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[Cerberus v666]

@Varsoon: Would you rather play as a survivor and win the hard way, or be recruited?

This question goes to everyone who I've played with before. Well, anyone can answer it, but I'm specifically concerned with the responses of people who I'm familiar with.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is my buddy?

Either everyone who is a neutral survivor - or everyone in your cult. So, which one is it?

Not a reaction I'd expect from scum tbh

[mutantdevle]

3) Anything else?

It could rush them into recruiting someone who may not be the best idea to recruit.

[Srceenplay]

I can be your buddy.

Who is my buddy?

Either everyone who is a neutral survivor - or everyone in your cult. So, which one is it?

You are the first one to take this stance.
I don’t like it. Your perspective feels off. You jumped up to vig target #1

[Gamma Emerald]

I can be your buddy.

Who is my buddy?

Either everyone who is a neutral survivor - or everyone in your cult. So, which one is it?

You are the first one to take this stance.
I don’t like it. Your perspective feels off. You jumped up to vig target #1

D I S A G R E E
What's scummy about having original thought?

[Varsoon]

@Varsoon: Would you rather play as a survivor and win the hard way, or be recruited?

This question goes to everyone who I've played with before. Well, anyone can answer it, but I'm specifically concerned with the responses of people who I'm familiar with.

Survivor is the most bum wincon in the game, but it probably isn't so awful in this game.
Obviously, I'd rather be cult, but that's because I like having knowledge.

[Inferno390]

See, I don't agree with quick end being bad, because unless both cult leaders are really active, it minimizes the hit on "town." All PRs have to do is submit they're reads early, and by D2, that should not be an issue.

[Inferno390]

Will someone explain the Heal/Hurt tags plz?
Oh, and Screenplay is prob one of the vigs. He hasn't exactly done a good job of hiding it.

[Venmar]

HURT: Inferno390

[Srceenplay]

I can be your buddy.

Who is my buddy?

Either everyone who is a neutral survivor - or everyone in your cult. So, which one is it?

You are the first one to take this stance.
I don’t like it. Your perspective feels off. You jumped up to vig target #1

D I S A G R E E
What's scummy about having original thought?

It’s not that it’s original it’s the mind set of it.

When I asked who wants to be my buddy people said “me”. My POV it looks like I’m alone and don’t want to be.

His perspective wasn’t that. His was “you are neutral or cult.” That just felt like a different perspective from a neutral who is all alone looking for a buddy.

[Varsoon]

Will someone explain the Heal/Hurt tags plz?
Oh, and Screenplay is prob one of the vigs. He hasn't exactly done a good job of hiding it.

It's pretty obvious.
We don't have a means of putting people towards a lynch, but kills might exist in this game.
HEAL can mean "Hey, I think this guy is town, but I don't want to immune-vote them."
HURT can mean "Hey, I think this guy is scum, but I don't have the means to vote/lynch them."

It's basically FoS voting.

It's basically stupid.
People should just use their words instead of made up tags that only serve to confuse and potentially obfuscate players' stances on others.

[Srceenplay]

Will someone explain the Heal/Hurt tags plz?
Oh, and Screenplay is prob one of the vigs. He hasn't exactly done a good job of hiding it.

Scum pr hunt.

[Srceenplay]

Will someone explain the Heal/Hurt tags plz?
Oh, and Screenplay is prob one of the vigs. He hasn't exactly done a good job of hiding it.

It might have something to do with the vig mechanic?

[Inferno390]

So what you're saying is that Vigs are naturally immune?
Why not keep that secret? You could have played a game that appealed to cult and gotten them to waste a night trying to get you.

[Cerberus v666]

The Heal/Hurt thing is a joke some people do. I don't know the strength of opinion it expresses, but I read it as Heal=TR, Hurt=SR.


@Inferno: Again, the cult leaders don't need to be "really active"...they just need to be in the 50% more active half of the game, assuming everyone logs on and immediately votes for the same person(which obviously won't happen, and therefore reduced the activity requirements even further).

It's really not hard to see a wagon forming when people are deliberately pushing for a quick majority and pop the recruit anytime after it reaches the tipping point.

[Cerberus v666]

So what you're saying is that Vigs are naturally immune?
Why not keep that secret? You could have played a game that appealed to cult and gotten them to waste a night trying to get you.

Meh, it was basically super obvious that any vigilantes that exist would have to be naturally immune, otherwise the random chance of recruiting a vig would be too impactful.

[Venmar]

Oh, and Screenplay is prob one of the vigs. He hasn't exactly done a good job of hiding it.

If this was hypothetically true, what positive motivation is there behind revealing or drawing attention to this fact?

[mutantdevle]

Is screen actually claiming recruitment immune vig? I assumed he was just advising/saying where he'd place a vig kill.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, and Screenplay is prob one of the vigs. He hasn't exactly done a good job of hiding it.

If this was hypothetically true, what positive motivation is there behind revealing or drawing attention to this fact?

Valid question.

pedit: screen isn't claiming anything. Explicitly. And nobody should ask him to claim anything explicitly.

[Srceenplay]

So what you're saying is that Vigs are naturally immune?
Why not keep that secret? You could have played a game that appealed to cult and gotten them to waste a night trying to get you.

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[Venmar]

I'm glad that we have all come to the conclusion that immunity voting is easy for the cult leaders to destroy and neuter. Cerberus elaborately working himself up on how we could use immunity voting, and then in the same posts explaining how said use of immunity voting might be irrelevant, is top-notch discussion.

[Srceenplay]

HEAL: Varsoon

[Cerberus v666]

I believe your reading comprehension is severely lacking Venmar.

People were suggesting that we attempt to quicklynch every day in order to keep the cult from negating our immunity voting, and I was outlining how doing so doesn't actually accomplish anything, therefore we shouldn't waste our time attempting it.

[Inferno390]

Screenplay has had 10 posts, two of which is where he's talked about vigs and targets. I think that's some pretty hard crumbing.

So what you're saying is that Vigs are naturally immune?
Why not keep that secret? You could have played a game that appealed to cult and gotten them to waste a night trying to get you.

Meh, it was basically super obvious that any vigilantes that exist would have to be naturally immune, otherwise the random chance of recruiting a vig would be too impactful.

Okay, so say that natural immunity is true. But then wouldn't you not want to reveal you are a vig? As long as you lay low, you can attempt to draw a recruitment or two and benefit survivor.

[Srceenplay]

Screenplay has had 10 posts, two of which is where he's talked about vigs and targets. I think that's some pretty hard crumbing.

So what you're saying is that Vigs are naturally immune?
Why not keep that secret? You could have played a game that appealed to cult and gotten them to waste a night trying to get you.

Meh, it was basically super obvious that any vigilantes that exist would have to be naturally immune, otherwise the random chance of recruiting a vig would be too impactful.

Okay, so say that natural immunity is true. But then wouldn't you not want to reveal you are a vig? As long as you lay low, you can attempt to draw a recruitment or two and benefit survivor.

Holy fucking shit dude.
What is your motivation here?
You trying to say I’m a bad vig?
You trying to say I’m scum pretending to be vig?
Or are you just PR hunting?