Valentine's Dance - [GAME OVER]

[Gamma Emerald]

Ali please respond

to what

I asked what you thought about me since I also suspected KO and Haram at one point

[beeboy]

I am kinda considering leaving just to prove myself as town because I feel like my townflip gets you lynched.

errrrrrrr
don't?

[Maki Harukawa]

I don't see why scum Venmar draws as much attention to himself as he has and like gunning for anti tbh like maybe he's got more balls then I thought but like....
Shire slot and gamma slot are alive

So he would get townread.

His emotion would need to be fake for that to be the case and it doesn't feel fake to me.
Also fuck me UP fire

Why is gamma town ty can still see that slot flipping scum and I have only been wrong on Gamma once in my mafiascum life

Hmm, last time Maki/Claire/Maria tried to put this much importance on their read on me was as scum in mini 1850, so this is making me distrustful

You're not wrong tbh

[Firebringer]

His emotion would need to be fake for that to be the case and it doesn't feel fake to me.

No it wouldn’t

[Maki Harukawa]

It's ok to be wrong

[Firebringer]

That’s my line sweetheart

[chesskid3]

considering

[Antihero]

i scumread you before you insulted me

not gonna fly

i did say i didn't like you as an ic, but i wouldn't call that as an attack and I do recall you insulted me yourself before i told you you were "trash". i don't snap at people for no reason

no don't pull that thread

you didn't make any good faith effort to try to get anything out of me as an IC you just launched into "sitting on hands" and "gosh anti is such a trash person to have to have as your IC"

act like a dick all you want but own it. don't insult my intelligence by saying you weren't really poking me in the eye with that

[Firebringer]

Own ur asshole behavior and no one can really call u out on it

[Firebringer]

Own ur asshole behavior and no one can really call u out on it

@this is at everyone, especially maki

[Firebringer]

That’s a joke maki

[Maki Harukawa]

WTF I FEEL SO ATTACKED RN

[Venmar]

btw this is Venmar's Rebuttle

"hey, so uh, i know i pursued an objectively weak, opportunistic attack, and that i am now scummy for it, but you don't get to criticise me for being scummy and doing scummy things, so that makes you scum"
oh ok, sorry

:scumposting:

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so alisae's blatant discrediting as the only form of attack is laughable. i don't think harmabey being new (which i didnt know and i don't care) or koki being lynchable excuse their play or discredit mine, just how much i think that alisae taking the easy, grand-standing point of view of defending the NEWBIE and the POOR LYNCHABLE TOWNIE is equally lamentable. actually fuck off

also note how this was the first and last time that i even mentioned haram, in what i deem a throwaway reads post, and alisae decided to just roll with it as me ATTACKING A NEWBIE (it is time to stop)

Also :scumposting:

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main issue i have with this is that alisae is exploiting the fact that i elaborated on my scumread but not on the posts that i cited. it let's alisae make a lot of assumptions on my behalf and it looks really neat on paper, because she can discredit the entirety of the bolded by attacking the posts i didn't elaborate on.

the town mindset would've been to prod me for why i thought those posts were specifically scummy

, the opportunistic mindset is to say fuck it.

in reality i will also say that what i did there and do with most of my reads is that most of my reads are gut-based and then i try to back it up with some reasoning (bolded) and what my gut reacted to (the four listed posts are examples of said posts). a lot of people have an adverse reaction to this aspect of my playstyle because of that and quite frankly i don't care.

Lets look at the post again

332 - I fail to understand why the post is bad.

Venmar is flipping scum.

also like i don't even understand this post? alisae is literally just discrediting and handwaving everything i said with ":scumposting:", and then on the last point if anyone interprets "332 - I fail to understand why the post is bad" as a contradiction to the bolded i will fucking eat a shoe. i think the context clearly dictates it as alisae dismissing 332 as townie rather than alisae asking me a question, and that's how interpreted that and continue to do so.

i do think that alisae's stance on me went from wanting to talk to me/pairing with me to vehemently attacking me which is an interesting character arc. i will also point out that it makes perfect sense for scum-alisae, who has already once bragged about kokichi flipping town, to button down and hard-push and attack me for attacking kokichi if scum-alisae knows that kokichi is flipping town. it makes me look bad once kokichi flips town and alisae can coast on that fact alone. townreading/defending kokichi wasn't exactly THE MOST common sentiment as far as my minimum-reading memory serves me, and alisae was the only one that felt the need to openly attack me over it. in my eyes it definitely reeks of a scum agenda

[beeboy]

Hey Maki I think you should invest in a Chesskid vote.

[Maki Harukawa]

Spoiler:

Pedit: Why do you sr Chess? If I was gonna vote that pair it'd be more for eli then it would be for chess

[Venmar]

ok honestly
I am kinda considering leaving just to prove myself as town because I feel like my townflip gets you lynched.
I ALSO scumread Joey (surprise sekret read) btw

literally do it, i will treat it as a victory

[Firebringer]

Venmar u can like...try to idk.
Not up the aggresion

[Maki Harukawa]

Dunn is prob scum btw
just thought everyone should know

[chesskid3]

Spoiler:

Pedit: Why do you sr Chess? If I was gonna vote that pair it'd be more for eli then it would be for chess

elli is mine to read in PT thanks

[Antihero]

His emotion would need to be fake for that to be the case and it doesn't feel fake to me.

his emotion would not need to be fake he can genuinely not like me as either alignment

i am looking forward to the chess thunderdome

[Firebringer]

Dunn is prob scum btw
just thought everyone should know

This is what u said in the turbo when u were scum and acting just like this game.

[beeboy]

Dunn is prob scum btw
just thought everyone should know

Don't you dare bomb him.

[Maki Harukawa]

Like I almost wanna reconsider Alisae cause I sr half the list
Fire team needs to die
gamma team needs to die
my team prob needs to die
Alisae prob needs to die after
I think that's where all scum are

[Ellibereth]

part of why I'm here is to see couples blow up at each other.

[Maki Harukawa]

Dunn is prob scum btw
just thought everyone should know

This is what u said in the turbo when u were scum and acting just like this game.

point?

Dunn is prob scum btw
just thought everyone should know

Don't you dare bomb him.

Tempting