Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over

Dunkerdoodles · Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:04 am

In post 2094, Radja wrote:really? You'd kill a claimed VT on night 1? Especially someone who got wagoned a LOT during day 1?

True

Bins · Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:05 am

In post 2095, Mathdino wrote:Loyal

OH I'm the special person?
Yeah I have nothing.

Guess you're scum then

Elena Fisher · Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:05 am

In post 2099, Mathdino wrote:
In post 2097, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 2095, Mathdino wrote:So Bins, to be clear, you're telling me you received nothing last night?

Loyal
why would you claim this so fast
any loyal role serves as a creator of guilties

If this really is your role you should've just softed it and pushed bins slowly

Dunkerdoodles · Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:05 am

Oooo thunderdome
This should be fun

Bins · Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:07 am

In post 2097, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 2095, Mathdino wrote:So Bins, to be clear, you're telling me you received nothing last night?

Loyal
why would you claim this so fast

Because it's likely not true.
1) It's a really strong role. It's a gambit, or whatever. Like who says "I never lie" lol.
2) Two Loyals in team Mafia? Nice.

In post 2098, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 2091, Bins wrote:
In post 2087, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 2082, Bins wrote:(but Marquis mentioned to me that CBD having 0 presence is scummy).
That's a remarkably lukewarm take from somebody who's played a non-trivial number of games with me (including the last Team Mafia game, to which I think a lot of parallels can be drawn).
It's the only thing Marquis has contributed aside from "Elena would pick scum."
He isn't reading. He just asked me if you were posting a lot and I said "Not really" and he said "Could be coasting" or along that line.
Seems like a super valuable opinion to have shared with the group then, thanks for that.

Your relationship to LLD did not seem like buddying though, so I guess this was unhelpful rather than malicious. You maintained a much heavier level of paranoia about her than I would expect from a bus, and had doubts about the scumlean at times when I would have expected doubt to exist. So you're town.

Well, I haven't seen you do much other than vote park on LLD for one reason and I mentioned to Marquis and he still said it was in the realm of possibility. I guess I could ask him to ISO you but I'm really not interested in pushing it.

Mathdino · Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:08 am

Great.

I don't have a modifier. Note under my hardclaim that I only hardclaimed Fruit Vendor, and never actually claimed Loyal.

I vended to A50 because I knew he was the only one that understood my gambits enough to keep quiet. Me and A50 being buddy cops every game we play together should be proof enough of that.

I can confirm myself tonight and I'm obviously not gonna be today's lynch, but I'm comfortable calling Bins town.

VOTE: CDB
while I figure out reads

Keychain · Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:09 am

Elena Fisher wrote:You think I can be scum with LLD? *pouts*
time to re read
VOTE: Titus
atm

Absolutely

VOTE: Elena Fisher

A50 could have been a vig kill and the scum kill could have been blocked.

Leave Bins alone (aaaa gambits too early in the morning ;-;), Titus is still town forever, Elena is scum with LLD.

Dunkerdoodles · Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:10 am

Wtfffff
VOTE: math
To express my frustration

ISO · Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:10 am

Sheesh, way to wipe out any credibility you had entering the day.

Mathdino · Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:10 am

Did some mod meta and there's a shitton of town fruit vendors all over the place. Anyone who decides to lynch me on that gambit knowing I can confirm my role (role not alignment I know) is actually an idiot.

So the weird associations to figure out are EddieTranscendTitus/LLD and Elena/LLD. If we're supposing either is scum, that's a lot of scum theatre. My team and I ruled those teams out but I wanna see arguments on them.

Edit: Dunker I had such hope for you D2 lol

Elena Fisher · Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:11 am

I don't see how I can be scum with LLD but I'm obv bias I mean LLD didn't even know who I was. I could go into a bunch of "this doesn't come from partners" but wifom.

Oh wait I forgot Titus was Skirt
UNVOTE:
hrm

Elena Fisher · Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:12 am

I am somewhat stuck here

ISO · Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:12 am

Vote: Mathdino

Dunkerdoodles · Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:12 am

In post 2112, T-Bone wrote:
Vote: Mathdino

Good man

Mathdino · Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:12 am

It was the correct gambit. I was fishing for Bins reading into the modifier, assuming with her scumteam that I'm Loyal, and claiming she received fruit. Doing so would've been a scumclaim that I could've had verified by A50.

I'm either a Town Fruit Vendor or a Mafia Fruit Vendor. I have NEVER faked a hardclaim as town. I'm not Firebringer/Mulch/Transcend. I don't intend to wipe my hardclaim credibility.

Would like reads on Bins reaction. I'm going with town.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:13 am

In post 2104, Bins wrote:Well, I haven't seen you do much other than vote park on LLD for one reason and I mentioned to Marquis and he still said it was in the realm of possibility. I guess I could ask him to ISO you but I'm really not interested in pushing it.

This isn't me saying 'my play has been too good for Marquis to have that read', it's that the premise of the read ('CDB being largely unmoored and not pushing too much in the thread is scum coasting') is flawed, and Marquis should know that. You're also framing it differently in this post ("in the realm of possibility") than you did when you first described it ("Marquis mentioned that CDB having 0 presence is scummy"), and I probably wouldn't have snarked about it if you had originally framed it in the former manner, because the former is a more nuanced way to be wrong (which he nonetheless is, but it's at least understandable). I'm not going to ask you to push it any further right now, but if my lynch becomes a serious possibility then you should probably ask Marquis to compare this game to Signs and Void.

Elena Fisher · Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:13 am

In post 2112, T-Bone wrote:
Vote: Mathdino

I want to vote this too but my whole team thinks Math is town.

Radja · Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 am

wtf is going on. Dino, find your brain and make sense please.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 am

@All:

I'm reading ISOs but I'm yet to have read in full the last segment of Day 1, which I will most certainly be doing once I've examined all the LLD angles individually but would someone mind please giving me the bullet points on what claims are apparently out there? The Mathdino stuff is news to me.

ISO · Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:15 am

Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 2112, T-Bone wrote:
Vote: Mathdino
I want to vote this too but my whole team thinks Math is town.

Yeah well, mostly he needs to slow his roll...since he just claimed to have targeted the night kill, and proceeded to trash any credibility he might have had as the counterwagon to Fitz. I also am of the belief that Titus isn't the lynch today, hence why I have let loose.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:16 am

Re: said ISOs, I guess y'all were right about Keychain's meta, because I struggle to see that slot being an LLD buddy. It's possible, but for someone with only 40-odd posts it would be really weird for such a proportionally high amount of her posting being a very flat 'my team says kill this with fire' kinda vibe.

Mathdino · Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:16 am

I'm alive because I hardcrumbed that I would 1v1 Bins today. See my end of day. This gambit was planned from the moment I decided to try to dodge the NK by reverse pocketing Bins.

A50 was likely killed because
1. He was my hardest defender
2. Brings suspicion onto Bins (A50 being alive wouldn't actually successfully push Bins so)
3. I would never have let him get lynched

Other than that, I don't see any obvious NKA suspects.

I'm working with the assumption that there was a token busser and a token counterwagoner. I had a ton of sitechat with KMD about this but he's not online so I can't pull up his fkin chatlog -_-

Brb recreating that VCA

Radja · Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:17 am

as far as I know the only claim out there was A50's VT claim.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #2123 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:18 am

In post 2122, Radja wrote:as far as I know the only claim out there was A50's VT claim.

Ah, OK, cheers; the fast-paced nature of this daystart may have made me think I saw some prior context that apparently wasn't there.

Radja · Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:18 am

In post 2121, Mathdino wrote:I'm alive because I hardcrumbed that I would 1v1 Bins today. See my end of day. This gambit was planned from the moment I decided to try to dodge the NK by reverse pocketing Bins.

A50 was likely killed because
1. He was my hardest defender
2. Brings suspicion onto Bins (A50 being alive wouldn't actually successfully push Bins so)
3. I would never have let him get lynched

Other than that, I don't see any obvious NKA suspects.

I'm working with the assumption that there was a token busser and a token counterwagoner. I had a ton of sitechat with KMD about this but he's not online so I can't pull up his fkin chatlog -_-

Brb recreating that VCA

can you stop with #3 already, you're not the only one playing this game. And wtf does #1 even mean as a reason to kill A50?