♥ ♠ Open 711: Stack The Deck - Game Over ♣ ♦

[legoboyvdlp]

Thank you, NM is indeed useless and has a decent chance of being scum based on my NON-LYNCHABLES list should it happen to be accurate (calling it that from now on @tw)


@tw it was a joke based on NM. For his day talk theory to be true, both scum involved would need to be on at the same time, at least, active within the last hour.


@skitter if we can get another lynch tonight, by all means
But in case we do not have a vig, and no more lynch worthy tonight, we should get rid of the NM.

[Sky_Paladin]

My last game with Not Mafia was waaaay back in 2015 when we were scum together. He was a lot more active then but his posting style is still similar. Since it was nearly three years ago I'm not sure if we can take much from it.

NM has literally dozens of games under his belt and is probably a good player. Either he has a strategy for playing this way (e.g. mafia traitor) or he has mentally checked out of the game. If so, I expect he would have replaced though.

[Almost50]

FTR, I am not going to vote N_M regardless of his alignment. This guy brings joy (and sanity) to the games I play with him. I didn't even shoot him when he was Town and I was SK in a recent game (and I GENUINELY thought he was the Town Vig too).

P.S. So you all think I have a fetish for udders????

P-edit: This is the way N_M has played all the games I shared with him since I joined the site.

[Not_Mafia]

is probably a good player.

Incorrect

[Sky_Paladin]

P-edit: This is the way N_M has played all the games I shared with him since I joined the site.

At what stage does he evolve to a useful member of town? I could be persuaded to spare him if there's a promise of value down the line.

[northsidegal]

i think not mafia is obvtown this game, having played with him quite a few times at this point (although granted, my history with reading him isn't the best)

[the worst]

Is that post srs Pala? o.O

Seconded I'm enjoying N_M a lot. I also don't think he's playing terribly nor do I think he's scummy. Whilst I appreciate policy lynches/vigs in a theoretical way there is no reason to wagon him IMO

[Not_Mafia]

No Not_Mafia should definitely be wagoned, just look at that guy's ISO

[the worst]

N_M u make it so hard to logically argue for your survival

[skitter30]

I really don't like this fixation on pl's tbh.

Like, instead of finding scum we're using the lynch to remove players that may or may not be town but whose posting style we don't like?

[northsidegal]

may i propose the espeonage wagon for everyone's consideration?

[northsidegal]

VOTE: espeonage

[the worst]

I really don't like this fixation on pl's tbh.

Like, instead of finding scum we're using the lynch to remove players that may or may not be town but whose posting style we don't like?

+100
Skitter pls be my new best friend

may i propose the espeonage wagon for everyone's consideration?

I wouldn't hate the idea, what prompts this proposition?

[skitter30]

I would probably go there at deadline if I had to but that's not really one of my preferred wagons.

[Sky_Paladin]

Skitter/NSG;

I am undecided on Mutant. My preferred lynch was Screen, then Not Mafia, then Jay. Jay has claimed so he is not on my list for today and there doesn't appear to be any real interest in a Screen lynch.

I think there is a good argument that Mutant is scum. I could lynch that slot even though I am not specifically scum reading him. Some of his posts/votes are troubling and I don't think he is a shining example of town.

But out of my choices, since Jay and Screen are currently pencilled out, I'm now interested in NM, specifically as he is happy to make empty content posts, and supposedly unrelated people jump in to defend him. I'm deeply bothered by players who think that NM's conduct is desirable to have in the game because scum gain advantage from this style of play.

Let's be clear, I am not demanding a policy lynch of NM. But since there is some interest going his way, I would love for more votes to go to his wagon so we can see if he does anything interesting with a fire up his ass that IS alignment indicative.

Until now, nobody seemed to care. Now people care, but the ones who spoke up are in his defense and that is, as I mentioned to Worst a moment ago, quite anti-town.

What gives?

[JaydragonKing]

... was my last post ignored or lost at sea? Because I thought atleast one of you would respond to it.

[the worst]

R00d I'm in his defence and I'm the towniest player I know of

Convince me N_M is scum or has a chance of being scum
If he flips red what do we learn
If he flips green you realise all we'll do is go after people who over pushed NAI stuff right?

[Almost50]

P-edit: This is the way N_M has played all the games I shared with him since I joined the site.

At what stage does he evolve to a useful member of town? I could be persuaded to spare him if there's a promise of value down the line.

There's no guarantee to that. I've seen him have GOOD reads and I've seen him have BAD reads.

The point was of all the lurkers on the site this one's my favourite and probably the only one I won't ever lynch based on his activity level.

[Sky_Paladin]

Actually;

Skitter/NSG/A50

Let's say we're at LYLO and the only players left are NM, Sky, and (insert your name).

Sky and NM are countervoting.

Who do you vote and why?

[northsidegal]

may i propose the espeonage wagon for everyone's consideration?

I wouldn't hate the idea, what prompts this proposition?

it's kind of more of a gut-based read which i don't often push, although i can type up a more specific case on his weird vote progression / voting patterns when i get a bit more time. if it means anything to anyone i have experience with espeonage as scum where he was caught day one (although to be fair, that was only one game).

[the worst]

Who are your scum partners?
In this ""hypothetical scenario""

[Sky_Paladin]

@Worst
Two pages ago you said you had alarm bells when I answered a question directed at Lego.

Do you not see why I might be concerned when players don't care about Not Mafia at all until there's votes on the wagon, and that is only to defend NM instead of letting him post for himself?

[legoboyvdlp]

Ok, I'll look at Esp
Paladin, you still around, was that post earlier your thoughts on Esp?


Pedit, Paladin, that's a great argument to lynch NM, and I like it. I think those who can be active here at least for an hour or two should vote to put on the pressure, even if you don't want to lynch right now.

Pedot 3.. 4... 5... 6.... NSG what do you have on Esp and day 1 scum behaviour?

Pedit 7, yes, yes.

[Almost50]

No Not_Mafia should definitely be wagoned, just look at that guy's ISO

I love you, man. But seriously, do you have any other scum reads aside from "Yankee"?

[northsidegal]

Skitter/NSG;

I am undecided on Mutant. My preferred lynch was Screen, then Not Mafia, then Jay. Jay has claimed so he is not on my list for today and there doesn't appear to be any real interest in a Screen lynch.

I think there is a good argument that Mutant is scum. I could lynch that slot even though I am not specifically scum reading him. Some of his posts/votes are troubling and I don't think he is a shining example of town.

But out of my choices, since Jay and Screen are currently pencilled out, I'm now interested in NM, specifically as he is happy to make empty content posts, and supposedly unrelated people jump in to defend him. I'm deeply bothered by players who think that NM's conduct is desirable to have in the game because scum gain advantage from this style of play.

Let's be clear, I am not demanding a policy lynch of NM. But since there is some interest going his way, I would love for more votes to go to his wagon so we can see if he does anything interesting with a fire up his ass that IS alignment indicative.

Until now, nobody seemed to care. Now people care, but the ones who spoke up are in his defense and that is, as I mentioned to Worst a moment ago, quite anti-town.

What gives?

what's anti-town about defending someone i townread?

Actually;

Skitter/NSG/A50

Let's say we're at LYLO and the only players left are NM, Sky, and (insert your name).

Sky and NM are countervoting.

Who do you vote and why?

you, but i already scumread you, so you could replace nm's name with most other people's name.

Why did you ask this question?