Valentine's Dance - [GAME OVER]

[Dunnstral]

Here elli:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69472

I'm scum in this one, maki is town, but we don't share a pt. Maki also leaves during first dance

Bonus points if you look at how many posts I have in that game and in my pt that game and then compare it to this one and the other dance games

The pt may interest you as well for other reasons, but I don't think it's anything to talk about right now

[Dunnstral]

But seriously, look at how many times I posted in that game.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Venmar/Reck

What sells it for me is the feeling that the scum in the pair wouldbe deflecting off of the town in their pair

Well that was quick after chess' vote.

VOTE: Venmar/Reck

What sells it for me is the feeling that the scum in the pair wouldbe deflecting off of the town in their pair

Well that was quick after chess' vote.

Considering that in the past, your partner Maki also jumped on the Fireshiro wagon, I will
VOTE: Makistral

But you guys are not magisterial.

Starting right from the beginning, before getting into the crux of the issue, I have a problem with this. Namely, this only really makes sense if thinking both fire-shiro and venmar-reck are fully town. But Harambe has not given reads on either of those pairs and still doesn't after being prompted by beeboy shortly after.
There's another problem with this, he seems to be combining something Maki did with something I did and combining it into something singularly scummy that we both did, and this viewpoint doesn't really hold up in this game format. I'll go into this more.

VOTE: Venmar/Reck

What sells it for me is the feeling that the scum in the pair wouldbe deflecting off of the town in their pair

Well that was quick after chess' vote.

And?

Refresh yourself on my stances on the slots

Right when chess votes, you vote too. Right after. That just has a vibe, which is why I'm asking.
In general

I'm wondering why you and Maki jump on wagons so often

Like what are you trying to say Harambe

It's 8 to lynch

IDC how many ppl it is for a lynch. It just spot out to me that

you two try to get every chance you can to lynch another pair.

Also others have told me here that scum are usually the early voters on a wagon. About halfway through usually. That's where you two guys are always in. At least one of you two is likely scumme

I made the problem points here big and bold.
Let's dissect this one step at a time.

First, we'll look at Maki's voting history:

VOTE: fireshiro

for now

Ok, this is the first vote on the wagon at this point in time so not what we're talking about

gamma's being so fake it HURTS

Tell me why I shouldn't deathtunnel you
VOTE: Maki

VOTE: Gamma
ooo so scared!

First vote on the wagon again. Out of bounds for the notion of "maki jumps on formed wagons to get a lynch"

Also like part of me doesn't want to vote gamma cause I'd feel like the biggest fucking ass if my read was incorrect and Gamma really was THAT upset over it. It just felt out of the blue to me
UNVOTE:
I want to rethink

An unvote for completeness sake

VOTE: Fire

okay dunn and me agreed on this...for the most part

This is the only time Maki could be considered to be jumping on a wagon. She is the third vote here out of eight needed to form a lynch, however her vote doesn't appear to have any relation to the previous votes

Regardless, examing Maki's voting history I fail to see the "jumping on wagons so often" or "try to get every chance to lynch another pair.

So with that done, let's look at my voting history next:

VOTE: Venmar/Reck

What sells it for me is the feeling that the scum in the pair wouldbe deflecting off of the town in their pair

Wait a second,

this is the only time I've voted this game

...

So when Harambe says:

In general I'm wondering why you and Maki jump on wagons so often

It just spot out to me that you two try to get every chance you can to lynch another pair.

What does he mean? How does it spot out to him that I take every chance I can to lynch another pair if that was my first vote of the game? He's lying and there's no way around that. No benefit of the doubt to be had.

For that matter, what's up with this:

Like what are you trying to say Harambe

It's 8 to lynch

IDC how many ppl it is for a lynch. It just spot out to me that you two try to get every chance you can to lynch another pair.
Also others have told me here that scum are usually the early voters on a wagon. About halfway through usually. That's where you two guys are always in. At least one of you two is likely scumme

There hasn't been a wagon to have gone over halfway yet, how is it scummy that we're "always in the first half of the wagon"
There's a lot more people to chase after if he truly believes this.

And once again: does any of this hold up to him if fireshiro/venmarreck has scum in it? Why isn't he even considering the possibility?

Later:

VOTE: Venmar/Reck

What sells it for me is the feeling that the scum in the pair wouldbe deflecting off of the town in their pair

Well that was quick after chess' vote.

And?

Refresh yourself on my stances on the slots

Right when chess votes, you vote too. Right after. That just has a vibe, which is why I'm asking.
In general I'm wondering why you and Maki jump on wagons so often

We "jump on wagons so often"?
Ok, prove it. Show us what you are talking about.

you two try to get every chance you can to lynch another pair.

Show where me and maki do this.

I point it out, twice, I give him a third chance actually to show his work or back down

DUDE
If you think I'm gonna accept this case you're actually stupid.

[beeboy]

you fucking quoted that entire post for a 1 sentence reply.

[chesskid3]

i mean a few jabronis always want to lynch me that never stops me from fucking scum up

[Dunnstral]

DUDE
If you think I'm gonna accept this case you're actually stupid.

ok, let's go over it, what's wrong with it?

[beeboy]

Maki/Dunn TvT

[Gamma Emerald]

When did you intially townread me?

i think it was when i "threw shade at you" and then i liked your response and i don't think said opinion has changed much since.

Okay, this is a fair continuity, I may check this later but it's not immediately problematic

[Maki Harukawa]

Like fire I fucking get it I'm really good at scum and no matter what your ego says you want to lynch me preach I'm gonna come back at you full force

No matter what my ego says?

you said long ago you'd lynch me regardless because you don't want to get "tricked by me again" if you're town I wouldn't be shocked if you're doing exactly that and considering I can see Shiro as scum I think that's happening

[FakeGod]

ActionDan replaces sheepsaysmeep.

[Ellibereth]

DAN THE MAN

[beeboy]

DAN THE MAN

[chesskid3]

DAN THE MAN

[Maki Harukawa]

DAN THE MAN

[Firebringer]

Like fire I fucking get it I'm really good at scum and no matter what your ego says you want to lynch me preach I'm gonna come back at you full force

No matter what my ego says?

you said long ago you'd lynch me regardless because you don't want to get "tricked by me again" if you're town I wouldn't be shocked if you're doing exactly that and considering I can see Shiro as scum I think that's happening

I said that as scum

[Maki Harukawa]

Like fire I fucking get it I'm really good at scum and no matter what your ego says you want to lynch me preach I'm gonna come back at you full force

No matter what my ego says?

you said long ago you'd lynch me regardless because you don't want to get "tricked by me again" if you're town I wouldn't be shocked if you're doing exactly that and considering I can see Shiro as scum I think that's happening

I said that as scum

Wrong.

[Firebringer]

Wrong.

Prove me wrong

[Gamma Emerald]

DUDE
If you think I'm gonna accept this case you're actually stupid.

ok, let's go over it, what's wrong with it?

I feel like it's something I could see as town. He perceives a cooperation between you two, and he just misanalysed it as you following them

[Firebringer]

Dan smells.
Don’t cheer him on until after he showers.

Ty

[Maki Harukawa]

Wrong.

Prove me wrong

Subject: Mini 1842: Pokemon Episode 6 GAME OVER

You realize i will lynch you every game now, zero argument s.

Gg Maria

[beeboy]

I was in that game.

[Firebringer]

Wrong.

Prove me wrong

Subject: Mini 1842: Pokemon Episode 6 GAME OVER

You realize i will lynch you every game now, zero argument s.

Gg Maria

That’s postgame shit

I never even did that afterwards and I have been in ducking at least half dozen games since

Ur dumb

[beeboy]

wtf you guys lynched me.
I posted nothing but town content before I replace out.

[Firebringer]

I remember tunneling u as scum using that excuse too because of my “promise”

[Maki Harukawa]

ok fire w/e you say!
Pedit: I don't remember that at all