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Post Post #3675 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:20 am

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Day 4, Votecount 10


If I could prove your claim's a lie
Do you think scum would let me die?
'Cause you know I'd walk a thousand miles
If I could just ditch this tonight
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The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-23 01:00:00), on Friday, February 23 at 1:00 am EST.


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Post Post #3676 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:21 am

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Cheet:
In post 2856, Chara wrote:Cabd's friendly neighbour claim that no one really believed? yes, definitely, scum would nightkill that.
Does this sound like someone who was townreading cabd Day 1? I get that it wasn't a strong town read, but it seems like overnight he went from a weak town read to a scum read and seemed to imply cabd was always obvscum when his read flipped.
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Post Post #3677 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:24 am

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In post 3567, UnaBombaH wrote:So Ginngie/Firebringer/Aristophanes/Chara are the ones leading the conversation atm.

I have no idea which of you could be scum.
This was never explained
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Post Post #3678 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:26 am

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In post 3650, UnaBombaH wrote:I think one of my my main problems include Eddie being killed last night.
I can talk about that more openly once we mass-claim, but I think scum actually believed his faked softing and that "guilty" on me.
He was one of the better townplayers around, sure, but he shouldn't have been killed unless the remaining scum believed his "claim".
There would've been an avenue for mislynching him in this game for sure - especially when we would've claimed - and part of that is also because of Trans-Mulch -interactions.
Also I feel like this is self-incriminating
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Post Post #3679 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:27 am

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It reminds me of a game I saw Guilty Lion play and he talked a lot every new day about NKA and stuff and justifying things.
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Post Post #3680 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:29 am

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Honestly it feels like an admission to guilt

like I'm pretty sure I remember Eddie only being suspicious of Una last day legitimately and now the main proponent of Una!scum is dead so Una felt the need to talk about it.
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Post Post #3681 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:29 am

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I'm getting lunch and will do some research when I get back but I'm starting to lean actually scum here with Una
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Post Post #3682 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:30 am

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In post 3676, Kmd4390 wrote:seemed to imply cabd was always obvscum when his read flipped.
Pretty sure this is referring to the general feel of the room wrt Cabd's claim rather than its own opinion on Cabd's claim on D1.
Chara voted and pushed for Cabd the moment he started pushing himself as being the obvious nightkill, which was frankly pretty obviously bullshit. I know you and Math thought it wasn't, but like five people voted Cabd immediately after he said that.
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Post Post #3683 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:35 am

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I can see that side of it.
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Post Post #3684 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:25 am

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my townread was always contingent on Cabd's claim being legitimate.
Cheet's right about it being general thread opinion on Cabd (which was also not good on day 1) making him an unlikely nightkill.
Maki did mention to me that Cabd's FN claim being under duress is not one she would believe (and she would have believed it if it had come in a different situation), but that conversation happened after Cabd had already changed his claim to BP.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #3685 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:27 am

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and i'll maintain that taking out confirmed town that is playing 'badly' on night 1 is not good scum nightplay, whatever Math's opinion on it.
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Post Post #3686 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:31 am

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In post 3678, Ginngie wrote:
In post 3650, UnaBombaH wrote:I think one of my my main problems include Eddie being killed last night.
I can talk about that more openly once we mass-claim, but I think scum actually believed his faked softing and that "guilty" on me.
He was one of the better townplayers around, sure, but he shouldn't have been killed unless the remaining scum believed his "claim".
There would've been an avenue for mislynching him in this game for sure - especially when we would've claimed - and part of that is also because of Trans-Mulch -interactions.
Also I feel like this is self-incriminating
i feel like the conclusion here isn't right to begin with. Transcend/Mulch interactions made Eddie obvtown. faking a masonry with someone he was townreading who flipped town isn't... even a scummy action to begin with.

as for scum believing Eddie had a guilty on Una. haha.
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Post Post #3687 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:33 am

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are you disagreeing or agreeing? I'm confused
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Post Post #3688 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:33 am

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In post 3687, Ginngie wrote:are you disagreeing or agreeing? I'm confused
with my opinion
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Post Post #3689 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:34 am

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i didn't agree with Una's post. i agree with your reasoning on Una incriminating himself here. not
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Post Post #3690 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:35 am

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funny like haha funny.
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Post Post #3691 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:40 am

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Hi chara! <3
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3692 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:45 am

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hello Fire!
i don't know who the last scum is. :<
Kmd's read on me doesn't make sense to me. there's the conclusion i'm unlikely to be scum with Mulch, but could be a Cabd partner. personally, i feel that since it's entirely possible for town to be wrong and have partner associations with scum, the first favt should trump the second.

even moreso considering Kmd's interactions with flipped scum are even worse than mine, and i feel as though it should know this?

i can see implosion scum but i still don't have my laptop and can't, for the life of me, figure out how to ctrl-f on mobile.
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Post Post #3693 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:38 am

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Unlikely? Really? Really?

I said nothing looked too incriminating until you voted Assemble.
Chara wrote:personally, i feel that since it's entirely possible for town to be wrong and have partner associations with scum, the first favt should trump the second.

even moreso considering Kmd's interactions with flipped scum are even worse than mine, and i feel as though it should know this?
I do agree with this. I don't think your associatives are so strong you have to be town though. You seem to think that with the "unlikely" comment while also acknowledging that's not the case here.

Let me clarify again. Your interactions with Mulch don't absolutely convince me you are scum. The only part I don't like is how you talked more about him than to him and the Assemble vote. The Cabd interactions look much worse. The one thing I noted on both is that at the point you voted it doesn't feel natural. You went from townreading both slots to voting them and both of those changes were sudden and occurred at the time that they were clearly the lynches on those days.

So yes, you make sense as scum with both players, especially cabd. I also understand that there are explanations that make sense with you being town. I get that. I'm not saying I'm fully confident you are scum. You're just a better guess than anyone else. Like after you I'd personally be looking at Implosion, Unabomb, and Spiff. Implosion has satisfied anything I or anyone else has thrown at him. Unabomb is going to depend on his claim. And Spiff I have nothing except no real reason to call him town.
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Post Post #3694 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:47 am

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the changes were sudden because Cabd obvscummed with the lie about the FN (came at a time when he was being wagoned) changing to BP, and Mulch's replacement removed my doubt about the slot as he obvscummed and pretty much slipped with his Fire read, as pointed out by Cheet. (i think, don't remember.)
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Post Post #3695 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:52 am

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Speaking of Cabd

One thing I wondered about and no one seemed interested in...

Here's how he ended Day 1:
Cabd wrote:I'm here now, sorry.

Had to totally bomb an interview first~
Does anyone think it's possible this was a crumb that he was considering having scum-Unabomb claim to have received his FN? I can't get this out of the back of my mind.
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Post Post #3696 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:01 pm

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Wouldn't they just discuss it in the scum PT? Why breadcrumb it in thread?
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Post Post #3697 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:04 pm

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Eh, I see what you're saying. Doubt it means anything though. I don't think that kind of a claim would be made any more convincing by pointing to a crumb the day before.
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Post Post #3698 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:09 pm

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It gave off a similar vibe to his earlier crumbs though. Whether it would have helped or not doesn't mean more than whether he'd be likely to do it. He was crumbing all along, why stop then?
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Post Post #3699 (ISO) » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:44 pm

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I just reread cabd's iso, and that's not as crazy as I first thought. Unsure where to really take it from there though, lol. I do think if Unabombah is scum he's probably going to bomb in the massclaim.
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