature btw
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Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:19 am

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In post 3119, Creature wrote:I remember someone giving an easy townread on Primate and I thought it was RC.

Meh, not going to bother checking a spam-filled ISO.
Why don't you try giving me an original read? You don't have to PoE me, yaknow...I don't exactly make it difficult to read me. :]

@GuiltyLion...what makes you group me into potentially bussing Mastina? What makes you think my vote was out of "inevitably happening"? After only two votes on Mastina, I said I was good with her lynch, and both Creature and BigYoshi voted pretty quickly and consecutively after that. With no momentum for a lynch, as a motherfuckingreplacement, I had no reason to vote there yet. I would very much disagree that the three of us, as the votes shook out, have any advantage of placing them as we did.

If anything, I think it's more likely that Srceenplay and Mastina counter voted and Srceenplay practically voteparked/tunneled Mastina all game. This could easily be scum placing a "safe vote" before a lynch was inevitable, and lacked a valid reason to prevent it from happening to hop off later. I DO NOT THINK THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED BUT FOR PERSPECTIVE'S SAKE.

I used night as an opportunity to catch up on other games since I wasn't sure if I'd get night killed or not, but my approach is the same. I encourage questions on specific things soooo...lemmeknow.
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Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:02 am

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Okay singersigner, who's scum then?
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Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:31 am

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I have to move games guys.
We have a mia player. About to be forced replaced.
We will find a replacement a give them this lovely slot.
Please don’t expect them to read d1.
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Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:33 am

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