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[Creature]

So we'll be informed when one groupie is recruited?

[TheGoldenParadox]

Drealz games =

1- Pay attention
2- Don't assume
3- Work together
4- When in doubt, ask the mod via PM

I refuse. I just goddamn want to have some fun.

[TheGoldenParadox]

ANYONE WHO IS NOT A VIRGIN OR A TRANSLYVANIAN IS IMMUNE TO RECRUITMENT

which actually goes against what was said in signups that most people wouldn't know if they were recruitable unless recruited
so i don't understand this
is the mod lying or what

[Inferno390]

@Inferno:

I would like to inform all of you that

only Virgins may be recruited

Hello?!!

Okay, I completely missed this. My bad.

[Varsoon]

I've asked plenty about my role.
As far as I know, I have not been explicitly told in my role or through PM answers about my role that I am immune to recruitment.
I've assumed I am, so I tried to bait recruits for awhile, but, eh, couldn't care less anymore.

[Inferno390]

Well, in that case, CL is screwed because even if they hit every recruit from here on out, there are not enough virgins left to catchup with immunized unless one cult straight up dies.
Because I just realized: "groupie=cult?"

[Gamma Emerald]

ANYONE WHO IS NOT A VIRGIN OR A TRANSLYVANIAN IS IMMUNE TO RECRUITMENT

which actually goes against what was said in signups that most people wouldn't know if they were recruitable unless recruited
so i don't understand this
is the mod lying or what

Wait so transylvanians are recruitable? How the hell do you know?

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean the opening modpost says groupie = cult recruit

[JaydragonKing]

Well let's just go under the assumption that "If your based off a human, you can get fucked", where as someone like me, a music amplifier, and Cerberus, who's a goddamn elevator, can't get recruited.

Are we all fine with that logic?

[Inferno390]

I mean the opening modpost says groupie = cult recruit

Okay, so apparently I've not been paying nearly enoguh attention.
We do know now that one of the CL failed ot recuit last cycle if that's the case.

I am totally dow nfor a massclaim.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well let's just go under the assumption that "If your based off a human, you can get fucked", where as someone like me, a music amplifier, and Cerberus, who's a goddamn elevator, can't get recruited.

Are we all fine with that logic?

okay then
And I could do massclaim, not like it can hurt town that much

[Cerberus v666]

I've asked plenty about my role.
As far as I know, I have not been explicitly told in my role or through PM answers about my role that I am immune to recruitment.
I've assumed I am, so I tried to bait recruits for awhile, but, eh, couldn't care less anymore.

Yep. That's about where I was when I claimed my role, and it's why I actually forgot about this game and didn't check it for...like...the longest period of time I've ever gone without checking a mafia game.

[Almost50]

So we'll be informed when one groupie is recruited?

It looks like it, but we get informed in the mid-day update (or maybe after the "greenhouse action" resolves)

[mutantdevle]

Why is town morale so damn low? Sure, most of us are in the dark, but we are in a good position (I think).

We are now aware that we will all get the following information / have the following power every day:

- We can vote to immunise someone (doesn't mean they are town, but it confirms their alignment as locked).
- 1 or 2 extra people are immunised based on something to do with Creature.
- We learn how many recruits there was by the cults.

On top of this, we know also know that:
- Jay has a PR that could clear people as vanilla but also has a chance of placing suspicion on others whilst blocking potential recruitments in the process.
- Chickadee is a vig so can kill the scummies. (Jay blocking her is good and bad, bad because no kill, good because Chick's role claim either guarantees Porken and Vecna as vanilla or narrows the scum search down if Jay gets a successful block).
- Cerberus is a jailkeeper and can prevent recruitments also.
- Only 1 cult was successful in recruiting.
- Several people have also soft claimed some PRs

So, idk, I don't get why everyone is feeling down and powerless. We are in a strong position. Our power may not be our vote to lynch people, but we still have the power of our voice. How about we start using that to scum hunt a little more and help the PRs game solve?

[mutantdevle]

Well let's just go under the assumption that "If your based off a human, you can get fucked", where as someone like me, a music amplifier, and Cerberus, who's a goddamn elevator, can't get recruited.

Are we all fine with that logic?

I agree with this and I'd like to emphasise it. If anyone else has a PR that isn't human, assume you are immune to recruitments.

[mutantdevle]

@Inferno:

I would like to inform all of you that

only Virgins may be recruited

Hello?!!

Okay, I completely missed this. My bad.

To be honest, I don't think this meant virgin as in the role virgin. More that people have a status of virgin that not everyone is going to know. I think there might be some PRs that are recruitable. I do think that we should be assuming that the people we are told about losing their virginity are in fact henceforth immune to recruitments. However, I do not think we should be so quick to assume that they, therefore, town aligned as I don't think it's been officially stated anyway that cult members lose their virginity.

[Almost50]

I still STRONGLY disagree with Jay/Cerb considered Town. Why would they be?

1- The mod confirmed one recruitment to have successfully resolved. Why can't it be these particular two?
2- There is no mod confirmation of their actions nor is there one to confirm their roles exist. Why should we blindly believing them?
3- Jay's 1083 is sus as anything. Why is he ONLY buying Cerb's of all claimed PRs?

Porkens claimed a PR. Vecna claimed a PR. Varsoon claimed a PR. Chikadee claimed a PR. That's SIX claims by my count, aside from those who have crumbed or hinted it. And we only started with 6 of them, so...

[Cerberus v666]

Why is town morale so damn low? Sure, most of us are in the dark, but we are in a good position (I think).

We are now aware that we will all get the following information / have the following power every day:

- We can vote to immunise someone (doesn't mean they are town, but it confirms their alignment as locked).
- 1 or 2 extra people are immunised based on something to do with Creature.
- We learn how many recruits there was by the cults.

On top of this, we know also know that:
- Jay has a PR that could clear people as vanilla but also has a chance of placing suspicion on others whilst blocking potential recruitments in the process.
- Chickadee is a vig so can kill the scummies. (Jay blocking her is good and bad, bad because no kill, good because Chick's role claim either guarantees Porken and Vecna as vanilla or narrows the scum search down if Jay gets a successful block).
- Cerberus is a jailkeeper and can prevent recruitments also.
- Only 1 cult was successful in recruiting.
- Several people have also soft claimed some PRs

So, idk, I don't get why everyone is feeling down and powerless. We are in a strong position. Our power may not be our vote to lynch people, but we still have the power of our voice. How about we start using that to scum hunt a little more and help the PRs game solve?

Because even if you're winning, if you're not having fun there's no value in the game...and I, for one, am not having fun.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, something I just thought of:

That update Drealmerz put out? He probably does it after all actions have been taken, so that way the information doesn't inform the actions taken. That's the only rational explanation for doing it partway through the day. He wants it to inform the immunization, but not action submissions. I'ts possible that it happens after x action is submitted as well, or x+y action set, etc.

[mutantdevle]

In 1088, when I say " Several people have also soft claimed some PRs" I count the people who have not specifically stated what their role does in that bracket since we don't know any more information than that. As for blindly following PR claims, you've taught me that you should definitely do that until there is hard evidence to suggest otherwise. I know your reads are more reliable than mine, but still. I don't think role claims should be questioned until we get a 7th. I find Jay's claim especially believable since I really don't think she'd be making it up. She has made us aware that she'll be 'investigating' 3 people per day and if she ever gives us a false result then we could easily find out, or rather, if she is a lying cult player, the other cult could easily find out through their recruitments.

And I thought 1083 was just her using Cerb's role as a basis for her theory that non-human PRs are immune from recruitment, I don't think it was about which role claims she did and didn't believe. Though it does beg the question why she would ignore Varsoon claiming that he is probably recruit immune.


Also @Almost, not sure if you answered this already, but I want to ask again anyway just to be absolutely clear: Did you receive a PM saying you were immune after you were hammered? I'm assuming not since I recall a post where you were asking PRs to affect you in some way to get a PM.

[mutantdevle]

Oh, something I just thought of:

That update Drealmerz put out? He probably does it after all actions have been taken, so that way the information doesn't inform the actions taken. That's the only rational explanation for doing it partway through the day. He wants it to inform the immunization, but not action submissions. I'ts possible that it happens after x action is submitted as well, or x+y action set, etc.

I was assuming Creature was responsible for when this happens since both messages involved him. But your theory would definitely make sense.


@Creature, could you give us some official clarification? Are you a PR causing these immunisations to happen? You said you weren't yesterplay and I can understand you lying then, but now I think you should speak up if you know anything to clear the confusion.

[drealmerz7]

we are now in PAUSE

(resolving actions)

[Creature]

@Creature, could you give us some official clarification? Are you a PR causing these immunisations to happen? You said you weren't yesterplay and I can understand you lying then, but now I think you should speak up if you know anything to clear the confusion.

No, I just started out as ITT.

[mutantdevle]

There are so many things that we can assume right now, but I think that the one we need to avoid is:
JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT VIRGINS DOES NOT MEAN THEY CAN"T BE RECRUITED. Because if that's not true, Cult is basically screwed right now.

Well, in that case, CL is screwed because even if they hit every recruit from here on out, there are not enough virgins left to catchup with immunized unless one cult straight up dies.
Because I just realized: "groupie=cult?"

WHY ARE YOU SAYING THE CULTS ARE SCREWED AS THOUGH IT'S A BAD THING YOU SCUMMY FUCK?

Was that too harsh?

[mutantdevle]

we are now in PAUSE

(resolving actions)

Wait.. what?