Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over

[Elena Fisher]

The only person In the lynch pool I can see being scum is you math.
I won't get into that huge debate again I don't have the effort too atm (blah blah irl blah blah)
T-bone and Titus I feel are town
So is Bins
So is Dunker

Those are my lock 4 and 3 of those are in the lynch pool atm and that is really yucky

[Dunkerdoodles]

hold up

why am i in a lynch pool

[Bins]

not u dumbdumb

[Dunkerdoodles]

oh sorry

[Elena Fisher]

stay you dunker we will love you always

[Radja]

If you keep breaking the rules and the spirit of team mafia, then fuck yes I'm going to mention it. Don't tell me what what I should and shouldn't do. I could also report every post that crosses the line, but getting a player modkilled isn't something I'd want to happen. Even if the player is a huge distraction from the actual game itself.

[Mathdino]

@Titus:

I'd like Lycanfire's read on Dunker as soon as you can get it. Just an ISO is fine.

I read through Dunker's ISO in Mini 1982 and he seemed a lot... smarter... and more nuanced... and more pro-town...

So off of a really quick cold meta, still confident Dunker's town.

Edit: Radja, the spirit of Team Mafia is that it's a 5 game competition with the games linked.

Do something useful.

Like, wincon useful, not complaining that other people aren't playing the way you want them to.

[Radja]

VOTE: Mathdino

I'll kill the distraction and work out the rest of the game without it. That seems to match with my win condition.

[Dunkerdoodles]

stay you dunker we will love you always

<3

can we get a flip

also how is another game already finished and were still on d2
i guess we're just really slow

[Mathdino]

bro
you have a flip
you just choose to inexplicably ignore that flip and continue to go with "mathdino scum because fuck his play"

what happened to "mathdino was right about fitz and a50 and i'll follow him"
did everything change for you when i also nailed bins as town by loudly claiming fruit vendor xD

[Dunkerdoodles]

ok who do you want to lynch that i don't townread

[Dunkerdoodles]

oh wait

i townread literally everyone except math

[Mathdino]

Reads list:

Lock-town:

Dunker
Bins
chesskid

Likely town:

Keychain

(pending NSG and others getting their heads in the game)

Titus
Bulbazak

(FOR NOW)

Null-town:

Radja

Could lynch:
UC Voyager
Aeronaut

CDB

Probscum:

Elena

T-Bone

[Keychain]

oh wait

i townread literally everyone except math

Dunkers if you townread everyone, it sounds like your reads are shot and you might need to reevaluate instead of using "but I townread everyone else" as an argument. What are the towny points for each other player that make you think they're not scum?

Chesskid

please explain Elena townread.

@Keychain, My meta hasn't shifted at all and you tunnelled me hard. Now, you're tunnelling again. What gives? Why is this different? Are you town scum or proud town?

I don't understand what you're asking. Meta is across games and we've barely played together. I'm using RC's read on you.

[Dunkerdoodles]

oh wait

i townread literally everyone except math

Dunkers if you townread everyone, it sounds like your reads are shot and you might need to reevaluate instead of using "but I townread everyone else" as an argument. What are the towny points for each other player that make you think they're not scum?

Chesskid

please explain Elena townread.

@Keychain, My meta hasn't shifted at all and you tunnelled me hard. Now, you're tunnelling again. What gives? Why is this different? Are you town scum or proud town?

I don't understand what you're asking. Meta is across games and we've barely played together. I'm using RC's read on you.

yes i know i am trying

[Elena Fisher]

I forgot why I was sr in the first place. I like my vote where it's at I'd lynch in Key/Math tomorrow if I had my wish

[Dunkerdoodles]

locktown:
Dunkerdoodles

townread:
Keychain
Bins
Elena Fisher
T-Bone
Radja

townreadish:
Titus
Bulbazak

nulltown:
ChannelDelibird

null:
Aeronaut
chesskid3
UC Voyager

no idea:
Mathdino

basically where im at rn

[Mathdino]

"I townread everyone that produces content other than Mathdino"

idk man, are you willing to explain any of those

[T-Bone]

I feel similar to you Dunker, don't feel bad.

[chesskid3]

Chesskid please explain Elena townread

idk how u ppl think that was a bus and identity faking episode

[T-Bone]

But despite that, I don't want to lynch Math, because he's boxed himself in with his claim if he's scum, so we don't need to flip him today. I don't want to lynch Titus today for similar reasons. It's not that I think either are necessarily a lock for town, I just think there is a good chance their alignments can be proven in short order without a lynch today (which if town, that means we avoid mislynches). As much as I find both players scummy for independent reasons, I hate the idea of flipping players when it can be avoided if they aren't scum.

Don't want to lynch Elena, Bins, or Bulba. Elena and Bulba I'm lock step with, so either they've gone to great lengths to pocket me (which I highly doubt) or they think the same way I do because they are also town. I don't know if I'm holding onto Bins as a vanity or not...I just don't see it.

I thought at the beginning of the day I might want to pursue the group of Dunker, Keychain, and Radja. Similar players in my head based on the gamestate...but they also largely say things I agree with and am satisfied with.

So that leaves me with a group that includes CDB, UCV, Aero, and chesskid. Aka the 'compromise lynch group'...and that bothers me in of itself. It feels too easy to lynch within this group. I don't think chess has done anything particularly alignment indicative, certainly nothing I would go 'look at how scum this is'. CDB when he occasionally pops in says things I like. UCV and Aero are low hanging fruit that just about every player has in the periphery of their lynch pool, because their contributions to the game have been nonexistent. One or both could be scum, but I don't have a game relevant reason beyond 'they actively avoid anything and everything except to occasionally vote'. Is that enough?

So this is what I have been mulling over. The players I think are most scummy are not optimal lynches from my POV (which I know, is weird to worry about). So now I have to decide do I think they are scummy just because they do scummy things, or am I overreading them? Then I have a large group of players who say things I agree with. I'm confident if any of those players are scum, they aren't doing it on purpose (that is to say, none of them set out with the express purpose of "making Bone agree with me"). Then the last group, in which so-called 'compromise reads' always make me feel icky. Are we as a playerlist keeping them here because we actually have the game solved?

I feel like I've typed a whole lot of nothing, but I suppose it is better to put it out there than to continue to hem and haw over in my head.

[Mathdino]

Did I miss a claim from Titus...?

[T-Bone]

No, you're fine.

[Mathdino]

Why do you believe Titus's alignment can be eventually proven?

I'm really just looking for "I think I know something you don't" which is fine too.

[T-Bone]

Just from my PoV. "I think I know something" works too if that helps you.