Another wall of fury
Town is thoroughly shaken
When our rages last ten pages
How much can you take in
But you see, it's not me
He's not my scumbuddy
In your head, in your head
We are fighting
With our spats, and our feuds
And our feuds, and our walls
In your head, in your head
We're just whining
In post 3496, Kmd4390 wrote:But Mathdino wants to point out that Chara DID have incentive to quickly check Tora as scum because one of our questions to Tora had been Almost50s take on Chara's play.
Literally nobody doubted the guilty yesterday.
This is a garbage reason to scumread Chara.
Pretty sure that was just a counter to your point that he's town for being here for it. He said he's got more in-game reasons than I remembered so he's gonna dog those up.
KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare
In post 3496, Kmd4390 wrote:Hmm. The bulk of the case can't be posted here. But Mathdino wants to point out that Chara DID have incentive to quickly check Tora as scum because one of our questions to Tora had been Almost50s take on Chara's play.
And he wants me to point out that his list was ordered. The only reason for an investigative to check you is if Chara/spiff are lynched or cleared and the game isn't over yet.
Vote Chara
I'm gonna trust this for now.
you realize that i
also
asked Toranaga about Almost's read on me?
on like... day 1?
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
In post 3490, Kmd4390 wrote:Why was Chara's reaction town? If you don't have a scum read, I'll probably just listen to Mathdino and he wants to Lynch Chara. He also says it's important we pay attention to his town Bloc.
his townblock isn't big enough. mine's better.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
In post 3496, Kmd4390 wrote:Hmm. The bulk of the case can't be posted here. But Mathdino wants to point out that Chara DID have incentive to quickly check Tora as scum because one of our questions to Tora had been Almost50s take on Chara's play.
And he wants me to point out that his list was ordered. The only reason for an investigative to check you is if Chara/spiff are lynched or cleared and the game isn't over yet.
Vote Chara
I'm gonna trust this for now.
you realize that i
also
asked Toranaga about Almost's read on me?
on like... day 1?
You asked for Almost's thoughts on the game. I don't see a request for his read on you in your ISO with ctrl+f.
KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare
Cheet's still town by the way. even if you're town, Kmd, none of Math's reads are impressing me.
considering the number of mislynches we have, i have to wonder if scum Kmd would be coached to attempt to mislynch me here and face blowback for it if i go down. perhaps being original in their push (i'm really not going to be mislynched, haha) is an attempt to emulate a town opinion?
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
In post 3506, Kmd4390 wrote:You asked for Almost's thoughts on the game. I don't see a request for his read on you in your ISO with ctrl+f.
asking for his thoughts on the game
is
asking for a read on me. he knows that. there's no way he would talk about this game to Toranaga and not mention a read on me.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
Chara wrote:Kmd, none of Math's reads are impressing me.
Uhhh. I'd be surprised if you said otherwise considering you're his strongest scum read.
Chara wrote:i have to wonder if scum Kmd would be coached to attempt to mislynch me here and face blowback for it if i go down. perhaps being original in their push (i'm really not going to be mislynched, haha) is an attempt to emulate a town opinion?
Considering how wrong I've been so far, that would be dumb. If I was scum, the only way to save my game right now would be an awesome fakeclaim because I'm on like everyone's shortlist for a lynch.
Chara wrote:asking for his thoughts on the game is asking for a read on me. he knows that. there's no way he would talk about this game to Toranaga and not mention a read on me.
Ehhhh...not specifically which you seemed to be implying.
KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
even taking the read on me out of the equation, the Cabd read was bad. the Cheet scumread is also bad, and i would dearly love to see the reasoning on that.
as for the Almost read: now you're being pedantic. scum Chara knows Almost is going to be scrutinizing it from the word go. i wouldn't need to wait for other players to start asking for his read on me in order to be concerned about it.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
finally: Kmd trusting its teams reads over its own also bothers me. one of Fire's townpoints was from RC yelling that i'm scum and Fire going "nah". (not the only reason or even a good one, but still)
saying one is listening to their teammates is a line of separation between the read and the player, and essentially makes it impossible to ascertain how genuine the person is being.
right now i'm thinking Mathdino is doing his best to get Kmd out of this hole for a longshot win.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
In post 3477, Patrick wrote:I disagree with Kmd on pretty much everything of relevance this game, but think he's town.
i went to ISO Patrick for why he's town, but this post does bother me.
why do you think it's wrong town?
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
In post 3495, Kmd4390 wrote:As far as Chara, I asked because I'm considering voting there and wanted to know why you have him as town, not to get you to drop your read. I don't buy consistency as a town tell. I don't see why if he was going to take Elli's approach to this game, he'd change his mind as town. And I don't have the meta you do.
I also want to point out the only thing I remember him being wrong on was cabd. He got mulch right. He was better than I was on Kagami and Eddie. And if unabomb turns out to be town, he got me there too. Tora is the only one I was more sure of than him and even that he had right.
what do you mean by changing my mind?
i'm not convinced on why you're scumreading me. perhaps it's because i'm reading through your ISO backwards, but it just sounds like you're following Math's read.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
Implosion I don’t think is pushing me from a perspective of scum right now, I think this is genuine “Firebringer is within his range of scum” which I guess is pretty much always true, there’s nothing in this game not out of my scum range and 90% of my Town games there isn’t really that I wouldn’t do as scum. It’s just kind of terrible argument, and same argument he is using to talk about people he knows that can go deep wolf and it hit some chords as far as what I think of Spiffeh potential as scum but it’s just kind of paranoia talking but it still seems from a town perspective.
Patrick I don’t know well, I just think he is townie, I kind of think someone unfamiliar with me would scumread me more tbh so that’s weird but he seems pretty authentic in what he says but it’s hard to get toneread on him since there isn’t anything strong in his posts, he seems like a relaxed dude. So like my read on him isn’t incredibly strong
Ari feels like scum. Like it feels like ari told his teammates “to I can’t do scum it makes me apatheticL” and everyone told him to have fun with it and just literally post whatever came to mind and people will read him Town because it’s him. It’s like his thoughts don’t seem townie. And his argument for him being Town is he wouldn’t pick it? So? That’s your only reason when you might not have even picked your role? (I didn’t pick beeboy) I think ari lynch wins the game.
"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 3418, Kmd4390 wrote:Ginngie is actually obvtown. After losing partners on the first two days, it makes no sense for scum to get into a 1v1 with town. The last scum needed to Outlast like 12 people so there's no way they make that play. I know it wasn't a good town play either, but you can at least figure out what the logic would be in doing it.
All I can come up with is unabomb as scum but he's been softing a power role of some sort. The way he asked who everyone thought was doc when the game was supposed to be over sounded more like boon than una and why would boon be having him say things if that team actually thought the game was over?
I dunno. My reads have sucked so far so I'm kind of at a loss.
this post reminded me that i don't think Una is scum either. ignore what i said earlier. he's only a scumspect in lategame if for some reason we're not over yet. his PR will probably settle that eventually one way or the other, though.
if the PR soft was fake, however, i'm lynching Una, i think.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
