Mini Normal 1988 (Endgame)

[Nero Cain]

if you think that than you clearly aren't reading. Like besides Leeoon, Archwing and Golden everyone else seems to be playing and contributing. Like I get that you are scum that's trying to make the crux of make case on you invalid but your not scumhunting and that's always going to land a player on the scummy side of the spectrum. Your repeated "there's not much to talk about" is just a front for you to do shit all this game. I'm lynching you.

[TwoInAMillion]

why bother then? Clearly you aren't interested in actually hearing anything I have to say.

[Nero Cain]

all I hear is excuses for not playing.

[Chumba]

Pretty much the entire playerbase is not scumhunting so no reason to single out me unless you're just randomly going after people.

That’s not true at all. There are some of us who are. Some who aren’t. That doesn’t excuse you. Don’t deflect

[TwoInAMillion]

I've been very busy. I'll try and post some content when I have the time. Otherwise you are gonna just have to take my word for it(or not). I don't really care.

[Luca Blight]

If you don't have time to play then:

1) replace out

2) don't join so many games in future

I also don't have a lot of time, hence why I'm only in one game at the moment. To join games and then not play, regardless of alignment, is just inconsiderate and ruins it for everyone else. Second guessing lurkers is the worst aspect of Mafia. It's not how the game should be played.

[Prism]

Sephiroth's vote and the "It's ridiculous to claim that nothing has happened" line was garbage. Two's posts aren't great play but there's nothing scummy about them and the tone is completely town. Tone isn't the end-all but he's absolutely not someone I want today. I've already been accused of chainsawing once, I don't want to get a mislynch only to have the fact that I defended them used against me later.

I'd vote Seph or Leon as my top 2 right now.

People I wouldn't vote today: Two, Bujaber, Chumba, Lalendra, I guess Luca/Nero.

I don't fucking know: Mozam, Roy,

I guess: Paradox, Arch, previously mentioned Seph/Leeon with a strong preference for Seph.

[Prism]

Chances are there's scum in Chumba/Luca/Nero/Moz despite their eagerness for the game and active participation, reason they're in the not lynch pile is because they can be sorted later and are going to be serious assets if they're town. Burning them early is a waste.

[Prism]

I imagine no one is going to want to go on Seph because people have essentially townread him for being active and asking basic questions, and I should go somewhere realistic. Let me know if anyone else is down but I should probably be looking for a second best guess rather than take the selfrighteous vote.

The "you're only upset because you're not in it" was oddly pointed. I don't think he has a terribly high chance of flipping scum but I'm not willing to risk any of Moz/Nero/Chumba/Luca right now.

VOTE: Leon

[Luca Blight]

Two has already claimed VT. If we're lynching a lurker then he is the safest bet for today.

[Prism]

I think he's comparatively more likely to be town, together with Bujaber. I don't care if he's not a PR. A mislynch is worth more.

Grill me for my two TRs coincidentally both being up there in the votecount but those are the works. Roy was a TR for awhile due to what I mentioned previously but I recall not liking him as much on reread and I still haven't tackled his main substance posts.

[Prism]

Eh reading it over Two's tone isn't quite as stellar as I thought. Little too over the head.

Two want to explain the Moz and Lalendra reads?

I need to be more proactive and thoughtful in this game instead of just giving it one hour spurts every 2 days. Not an effective way of getting reads at all.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 1.6

Sephiroth(0)

Prism(0)

BuJaber(2)TheGoldenParadox, TwoInAMillion

TwoInAMillion(4) Nero Cain, Luca Blight, Archwing, Sephiroth

Leeoon(1) Prism

Chumba(0)

mozamis(0)

Nero Cain(0)

Roy Tagliaferro(4) Chumba, BuJaber, Lalendra, Leeoon

Lalendra(0)

Luca Blight(0)

Archwing(0)

TheGoldenParadox(1) mozamis,

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(1): Roy Tagliaferro,

With 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-02-04 05:20:00) or when a lynch is achieved.

[TheGoldenParadox]

Emergencies. Compromises.
My lynch pool today is [bu, two, Seph]
I'm hapy with my vote where it is right now.

[BuJaber]

I'm suspicious of any reads this early on tbh, this still feels like RVS to me.

feel free to talk more about my 49

I liked your 49.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lalendra

What did you like about it? How is the vote on me relevant to you liking it?

I liked it because it was direct and moves the game forward. I liked it because I also felt Roy's stressing over deadline literally within hours of day starting seems overeager. I liked it because he didn't just pick one person to accuse. I liked it because he question's Leon following what reads to me as the first vote out of RVS.

You however seemed dismissive of his post which implies you don't like the questioning of Roy and Leon.
It's a subtle way to defend them and that I find suspicious this early.

I'm on the phone so excuse me for not using quotes.

About Seph: Sure I see it but I don't think that is AI, particularly from Seph. Though obviously if I'm wrong and neither Lalendra or you are scum that makes my read of the game state really lopsided.

As for my read on you: apart from the scum vibe I got from her first post and your first post, I am also getting low-key defense of Roy & Leon. I am inducing that one of you/lalendra is scum and if so one of Roy/Leon is scum.

However that is not to say that if you are in fact town and Lalendra is somehow town that that automatically means Roy/Leon are inno obviously. I could be way off on the associatives.

As for my read on you: apart from the scum vibe I got from her first post and your first post, I am also getting low-key defense of Roy & Leon. I am inducing that one of you/lalendra is scum and if so one of Roy/Leon is scum.

Me and Lalendra haven't associated at all. I don't know what associatives you're getting from us here, other than a complete absence: in which case the same could be said of say, me and TwoInAMillion.

I'm mainly just looking for it to be explicit whether these are completely independent scumreads or you think there's a link between them. The way you're phrasing it it seems like if Lalendra is scum, I'm probably town, and that seems nonsensical given what we have so far.

I am also getting low-key defense of Roy & Leon

I mean, Roy, sure, but you directly asked me about Leon and I stated that I haven't found his only meaningful/action indicative, and that there's a clear incentive for him to make them as town. (I think the scum motive is pretty obvious). I'm not sure what reaction

other

than scumreading Leon wouldn't meet this qualification. It seems to run into the same problem if you had asked me about literally anyone else that I didn't scumread.

Okay 1. Sure maybe from your pov it's nonsensical. But to lay it down more clearly: Right now I think there is a strong possibility of finding scum between Roy & Leon, but not both. I could vote for one then the other but a) the first lynch would be a coin flip. And b) if I'm wrong about both I'm basing ny entire scumhunting approach on this theory which means I'm probably missing other evidence and I could end up going after two townies. To mitigate this I want to look elsewhere first and see if it still makes sense for one of them to be scum.

Lalentra and your posts stood out. If one of you is scum I would be even more convinced that one of Roy/Leon is. But again I can't imagine a scumteam would have a pretty similar reaction to Roy/Leon so I'm ruling out that you both are scum.

However your reaction to my question about Leon plus the above quote shows me you are not going after easy targets (I think it's easy for scum to jump early on leon as a lynch here). So you're back to a nullread for me. At the very least it shows me you're not a noob scum.

Me dropping prism back to a nullread there makes lalendra more likely to be scum from my pov.

I'm suspicious of any reads this early on tbh, this still feels like RVS to me.

My suspicion is based on this.
If this is the truth why post it at all?

Like it isn't even clear who's reads she's referring to. Everyone's? If you don't have early reads doesn't mean others can't. I just don't see why it's suspicious. And even more importantly I don't see why town would even say this at all especially in such a vague and general way. It felt like she's dismissing an early read without specifiying which so as to not expose a partner.

Like if you think I'm scum, just vote me now and you'll have 6 pages of info and associatives going into day 2. But I guarantee that while I'm not the worst lynch, I'm definitely not the best.

Yes can we lynch lalendra?

The above are my posts talking about I scumread Lalendra. I tried to clean up the quotes. Sorry if I messed any up. The last one was because she herself admitted she wouldn't be a bad lynch just not the best. As far as I'm concerned this either a scumclaim or VT claim.

There is an easy way to prove all of this. If Lalendra joins your wagon on me it confirms every read I've had all day. Roy will probably vote elsewhere coz he's the 'wildcard' who's job is to distract the town from you two so he'll probably distance himself.

Not sure I understand the point of stating this, as you've now made it WIFOM. i.e., if I vote you, your SR on me is confirmed; if I don't, you might have townread me if this wasn't stated, but now you can't because I might just be scum who is aware of this post and not wanting to confirm your SR of me? And self-voting is a bad play. If you're not scum, stop being anti-town.

Whether you vote or not doesn't help me either way. It's reactions like these I can get more out of. I actually don't think scum would make this point at this moment. They'd just vote/not vote and if they got heat from that they'd then discredit me. For what it's worth I like this post and the tone I'm reading.

So that's all the stuff on lalendra requoted.

I want roy lynched. D1 luking is NAI let's not lynch TIAM yet.

[Chumba]

Emergencies. Compromises.
My lynch pool today is [bu, two, Seph]
I'm hapy with my vote where it is right now.

Deadline is later today. You are parked on a wagon that isn’t likely to happen. You have to pick somebody else to prevent a NL. If we NL I will lynch you tomorrow

[Luca Blight]

TIAM and Roy are clearly the two lynch candidates for today and no-one should be voting anyone but them at this point.

I'm still of the belief that TIAM is as good a lynch as any, and is minimal risk given they've already claimed VT.

[Roy Tagliaferro]

Still not a big fan of Bu or Leeoon. Bu, thanks for your post - I do think you could do with stronger reasons, but okay, it explains stuff. I don't think her comment about being a good lynch is necessarily a contra town claim - perhaps if she's being a liability to the town, lynching her clears that up, maybe even uncovers some connections and all the like.

I'll settle for TIAM who's still also in my lynch pool. Lurking isn't helping and not helping town = bad. We need to get the votes in though before we have a no lynch. VOTE: TIAM

[Sephiroth]

I think the following are town: Archwing, Luca, Nero Cain, Chumba, Buj (tentative), lalendra (tentative)

I think the scum will be found in: TIAM, Prism, Roy, paradox, moz, leeon

So I'm happy with my TIAM vote. Especially since TIAM shows no interest in engaging with the game and preclaimed VT.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm interested I just don't see the point if I'm going to be lynched anyways.

I'll try to post some content in a bit today.

[Sephiroth]

Deadline is looming. Please do it ASAP

[TwoInAMillion]

Honestly I think you have a good town block going that has a good chance of leading to a town win. There are some players that are obviously pro town.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think Paradox is the best choice for a lynch today. I know commenting on his lurking is a double standard but I know I am green from my role pm.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

[TheGoldenParadox]

but I know I am green from my role pm.

VOTE: TwoInAMillion