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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:28 pm

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I actually like Gamma's switch to LQ. I don't agree with it really, but I like the epiphany 'it dawned on me' thing and "this is OBVIOUSLY forced" thing. Shows plenty of rawr that I'd want from town and wouldn't particularly expect from scum gamma unless TChillscum but Tchillscum + gammascum = gammabussing to a significant extent and means lynching Tchill slot good anyway.
In post 891, Gamma Emerald wrote:Can we slow down pretty please
Liked this reply to my long-predict from Gamma and I think it was Dunnstral who also had a 'slow down' reply. It felt town coming from those two.

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I don't see anything particularly difficult to fake in the WGE+Davsto ISO; a substantial chunk of their content comes from a pregame "Postie might pick scum" assessment and FOS Tchill but target Gamma / LQ feels good from a TChill buddy.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:29 pm

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In post 1067, Llamarble wrote:I think I actually feel better about Srceenflip than before replacement happened
This is implying that I’ve been scumming it up. Now Im starting to believe you are full of shit. So explain this to me.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:30 pm

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Can the rest of this game come in and engage. I feel like I’m talking to a bunch of walls.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:33 pm

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In post 1074, Srceenplay wrote:You guys are really frustrating.
I'm sorry I know him in real life and called him by his first name by mistake? This seems like a weird thing to get mad at me for...
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:35 pm

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That makes me feel a bit better, I really find this play here the towniest in comparison to other games I have been in with him, the two previous times he was scum and wasn't as townie. (One of which I caught him red-handed, but note that he states he has learned from it, so I'm keeping that in mind, I'm not underestimating him)
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:35 pm

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I think Davsto is an acceptable (maybe superior?) alternative to CES tomorrow in the event of a Tchill red flip.

I didn't like this post at all:
In post 1057, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 568, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: wgeurts

yeah i should have took my vote off postie apologies for that.
In post 587, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 568, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: wgeurts

yeah i should have took my vote off postie apologies for that.
Uh this vote is pretty bad, I don't know why you're voting a slot that hasn't posted right now?

You seem off this game now, you seem timid compared to other games
I looked a little harder.

This is the only Tchill13 post within those 200 posts.
The other is your response to it.

So this one post was enough for you to change completely how you feel on Tchill13.
And then later you do what you just complained to him for doing. Voting inactive slot. Not only that you push his activity as AI then admit you can’t prove it.
In post 799, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 795, Postie wrote:
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- Link me some games that show Tchill has a meta of lurking as scum?
Hm, I actually can't find any


There's still the matter of his actual posting looking different to where he is town, though

I'm kind of eyeing Cogito Ergo Sum and wondering if they're white knighting/defending scum and wondering if it's better to just go for them instead
After not being able to back those claims up you move on to a different claim that can’t be backed up.
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:36 pm

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llamarble why are you ignoring me?
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:36 pm

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In post 1078, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 1074, Srceenplay wrote:You guys are really frustrating.
I'm sorry I know him in real life and called him by his first name by mistake? This seems like a weird thing to get mad at me for...
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It’s not about that. It’s about being unreasonable with my replace in.
You guys are tunneled and it’s frustrating.
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:37 pm

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In post 1081, Thestatusquo wrote:llamarble why are you ignoring me?
He responded to you in his #1075 in the pedit.
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:38 pm

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In post 1080, Llamarble wrote:I think Davsto is an acceptable (maybe superior?) alternative to CES tomorrow in the event of a Tchill red flip.

I didn't like this post at all:
In post 1057, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 568, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: wgeurts

yeah i should have took my vote off postie apologies for that.
In post 587, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 568, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: wgeurts

yeah i should have took my vote off postie apologies for that.
Uh this vote is pretty bad, I don't know why you're voting a slot that hasn't posted right now?

You seem off this game now, you seem timid compared to other games
I looked a little harder.

This is the only Tchill13 post within those 200 posts.
The other is your response to it.

So this one post was enough for you to change completely how you feel on Tchill13.
And then later you do what you just complained to him for doing. Voting inactive slot. Not only that you push his activity as AI then admit you can’t prove it.
In post 799, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 795, Postie wrote:
@Dunn
- Link me some games that show Tchill has a meta of lurking as scum?
Hm, I actually can't find any


There's still the matter of his actual posting looking different to where he is town, though

I'm kind of eyeing Cogito Ergo Sum and wondering if they're white knighting/defending scum and wondering if it's better to just go for them instead
After not being able to back those claims up you move on to a different claim that can’t be backed up.
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Wtf is wrong with me asking questions about their progression into this slot?
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:39 pm

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In post 1080, Llamarble wrote:I think Davsto is an acceptable (maybe superior?) alternative to CES tomorrow in the event of a Tchill red flip.
This sounds as if you are saying you do have doubts about me flipping red.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:39 pm

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Shea what's your overall read on WGEURTZ/DAVSTO, please respond.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:41 pm

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Asking questions in general is fine; it's the way you did these ones. Not so much trying to help others see the light as preying on apparent inconsistencies.
To be fair it would be worse if he were the other wagon or something.

Of course I have doubts. There are 3 scum in a 15 player game. I am good at mafia, but cautiously optimistic is about the best I can be unless the dayplay goes AWESOME from town.
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:43 pm

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Do any of your teammates have any thoughts/comments on me?
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:44 pm

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In post 1086, Ranmaru wrote:Shea what's your overall read on WGEURTZ/DAVSTO, please respond.
It was vague town lean based on the beginning of davsto's catchup, but if you want me to reread it's gunna have to wait for tomorrow. I'm in bed and phone posting. wgeurtz is obviously null.

re: llamarbles read I was hoping for a little more than that.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:46 pm

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Yes I would like a re-read, thank you.
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:46 pm

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In post 1087, Llamarble wrote:Asking questions in general is fine; it's the way you did these ones. Not so much trying to help others see the light as preying on apparent inconsistencies.
To be fair it would be worse if he were the other wagon or something.

Of course I have doubts. There are 3 scum in a 15 player game. I am good at mafia, but cautiously optimistic is about the best I can be unless the dayplay goes AWESOME from town.
If you have doubts why are you ignoring the possibility of me being town.

I even heard unsalvageable. Don’t remember who said it but statements like that don’t imply doubt.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:48 pm

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In post 1087, Llamarble wrote:Asking questions in general is fine; it's the way you did these ones. Not so much trying to help others see the light as preying on apparent inconsistencies.
To be fair it would be worse if he were the other wagon or something.
He was the slot that I said I would iso.
So of course I would be looking for anything that stands out.
I saw something that I find curious and wanted his response to gauge his motivation.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:49 pm

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We've discussed it this game, but doubt is part of mafia. If we started every sentence with maybe, it would get annoying after a while. I've certainly considered the possibility of you being town; I spent plenty of time looking into LQ and Eddie and others. Even unvoted for a while. If you want us to unvote you, give us something compelling, show us a better way forward. If you're town, it usually shows eventually.
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:50 pm

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In post 963, Srceenplay wrote:It seems like Dunnstral meta read on Tchill13 is the wagon reasoning for this slot? Is that correct?

I will probably start by iso’inh him during lunch.
Didn’t make it at lunch. Had to do it after work.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:50 pm

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I said I didn't think you could salvage your slot.
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:50 pm

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I think I need to withdraw for tonight, I don't think investing more time is helping right now.
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:54 pm

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In post 1093, Llamarble wrote:If you want us to unvote you, give us something compelling, show us a better way forward. If you're town, it usually shows eventually.
This is what I’m trying to say to everyone.
When I look at someone you discredit me.
You are playing with a mind set that I’m being lynched no mater what.
Well I’m not going to.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:03 pm

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Finish catching up and give a full reads list.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:21 pm

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In post 1091, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1087, Llamarble wrote:Asking questions in general is fine; it's the way you did these ones. Not so much trying to help others see the light as preying on apparent inconsistencies.
To be fair it would be worse if he were the other wagon or something.

Of course I have doubts. There are 3 scum in a 15 player game. I am good at mafia, but cautiously optimistic is about the best I can be unless the dayplay goes AWESOME from town.
If you have doubts why are you ignoring the possibility of me being town.

I even heard unsalvageable. Don’t remember who said it but statements like that don’t imply doubt.
So about shea saying he had no doubt I would vote him...
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