Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over

[Maki Harukawa]

VOTE: key
hrm

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: key
hrm

boop

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: key
just incase

[Mathdino]

Also the fact that Raybells swapped into Inventions and not here despite explicitly wanting to play a normal (from sign-ups) heavily implies Keychain is actually just town. Willing to consider counter-arguments but I think is sound.

Yo Elena, why doesn't Raybells just swap into this game if he wants to swap into a scumgame?

[Mathdino]

Honestly my read on Keychain is almost 80% meta-based. On one hand she prefers town and RC/Fire/Postie are all more likely to go scum... but on the other hand RC being this suddenly invested in the game is really weird. It's like he's been masking her playstyle.

She's hard to read in isolation IMO. RC playing so much really doesn't help. Who in this tournament has Keychain experience?

[Keychain]

Oh I think I missed chesskid in the readslist, he's also maybe scum, maybe less likely though based on team comp.

I still don't think Elena is scum, so Keychain, be the voice of this read...why?

Sorry the reason I'm essentially just channelling RC right now is because I haven't really been free since daystart to actually think. I'll be around later for actual thoughts and stuff.

For now: did you check my ISO? I don't like repeating things, it's just noise. The main damning factor is her interactions with LLD, I posted a quote in particular that suggests LLD knew Elena was scum. Some players seem to consider them clearing but they're kind of the opposite. My scumread of her independently had waned towards the end of the day, but with an LLD flip she's top priority lynch material again.

(also an apology to Fitz, who owned the slot when it was lynched, but LLD was the bulk of it <3)

@Keychain:

Gotta love RC's style of "everyone against me is scum". Does he think the scumteam is LLD/Elena/Math? Or does he think that I'm defending Elena because I know she's town already? And in that case, has he literally not read my defences of her? gerry townflip objectively makes Elena more likely town.
Literally the more RC is invested in this game the scummier your slot is. IDK what you're even doing. And his lack of a Dunker townread is bad in itself.

do you think the fact that he died in his game might have something to do with his sudden investment
gerry was less likely to take scum in his opinion, also that is of very little interest to me right now
See above - I'm in class right now ffs, I had a meeting at lunch, you'll get me when I get home and like I said, this hardline style is not exactly how I like to do things

VOTE: key
just incase

Let's chat when I get home <3

[Elena Fisher]

Also the fact that Raybells swapped into Inventions and not here despite explicitly wanting to play a normal (from sign-ups) heavily implies Keychain is actually just town. Willing to consider counter-arguments but I think is sound.

Yo Elena, why doesn't Raybells just swap into this game if he wants to swap into a scumgame?

It's already been stated why

[Elena Fisher]

Let's chat when I get home <3

of course <3

[Mathdino]

I don't think you had as much to do with any of those things as you think you did.

also agree

going through your iso there is very little mention on LLD and what there is is mostly townreads (from what i can see)

you also locktowned her at one point if i remember correctly

I forgot to respond to this, and this actually deserves a response.

I locked LLD out of the lynchpool because lynching LLD would be a hassle that would potentially shut the game down due to her AtE (I wanted an invest on her more than a lynch), and because town LLD was too much of an asset to risk losing. For most of LLD's presence, my team was confused as fuck on how to read her, and mostly gave up on trying. Once fitz replaced in, all those reasons went out the window. You should be able to see the context; once we needed wagon consolidation and the wagons were me, Titus, and fitz, I hated the Titus wagon and started pushing fitz.

fitz OMGUSing me and getting 0 support from his team basically confirmed the slot as scum.

Tbh I wasn't as clear about this as I maybe should've been. I was afraid to say "Hey so I'm powerlynching LLD's slot only now that LLD is gone because I was too intimidated/scared to go after LLD" because if that slot flipped town, it would be my head on a D2 platter. But with the scumflip I'm pretty comfortable being open about my overall D1 strategy.

[chesskid3]

I think wagon apathy day 1 is explained by 2 of the major wagons being on scum.

Thoughts?

[chesskid3]

also mathdino be quiet you only get to post 777 times if you're chesskid thanks

[Mathdino]

I'm trying to think of what Tituscum would do in the situation of her and her scumbuddy being the main wagons. Cuz Titus decided to go full vanity wagon and actively refused to join her own counterwagon. And under her own VCA, that's scummy as fuck.

I think wagon apathy was caused by scum not helping us lynch fitz, and the fact that half the game hard-townread me and half hard-townread Titus's slot. This is true regardless of Titus's actual alignment.

[chesskid3]

No that's not how scum apathy works

now let's practice shushing and letting someone else talk to chesskid

[Bins]

Bins, if you're townreading me, please sheep me. Math, you're making things really bloody difficult for town and furthering scum wincon more than the town one. Titus he thinks you're being super misguided right now.

I'm on Elena yeah

[Bins]

I think wagon apathy day 1 is explained by 2 of the major wagons being on scum.

Thoughts?

Titus?

[chesskid3]

vc soonish

Votecount 1.10

Titus (5)

Bulbazak , T-Bone , UC Voyager , Aeronaut , Almost50 ,

Titus (4)

T-Bone , UC Voyager , Aeronaut , Almost50 ,

havingfitz (3)

Keychain , ChannelDelibird , Mathdino ,

Mathdino (3)

havingfitz , Elena Fisher , Radja ,

Elena Fisher (1)

Bins ,

Almost50 (2)

Dunkerdoodles , Titus ,

Almost50 (3)

Bulbazak , Dunkerdoodles , Titus ,

Not Voting (1)

chesskid3 ,

Day one deadline is Sunday February 4, 9 PM PST. (expired on 2018-02-04 21:00:00)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch!

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talk me thru this VC, bins, with Titus and fitz scum

[Bins]

considering im townreading everyone on both wagons



mathdino was legit counterwagon

[Bins]

Votecount 1.09

Titus (4)

Bulbazak , T-Bone , UC Voyager , Bins ,

havingfitz (2)

Keychain , ChannelDelibird ,

Bins (2)

Mathdino , Almost50 ,

Mathdino (4)

Titus , havingfitz , Dunkerdoodles , Elena Fisher ,

Almost50 (1)

Radja ,

Not Voting (2)

Aeronaut , chesskid3 ,

Day one deadline is Sunday February 4, 9 PM PST. (expired on 2018-02-04 21:00:00)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch!

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also an example

[chesskid3]

I feel like that's more likely to implicate someone ON the fitz wagon there

Titus (4)T-Bone , UC Voyager , Aeronaut , Almost50 ,

Or like..dunker/bulbs.

[Mathdino]

quick correction
titus and fitz were both lolvoting me at that point
dunker and elena took it as their opportunity to jump on

also how are you townreading CDB

[chesskid3]

Mathdino I thought you were practicing shushing

[Mathdino]

i can state basic questions and corrections

i'm not pushing anyone around or stating opinions

[chesskid3]

Fine, deal.

[Bins]

CDB is not one of my bottom 3 rn

[T-Bone]

SNIP

I knew about your idea of the LLD/Elena connection, I wanted to see what else stood out to you, if anything. If nothing else, that's fine, not everything a player does is alignment indicative.