Mini 1992 - One-Shot Mafia - GAME OVER

[Alisae]

CONFIRMING 1-SHOT CULT RECRUITER
LETS GO BOYZ

[Alisae]

yaaaaaaaaay

[Alisae]

I would say hype playerlist but the last time I said that in Surreptitious I hated playing that game even tho I was 4/6 5/6 or something on reads

pedit: ok

[Alisae]

ye I'm recruiting Mollie N1 to my cul- I mean masonry don't lynch me guyz my role is provable.

[Alisae]

That doesn't change my night action

[Alisae]

Alisae was killed night 1. E was a 1-shot Cult Leader.


HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME

[Alisae]

ye I'm recruiting Mollie N1 to my cul- I mean masonry don't lynch me guyz my role is provable.

Not me!?

I'm hurt

</3

I mean she was the first one to ask so...

[Alisae]

I mean
you're not wrong

[Alisae]

VOTE: Ma Jiffy

[Alisae]

VOTE: Ma Jiffy

[Alisae]

Now look at your vote
Now back to Ma Jiffy
Now look at your vote
Now back to Ma Jiffy

Sadly, your vote isn't on Ma Jiffy
but if you type in

Code: Select all

[v]Ma Jiffy[/v]

you could vote Ma Jiffy.

Now look down
now back up
Where are you?
You're on mafiascum dot net in vonflare's game with your potential vote being on Ma Jiffy.

Now look at your next post.
Now back to me.

I have voted Ma Jiffy and leading the wagon.
But look again, next thing you know you're a millionare.
Anything is possible when you vote Ma Jiffy
I'm on a horse.

[Alisae]

My case is stunning you should sheep it.

[Alisae]

I think the only people I'm going to have problems sorting are GiF and UT.
Otherwise I'm good

Also mollie you forgot something in that post of yours.

[Alisae]

THATS NOT A MA JIFFY VOTE WHAT HAPPENED TO LYNCHING MA JIFFY I FEEL BETRAYED D:

[Alisae]

n0 mollie

[Alisae]

ITS TOO LATE ARI
I ALREADY CALLED MY N0 GREEN PEEK ON MOLLIE

[Alisae]

Lovebird is probably town.

[Alisae]

majiffy
raya
not mafia
guy in freezer need to post more

Here's where I'm at
Ari town
Lovebird town.
Mollie kinda feels town.
Bastion I have mixed feelings about and is probably town
Everyone else yeah, I need more data.
GiF I actually scumread. I'll get to that in a bit.

[Alisae]

Thanks vonflare for letting me know that the game started

I mean you got a role pm and you were asked to confirm in thread so...
yeah how's wolfchat going
VOTE: GiF

[Alisae]

lol nm

[Alisae]

its moreso I don't believe GiF never looked at the gamethread.
Plus the entry just feels wolfy to me.

[Alisae]

That's not what I am saying.
I am saying they never looked at the gamethread in the first place.

[Alisae]

I mean as town I would probably atleast take a look at it.
As scum I can understand completely skipping over it and heading straight to your scum PT.
Regardless its not something I strongly believe in.

[Alisae]

Also, I would like to get a better grasp on UT and/or Bambietta's alignment.
I am attempting to come around to respecting UT's accuracy early thanks to Fornite, so if I TR him I am probably sheeping him onto Bambietta which
I kinda want to see bambietta dosomething.jpeg.

hey mollie, you enjoying being town?

vote Bambietta

Picking on a lady 15 years your younger... Have you no shame, Sire!

everyone vote this til it's dead please and thank you

@UT

- What about this post pings your scumdar?

[Alisae]

Is your name UT?

[Alisae]

What's that no response cuz you're not UT?
Yeah I didn't think you were UT, which in that case don't answer please ty

[Alisae]

/confirm

Did the game start? Confused

lol hi kokichi

[Alisae]

What's that no response cuz you're not UT?
Yeah I didn't think you were UT, which in that case don't answer please ty

it's just gut, but that response makes me want to vote again

Respectable.
I think the thread needs some space so I'm going to give it that space.

[Alisae]

asking for a friend

this isn't a bad thing (and probably a good thing for that matter)
but I can see the MU in you :3

[Alisae]

my lips are sealed

[Alisae]

Ma Jiffy is the most easiest read on mafiascum.net

[Alisae]

I rather play quake tho then out the read.
I'll out the read laterz
If anyone wants a hint tho, whats the difference between 144 and this post?

[Alisae]

I rather play quake tho then out the read.
I'll out the read laterz
If anyone wants a hint tho, whats the difference between 144 and this post?

Alright guys it was a trick question they're both bad posts that don't really add much to the game and they're both being posted from scum
VOTE: Ma Jiffy

[Alisae]

Kokichi use Mutliquote.

[Alisae]

Yeah shit players won't read multiquotes.
Um that's not really something I should answer. Its better if you try to figure out if I'm town or scum yourself.

[Alisae]

Yeah shit players won't read multiquotes.
Um that's not really something I should answer. Its better if you try to figure out if I'm town or scum yourself.

Can you explain your majiffy read? It just looks like a catch up post to me

Yeah the catchup post is basicly a post that contains a lot of nothing and stuff that's extremely easy to say.
Like, I don't feel like he's scumhunting he's just stating extremely easy opinions to state.

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Fair enough, but I think you're giving Ari to much credit for stating that daychat was standard, and then going right back to fluff posting. Of course, I don't think I've played with Ari before, so it could just be his style.

The fact that Ari has double digit posts means he's probably town.

[Alisae]

Like Ari doesn't post as scum lol.

[Alisae]

Penguin, I find it interesting you came to bambi's defense so quickly. What are some town leans or scum leans you have?

I wasn't coming to Bambi's defense. I was trying to see if your comment on Bambi was genuine or an opportunity to join the counterwagon. You explained it well enough for me.

I'm not going to give Ari a pass because of his postcount; and, the fact that he is now providing non-fluff stuff is a bit yuck to me.

If Alisae keeps getting town reads, I'm probably going to be fine throwing that into my scumpool.

I want Raya to actually do something.

I'm meh everywhere else right now.

This Ari read is shitty but
I can actually see you having that read on me as town granted its also shitty

[Alisae]

Like, I don't feel like he's scumhunting he's just stating extremely easy opinions to state.

It seems like lots of people aren't really scumhunting. Why does it make majiffy scum in particular?

Well I mean, calling the UT wagon trash and commenting about Bambi's playstyle isn't exactly hard.

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Like, I don't feel like he's scumhunting he's just stating extremely easy opinions to state.

It seems like lots of people aren't really scumhunting. Why does it make majiffy scum in particular?

a desire to deflect off of scumbuddy Bambi?

oh shit I wasn't the one being asked I guess I'm scum now
<----- votes go here

lmfao I only mentioned it because I was annoyed Bambi answered.

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raya36 has requested replacement

VOTE: Raya

[Alisae]

hi reck

[Alisae]

the rep out is scummy.

[Alisae]

Reck why the fuck am I null?

[Alisae]

Yeah its a shit read because there isn't really much to go off or whatever (GiF)
Sorry I shouldn't be posting when I feel like garbage that hates playing mafia atm.
Also don't toneread me lol.

But in all seriousness I think this is a scummy post.

first off, def thought i got in originally and was getting pissed off wondering why i hadnt gotten a PM yet

second off,
hi sir bastion! long time no see. how mad are you at pulling a scum PM?

ari is town for now for tone

is bambi a hydra or alt or something? i need it to die i think

alisae is...idk ill figure it out later.

mollie is town as fuck imo. either that or a time apart has made me really bad and susceptible to her feminine wiles (long time no see girlfriend, glad to see you back)

UT goddammit one of these days you will actually pull a town PM in the same game as me and we will be able to make sweet love. alas, this is not that game. and actually every game we've played in the past like 2 years you've been scum in you have rolled me so idk if i can even take that chance again.

GuyInFreezer is probably actually fuck I don't even know. i want to say...serial killer.

lovebird can die i guess, not impressed so far

majiffy's catchup post made me, to use his words, gag a little in my mouth. quote striping with banter, UGH

luv the kokichi spamquotes instead of using multiquote tho

penguin used the dabemoji so he gets a passed

VOTE: Bambi
god save the greens [and also the blue]

The UT read is faked as fuck and if that's actually genuine then sorry.
the GiF read is faked as fuck.
Lovebird is extremely obvious town
And their approach to Bambi is just...bad.

[Alisae]

Reck if you feel like being a dick I'm just going to leave.
I would address what you're saying now but I'm just
not in the mood.
Sorry.

sigh

I'll get to it when I'm feeling better.

[Alisae]

what part of my post seems like i think you're being a dick

don't go

Sorry its um mostly a me issue?
Wasn't feeling too good at the moment.
I mean now I don't feel like a crippling depression archetype, but I don't feel good.
I'm good enough to address some stuff though.

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UT and i are IRL friends who hang out frequently and cohost a podcast together and mod games together and live like 45 minutes from each other, and there's a painful history of UT constantly rolling me or trolling me in games together during my last active period on the site, so no, it's not faked. ask UT

yes you got me, i dont actually believe GIF is a serial killer, very good, you've found my totally real and not at all a joke read and called it out for being fake

saying lovebird is town has literally no effect on me because i dont care about emptyreads

bambi i want to die for NAI reasons (i dont really like anime avatar players or players that unironically use "Senpai" or unironically say "have you no shame, sire" or are obvious alts that are trying too hard)
those reasons wont hold up when either
a) they give me a reason to town read them
b) other things happen to move my vote elsewhere

I played in game you two modded! It was one of my favorite games to play in and it inspired me as a mod. I think I kind of phrased it wrong. Its not moreso the UT read itself that seemed faked. Hold on, I'll bring it up again.

UT goddammit one of these days you will actually pull a town PM in the same game as me and we will be able to make sweet love. alas, this is not that game. and actually every game we've played in the past like 2 years you've been scum in you have rolled me so idk if i can even take that chance again.

This sense of betrayal here just doesn't sit right with me, and that I feel like is faked and is not coming from town?
Lovebird is town mostly because its empty sure, but it just kinda seems obvious? Their approach to like to this whole game and I feel like a lot of their posts are coming from town.
Also I kinda hate the justification you're providing for Bambi even if its NAI but regardless.
The feeling 223 gave me just seems like the whole post was halfassed :/

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mollie read me

Also this pings scummy to me on a gut level.

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Alisae's scumread on my slot is due to the replace out?

Not according to the post made on this very page

Raya replacing out is what started the read, because for the most part they didn't replace out in thread, and it pinged like a scummy rep out to me.

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Okay, great, we're on the same page.
What do you think of Alisae's post about why I'm scummy, and how does that affect your read on Alisae?

This friendlyness also just, doesn't sit right with me :/

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his first post is a timezone/availability check in which is bizarre to me and just empty content meant to look helpful
his RVS vote looks like he's trying too hard to appear lighthearted which IMO comes from nervous RVS scum

he has a few posts that are just irrelevant to the game and are more lighthearted "oooh hey arent i a fun dude!!!" posts

he asks about site meta a few times in lieu of actual reads/pushes/content

the vote on bambi comes at an opportunistic spot on the wagon [while he completely ignores the 5 person UT wagon] and after at least 1 or 2 others had already lightly thrown shade at bambi

This early, that's enough to get put in the scumbin

Okay I kind of agree most of this and is why I was getting mixed feelings from him.
I disagree in that I just think its coming from town.

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Like, I don't feel like he's scumhunting he's just stating extremely easy opinions to state.

It seems like lots of people aren't really scumhunting. Why does it make majiffy scum in particular?

we are, but it just might look a bit different cos some of us know each other pretty well.

majiffy's ketchup posts look super scummy for him IMO. its "hi I am here! shut up!" posts instead of actually trying to figure out the things he had read so far.

Yep. This.

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hm ok mollie is either trying exceptionally hard or she's town.

She's town.

[Alisae]

If Mollie isn't town and we're having all of these mindmelds I'm going to cry.

[Alisae]

Yeah I'm going to enjoy it too and probably put you in Ride or Die throughout the whole game till XyLo.

[Alisae]

Unoffical VC

Untrod Tripod (4): PenguinPower, Aristophanes, Bambietta Basterbine, Not_Mafia
Bambietta Basterbine (4): Untrod Tripod, Lovebird, Sir Bastion, xRECKONERx
Alisae (1): GuyInFreezer
GuyInFreezer (1): Pirate Mollie
xRECKONERx (1): Alisae

Not Voting (2):
Majiffy
Kokichi Oma

[Alisae]

Everyone inside
Mollie
Lovebird
Ari
PP
And maybe bastion
And maybe kokichi
Is ride or die to me

Reck and majiffy are just scum to me
(Reck we'll talk when I get out of class)

Bambi fells like a scum punching bag to me
Gif could be scum
And UT is just unsorted but isn't scum with reck

I'm missing a person off the top of my head

[Alisae]

Oh yeah lol nm ye that's definitely null

[Alisae]

Please don't lynch it.
Also UT, I want Mollie to hammer it.
I don't TR you enough.
That or someone like Ari, who is never getting shot N1.

Also I want to point out Reck's stance on Majiffy makes sense if they're buddies.

[Alisae]

Like if we ARE lynching Bambi
I want someone who is not me to hammer it
Or someone that is scummy.
Or someone in {Ari, Mollie, maybe Kokichi} to hammer it.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Ma Jiffy

[Alisae]

unvote

I want the hammer

I want it so bad I can taste it

Why the hell would you, someone who's so scumread right now it hurts, want to be the guy town trusts with another night action?

At this rate if you ARE town your not getting shot so the ability won't go to waste sure, but please let someone else have it.

shh adults are talking

... I am NOT moving my vote from you today.

ok hi you're town
But can you cooperate with me?
I want you to calm down and unvote UT.

[Alisae]

Ok I decided UT you pocketted me.

[Alisae]

A. First off, he's town mostly because I feel like his attitude is probably coming from town. Especially from 349
B. You being reasonably frustrated is fine, but I feel like that is clouding your judgment. I want you to calm down and think. Once you do that and if you revote UT there, then fine.
C. I feel like you're approaching the UT read like if you don't unvote it, you'll let it slip by. That's not true, if UT is scum, we WILL see it and we WILL catch it. Trust us please~

[Alisae]

I don't get how #349 could even remotely be town, but I guess Almost50 said nearly the same exact sentence to someone and I town read him for that... It just sucks being on the receiving end of that.

However, I'm not currently unvoting him because if he does end up as today's lynch I'm not trusted enough to be the one to hammer.

I want you to unvote because your judgment is clouded by frustration and you're vote isn't being used in a productive manner that helps Town.

[Alisae]

Reck its moreso I think the AtE is genuine and is coming from town.

[Alisae]

I think I have an idea who Bambi is.
I don't think I've ever played with them.

[Alisae]

Reck its moreso I think the AtE is genuine and is coming from town.

I'm blanking out and am very confused as to how to actually go deeper then that.

[Alisae]

Doesn't matter if you know my other account. It's JaydragonKing. Even have a decent updated wiki for you to check. But I'm not Elsa Jay at the moment, this is Bambietta's time to shine.

UNVOTE:

nailed it

[Alisae]

Reck its moreso I think the AtE is genuine and is coming from town.

ffs, don't read him for aTe, watch what he does

For the most part, prior to Bambi's outburst, I thought Bambi was a scum punching bag.
I feel like their responses to UT are coming from frustrated town over frustrated scum.
To me it just feels like a town lynch.

[Alisae]

I am attempting to come around to respecting UT's accuracy early thanks to Fornite, so if I TR him I am probably sheeping him onto Bambietta which
I kinda want to see bambietta dosomething.jpeg.

lol next game rinse and repeat I guess

Get it to L-2 again, I'll L-1 it and you can hammer (but I want a claim first). I'm only saying this because even though I think its flipping town, I don't like reading their posts, so in that regard its a win-win.

But right now, Ma Jiffy is getting votes. If you think they're scum with Bambi, then I would love your support there.
Also the day is still young, and there are people who can post content (GiF, Majiffy) who haven't done much and I would like them to post more.

[Alisae]

I feel like their responses to UT are coming from frustrated town over frustrated scum.

why

Bare with me, this is going to be hard for me to explain (ESPECIALLY since I'm in class)
I think what makes the frustration genuine is the fact that its not really overdone, and its relatable. I would probably be frustrated too. Not to mention wanting to OMGUS UT SCREAMS Newer!Town > Scum.
If they were scum, I would kinda expect more ALLCAPS SCREAMING and more heavier ATE and just to go all out with the AtE. Here it feels real and as such, I think its towny.
Is this better?

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I feel like their responses to UT are coming from frustrated town over frustrated scum.

why

just staple this to my face so i can look in alisae's direction every time er posts

(btw alisae i just googled to figure out the correct usage of e/eir pronouns so correct me if im doing it wrong)

thank you, but I don't mind that much pronoun wise.

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I feel like their responses to UT are coming from frustrated town over frustrated scum.

why

just staple this to my face so i can look in alisae's direction every time er posts

(btw alisae i just googled to figure out the correct usage of e/eir pronouns so correct me if im doing it wrong)

I love this.
I almost died laughing in class and I had to hold myself back.

[Alisae]

Also I don't mind that much about pronoun wise because I was surrounded by crazy feminists who were crazy about that kind of stuff and yadada. Like, I understand why they are like that, and I respect that, I'm just more chill about it

[Alisae]

You also think Ann is the best girl.





She's not go Makoto/Futaba

[Alisae]

Spoiler: Actually the real best girl is

JOHN CENA

Ok I'm done I need to get back to class and pay attention and give the thread some space

[Alisae]

only if you're scumclaiming to me babe

remember that other game that we played that one time

where mollie derped around and we yelled at her the whole game and got a perfect victory and it was incredible

this might be That Game 2.0

I've got MS Paint running and waiting to make bad images you just say the word

I just saw this post.
Yep, mindmeld about the perfect victory.
Locking in the TR.
Lets go.

[Alisae]

Get it to L-2 again, I'll L-1 it and you can hammer (but I want a claim first). I'm only saying this because even though I think its flipping town

You've said something like this as scum about me. Now I'm getting hesitant about my read on you.

Thank you for this reaction

[Alisae]

I will to ya when I'm finished writing up this post, but while that happens, try to read his posting so far and tell me what you think.

[Alisae]

Ok I'm going to play the Town Glue and make sure we stay cohesive, because I see potential in this being a perfect town victory, we just need to organize ourselves to make that happen.
For the record, here is my own readlist
{Mollie, Kokichi, Ari, PenguinPower, UT, Lovebird, Bambi} - Ride or Die Town Circle
{Bastion} - Probably town
{NM} - lol
{GiF} - Need more data
{Majiffy, Reck} - Scum

Under no circumstance are these people to be considered viable lynches today.

- These people are considered to be either A. Obvious town or B. Better to leave alive/easier to read later. Other exceptions will be marked.
Me (If people have complaints about me being here then we can talk)
Mollie
Ari
PenguinPower
Lovebird
Kokichi
NM (Lynching him is a terrible idea Day 1 because it doesn't help us in any way)

While I won't support lynches on these people as of whatever post this is, others may not have gotten to the same conclusion as I have

Bastion

There is one scum in this pairing

- We will deal with this Day 2.
UT and Reck

We are not lynching anyone until these people post words for us to look at

GiF
Majiffy (Exception since he's a good lynch for today)
Ari

Our lynch today will be in

Majiffy
GiF (If we don't like his posting)
Bambi (I still think he's town btw)

IF ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ANYONE BEING HERE, SAY SO NOW

(That is assuming your name is Lovebird, Mollie, Ari, UT, and Reck)

[Alisae]

Why Majiffy is scum

I think alisae may actually make this fun

Well we know I'm not going to

Later, yo

we cld always lynch majiffy

cos it wld be funny

u fukkin lissen heer

Later, yo

we cld always lynch majiffy

cos it wld be funny

OMG i forgot Majiffy was half my reason for joining this! =D

Expectations ---------




Reality ------------

Now look at your vote...
I'm on a horse.

A+

majiffy and I will likely get stupidly paranoid of each other by d2, (OR WILL WE?) there is no stopping that train.

we will sort each other out. I think. eventually.

mebbe

Why wait till tomorrow?

Actually that makes sense because there's a good chance one of us is dead tomorrow.

I suddenly understand the votes.

... Yeah they're speaking in Green Code. They're all colluding.

I'm sorry to make the rest of you as painfully aware of how well this gif works with that music as I was just made scrolling through this thread.

Vonflare sure knows how to attract the weirdest players.

Not familiar with vonflare, huh?

can we start

No we're going to do this for 20 more pages until we're 2 days out from deadline then rush a vote on whoever seems to be the second or third most annoying because most annoying player is obvtown as fuck don't you know how games work around here now?

majiffy
raya
not mafia
guy in freezer need to post more

You need to pack up all your shit and go sell it at the shit market cuz I don't want it

oh wait
holy shit it's mollie

HI MOLLIE HOW IS LIFE

I'm here too asshole

Untrod Tripod

(5): PenguinPower, Aristophanes, Lovebird, Bambietta Basterbine, Not_Mafia

The fuck is this wagon

It seemed more like he either doesn't like my type of humor or just thinks I'm using it as a cover to not be productive as scum.

Well that's what I've gotten from everyone I've play so far.

Spoiler: Or, and this is going out a limb, it could be your playstyle is scummy.

is it time for me to death tunnel majiffy yet

Feck off

asking for a friend

this isn't a bad thing (and probably a good thing for that matter)
but I can see the MU in you :3

shhh...

I think I gagged a little, in my mouth

Ok so here is where the Majiffy read started. Me and Mollie both cover this read extremely well.

I rather play quake tho then out the read.
I'll out the read laterz
If anyone wants a hint tho, whats the difference between 144 and this post?

Alright guys it was a trick question they're both bad posts that don't really add much to the game and they're both being posted from scum
VOTE: Ma Jiffy

I want people to actually go read the post I linked. They're extremely similar, in that both posts express ideas that is what the thread is currently sharing.
Its a fluff heavy catchup post with an extremely tiny to no thought process built in his reads. A lot of the stuff he is saying contains very common opinions. Example where I linked, he's basicly sheeping the idea to vote group B and scumread LUV, both extremely easy reads for scum!Majiffy to take there. Here he is stating the idea of that the UT wagon is trash (no one said this, but back in our minds we knew: it was trash). This was something that was restated here:

Yeah shit players won't read multiquotes.
Um that's not really something I should answer. Its better if you try to figure out if I'm town or scum yourself.

Can you explain your majiffy read? It just looks like a catch up post to me

Yeah the catchup post is basicly a post that contains a lot of nothing and stuff that's extremely easy to say.
Like, I don't feel like he's scumhunting he's just stating extremely easy opinions to state.

Also added by Pirate Mollie, its a post also functions as a way to remind us that he's here without actually doing anything. Majiffy isn't trying to play the game but moreso coast.

Like, I don't feel like he's scumhunting he's just stating extremely easy opinions to state.

It seems like lots of people aren't really scumhunting. Why does it make majiffy scum in particular?

we are, but it just might look a bit different cos some of us know each other pretty well.

majiffy's ketchup posts look super scummy for him IMO. its "hi I am here! shut up!" posts instead of actually trying to figure out the things he had read so far.

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So I got caught up in Rocket League and forgot about this. I'll try tomorrow night.

This post in of itself makes me think he's scum because for the most part, I feel like if he was town, he would attempt to try more with the playerlist to push reads and actually do things. Here he's nonexistant and doesn't really care.

[Alisae]

Why are we leaving "one scum in this pairing" to day two?

Its moreso because there's 2 other scumfucks we can lynch today, and we'll be able to get a better idea on which one is scum via flips. Its why I rather lynch them later but not now.

[Alisae]

Also, another important reminder.

Not_Mafia has a history of lolhammering things. In attempt to combat this, if you reach L-2, you are claiming at L-2. Once you claimed, we're not going to lynch right away. We are going to discuss and come to agreement on who we want to hammer and why. From there, we'll try to sync up a time where we can hammer as quickly as possible to attempt to avoid A. Scum selfhammers or B. other Lolhammers

This is moreso very important for me and I want this, so please respect my wish here.

And with that said, if there's more important Town Glueing stuff I need to do, I'll come in and post it.
But other then that, I'm off to go play Quake.
Later.

[Alisae]

FYI because 9 times out of 10, I want to be the person to put the person at L-1.

Alright off to Quake, goodbye.

[Alisae]

I like it as a readslist I guess but I'd rather just go along with whatever I see. Not really seeing the point in so much planning.

Also the point of this planing is to try to stay as cohesive as possible and to try to stay as a unit.

[Alisae]

For the most part yeah that's everything and I don't have any problems with most of it.

[Alisae]

IF ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ANYONE BEING HERE, SAY SO NOW

Yes.

Take bambi off the lynch list today.

[Alisae]

Hey Majiffy can you claim as well ty

[Alisae]

Fuck this shit

do you have reads?

it wld probably be best to out them now

I think he scumreads Reck.

[Alisae]

Depends on the ability for the most part.

[Alisae]

mollie I think Majiffy is flipping scum.

[Alisae]

I wanted to hold out on posting this for a bit, but I feel like I get shot tonight. So if there is a protective, please protect me, but otherwise I'm writing this.

I feel like the game is as easy as {Majiffy, Reck, and one of Lovebird/GiF}. Right now, {Majiffy, Reck, Lovebird} is what makes sense for me currently.
Majiffy is a read that has been explained multiple times in thread, I'm not going over that again on why he's scum. His recent posting doesn't really do much to change this. It DOES support my other reads.

Reck I am scumreading based on play AND it makes a lot of sense to be scum with Majiffy actually. I feel like his timing to vote Majiffy is extremely convienent for a bus. And the way he's pushing Majiffy just seems a lot like a bus to me because for the most part, it covers most if not all of the bussing checklist which is:
[X] Have the partner you are bussing distance from you particularly by fos'ing them (IE Majiffy scumreads Reck and Reck is hardpushing Majiffy. Not to mention a lot of how Majiffy is pushing Reck, makes me think that it is scum distancing from each other)
[X] Hard commitment to the push. (When you hardbus, you can't suddenly get off, you have to commit to the bus. And a lot of how Reck is pushing Majiffy comes across like a bus. This especially shows when it comes to his reaction to Majiffy's recent posting)
[X] The timing works as a bus and because of that, it nets Reck cred (Remember the Bambi wagon had just died down. Scum!Reck could have just continued to try to push Bambi, however when it comes to the late game, it wouldn't get him that far. BUT if he pushes Majiffy here, he can potentially try to get bus cred that will help him out for the late game)

Now when it comes to the Lovebird read, I feel like a lot of their reaction to the wagon feels like scum that got cold feet. They can't defend it, because it makes them look bad. They also don't want to bus it for some reason. Like, 528 comes off to me as not really knowing what to do. It also doesn't really come across as a defense that was naturally formed.
GiF is also mostly here because the doublevote seems towny but just don't townread him for that please?

[Alisae]

Also like
Someone on the scumteam HAS to be pushing their scum agenda, they can't just let town roll like this and do whatever.
And right now I don't feel like anyone is really trying to take any real control of the game and are just letting me, mollie, UT, and Reck do things.

Like, the way the gamestate is looking, for the most part its Me, Mollie, Reck, UT, and Kokichi trying to push what we want through it.
Keep in mind I think mollie and Kokichi are most likely, definitely town here.

Everyone else is kinda just supporting us or doing nothing.
There isn't anyone really objecting to the current gamestate.
I feel like this means either
A. Scum are perfectly happy with the Majiffy lynch and its actually town (lol I don't think this is happening) or
B. Scum would benefit from a bus here.

But okay, let's say A IS happening, and me and Mollie are pushing the scum agenda for scum by mislynching Majiffy. Then scum can be in like Bambi or Bastion. Or hell, maybe even Reck is pushing the mislynch. But for the most part, I would maybe expect more dead air when it comes to the Majiffy lynch? Not to mention certain responses just make me think this isn't what's happening (Majiffy fos'ing Reck, Lovebirds stance). So who is pushing the scum agenda here? Either Reck or no one since their agenda is being pushed for them (UT is somewhat included in this). It'll be clearer who could be attempting to do this based on how they approach D2/D3.

Let's say B is happening. This means scum are somewhat pushing their agenda forward. I don't feel like UT is bussing Reck, his vote on UT seems a lot more like "I'm trying to work with the town" then "I am bussing" especialyl considering he stopped hardpushing Bambi. I feel like if anything, scum!UT hardpushes Bambi harder here, or attempts to push Majiffy a bit harder. That leaves Reck, who IS consistently attempting to push the Majiffy waogn through.

If there's someone else who is trying to push a scum agenda through at the moment, I'm kind of having a hard time seeing it at the current moment?

[Alisae]

But yeah that's mostly what I have to say on the gamestate currently?
My evaluation of the gamestate could just be garbage but this is just what I'm feeling atm so...

[Alisae]

I'm objecting to the current gamestate, Alisae.

You're not really doing a good job at it.

--

Me suddenly being scum for not wanting the majiffy lynch is either pre-flip or an attempt to scare me into not defending him, I think.

This post is scummy lol.

[Alisae]

[X] Have the partner you are bussing distance from you particularly by fos'ing them (IE Majiffy scumreads Reck and Reck is hardpushing Majiffy. Not to mention a lot of how Majiffy is pushing Reck, makes me think that it is scum distancing from each other)

Majiffy's post does NOT read like someone who has been informed via mafia PT that there's a bus happening. What about it makes you think that?

[X] Hard commitment to the push. (When you hardbus, you can't suddenly get off, you have to commit to the bus. And a lot of how Reck is pushing Majiffy comes across like a bus. This especially shows when it comes to his reaction to Majiffy's recent posting)

What about Majiffy's reaction was town to you, because I don't think you're going to say with a straight face that it was a town reaction, and I think the people reading it as NAI or town are way more suspicious than me driving home this wagon of righteousness

[X] The timing works as a bus and because of that, it nets Reck cred (Remember the Bambi wagon had just died down. Scum!Reck could have just continued to try to push Bambi, however when it comes to the late game, it wouldn't get him that far. BUT if he pushes Majiffy here, he can potentially try to get bus cred that will help him out for the late game)

"The timing works as a bus" okay??? I have no way to speak to a hypothetical argument that is based purely in moonbeams theoretical land. I literally said SINCE THE START OF THE GAME i had no intentions of keeping my vote on Bambi and it was just there for temporary

a.

you slipped that scum have daytalk lol lol xd

Um, I kinda think thats just a generic response in general to being bussed? It's not really something you have to read the scum PT to do. You see that you're being bussed, and you react accordingly.
b. If I thought it was a town reaction I would have unvoted. In a sense, I AGREE with you, I think Majiffy's reaction indicates that he was scum, but not for the reasons you're suggesting. I feel like it indicates that he's scum because if he was town, I feel like he would of attempted to give us something to work with. It also indicates a giving up reaction to me.

[Alisae]

Everyone else is kinda just supporting us or doing nothing.
There isn't anyone really objecting to the current gamestate.
I feel like this means either
A. Scum are perfectly happy with the Majiffy lynch and its actually town (lol I don't think this is happening) or
B. Scum would benefit from a bus here.

What's that behind Door Number Three???

Iiiiiiiiiiit's... scum are trying to reroute the Majiffy lynch!!

If Majiffy is scum I'm WAY more confident that scum are sitting on the edges and hoping more people like mollie pump the brakes on the wagon than I am that scum are lolbussing with so many viable alternatives

I don't know why this very logical, real scenario doesn't sit right with you

like we literally just finished playing the Valentine's Dance game where EVERY SINGLE PERSON PUSHING SOMEONE HARD WAS TOWN at the beginning, and all three scum stuck to the edges and just let town eat each other. I'm actually having a really hard time believing you're so convinced this can't be happening here when it literally just happened?

I mean yeah, this is something that could happen, but I don't see any resistance to Majiffy in the form of a counterwagon. Like, the way I imagine option 3 happening was if UT was pushing Bambi harder. But I'm not seeing it.
Can you suggest to me who is doing this?

Also, ofc it could be happening, and if Majiffy flips town, I'll approach the gamestate from that direction and adapt.

[Alisae]

Bambi why haven't you voted Majiffy yet?

[Alisae]

Actually better question
how come you never said ANYTHING about Majiffy?

[Alisae]

Then get something to say about him he's a hot topic, and I'm actually kind of shocked you don't have anything to say about what's been a major wagon.

[Alisae]

Also considering I feel like a shitty person whenever I make a reck is scum post
Bambi can also be scum considering they said NOTHING about the Majiffy wagon, when I feel like if they were town, they would have atleast said something about it?
So yeah if we can't have Majiffy today I'll vote Bambi.

[Alisae]

Because I feel like they would have atleast SOME opinion formed. The fact they don't is just...wow...

[Alisae]

lol scumbird scumreads me

[Alisae]

Because I feel like they would have atleast SOME opinion formed. The fact they don't is just...wow...

why do you expect her to have an opinion on a player she does not know, when she is being forced to play the game on the defensive?

I don't think she's being forced to play that defensively atm?

[Alisae]

lol scumbird scumreads me

[Alisae]

When I was "ride or die" town before and now I'm scum pretty much just for what I said about majiffy then either your confidence before was faked or "ride or die" doesn't actually mean a lot to you.

Like
reads are everchanging lmao

[Alisae]

Hey scumbird
entertain the thread with a case on why I'm scum.
Do it.
It'll be funny.

[Alisae]

scumbird kinda reminds me of Pine tbh.

[Alisae]

BUT IT WOULD BE FUNNY

pedit: I want you to give me a read on Majiffy instead of avoiding the topic completely.

[Alisae]

Hey Lovebird
I'm not looking to be justified. Thats something scumfucks do.
I'm looking to be right.

[Alisae]

Okay
here's a treat for ywall.

PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS POST IF YOUR RESPONSE IS META IS GARBAGE, BECAUSE IT IS 100% META

(I can also get into an arguement on how meta based communities also raise town winrates, but that's not important to winning this game atm)

Keep in mind I have a vague memory of Raya replacing out of games she was scum in privately. So I went to go divebomb the replacement queue to see if this was a valid meta tell.
Keep in mind this is going to be going by timeline, so the more recent the link is, the more relevant it is. We're also organizing private rep outs, public rep outs, and just from the result of prods respectively.
Here is a game she replaced out of privately - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST.
Here is a game she replaced out of in her scum PT - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST
And we only got 3 games to work from - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST

Here is a game she replaced out of publicly - She was town here
Here is another game she replaced out publicly - She was town here

Here is a game she almost got replaced then came back and talked it over. - She was scum here. Here the cause is prods.
Here is game she rep'd out of privately - She was TOWN here. The cause here is also prods
And another one - She was also Town here
Oh wait there's more - Town, got rep'd out due to prods
Second to last game -Town got rep'd out due to prods.


THINKING

[Alisae]

Alright now time to see if the same holds true for the Newbie Queue.

[Alisae]

ok no data from the newbie queue.
So yeah.

Please respond with "Meta is trash" below. Thank you, and have a nice day.

[Alisae]

So if you're confident in that meta read, why haven't you pushed on Reck more?

It was actually something I've been meaning to look into the moment Raya replaced out, but haven't mostly because just simply put I haven't gotten around to it.
A confident push didn't come from me when it comes to that angle mostly because it was based on a vague memory that I needed to go verfiy before I pushed it. I also wanted to see if I could try to get a read on Reck's play before doing that research.

[Alisae]

Plus I know a raya scumgame where she didn't rep out anyway.

The arguement here isn't she reps out of scum games.
Its "She only reps out of game privately if she's scum."

[Alisae]

Like I'd imagine Raya scumgames exist where she has stayed in and played.
My arguement here is how she requests reaplcement is alignment indicative.

[Alisae]

Okay
here's a treat for ywall.

PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS POST IF YOUR RESPONSE IS META IS GARBAGE, BECAUSE IT IS 100% META

(I can also get into an arguement on how meta based communities also raise town winrates, but that's not important to winning this game atm)

Keep in mind I have a vague memory of Raya replacing out of games she was scum in privately. So I went to go divebomb the replacement queue to see if this was a valid meta tell.
Keep in mind this is going to be going by timeline, so the more recent the link is, the more relevant it is. We're also organizing private rep outs, public rep outs, and just from the result of prods respectively.
Here is a game she replaced out of privately - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST.

5 posts

Here is a game she replaced out of in her scum PT - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST

1 post

And we only got 3 games to work from - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST

4 posts

Here is a game she replaced out of publicly - She was town here

15 posts

Here is another game she replaced out publicly - She was town here

16 posts

Here is a game she almost got replaced then came back and talked it over. - She was scum here. Here the cause is prods.

25 posts

Here is game she rep'd out of privately - She was TOWN here. The cause here is also prods

16 posts

And another one - She was also Town here

27 posts

Oh wait there's more - Town, got rep'd out due to prods

7 posts

Second to last game -Town got rep'd out due to prods.

2 posts

THINKING

I added a little bonus because lol.
What does this mean?
Absolutely nothing (most likely)

[Alisae]

Okay I seriously am questioning if Uni is a Jester/Lyncher at this point with how much he's going for me but I really don't think that would be in this game.

lol

[Alisae]

Like I'd imagine Raya scumgames exist where she has stayed in and played.
My arguement here is how she requests reaplcement is alignment indicative.

when you are confronted with conflicting factual info, how are you planning to resolve it?

don't scumread reck cos of replacement, scumread reck cos you scumread reck. I currently am.

I don't see how its conflicting when I am attempting to analyze how someone replaces out.

Like for the most part, the part I care about the most when it comes to my reck scumread is his play.

[Alisae]

So if you're confident in that meta read, why haven't you pushed on Reck more?

It was actually something I've been meaning to look into the moment Raya replaced out, but haven't mostly because just simply put I haven't gotten around to it.
A confident push didn't come from me when it comes to that angle mostly because it was based on a vague memory that I needed to go verfiy before I pushed it. I also wanted to see if I could try to get a read on Reck's play before doing that research.

[Alisae]

Okay, so let's vote Reck

I am

wait you did?
If thats where you want to go I'll help you but I still want Majiffy.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Reck

[Alisae]

I think this is Kokichi's towngame :/

[Alisae]

No, I'm staying on you for now. Especially after that post

Hey Kokichi
we're going to play a game its where you give me your vote
Because mollie
is never
ever
ever
a lynch today.

[Alisae]

it wld be nice, to have a walk-through

His posts aren't as indepth as they were during that game. Point in case here:

@Antihero: I'm not sure Venmar is town. I think he is based on gut and the fact he stood out in the crowd for taking my side when it seemed like the whole game was against me. Like I said already, I feel pretty confident I can sort him later. And his first post in our PT was fairly town feeling IMO. I'll continue to evaluate. I also think your kneejerk desire to leave him out is probably bad and due in part to you sippin' that haterade. The one thing I think could make him scum is his story about just refreshing my ISO to see if I offered him to dance. Like, I could see it coming from town, but I think if scumVenmar sensed I was about to ask him to dance, he'd want to jump on that ASAP. That's about the only red flag for me at this point.

I don't think I'm going to read any of Shiro's posts so long as she posts in that heinous pink fot.

Also, I agree with Venmar in voting the Alisae pairing. It's moreso because Joey's predance posting was god awful (and not just in the "oh god someone please put a bullet in my head" way) but also someone (I don't remember who because fuck you all this game has five billion pages) pointed out that Alisae was making a really big attempt early to control the game. I'm not super into that. However, it's not where my vote is gonna go right now, because there's someone else I want dead more. If one of them is town they should leave the dance and save me the headache.

Like I said, I really didn't want Koki to be the one left out and would've preferrerd beeboy. I thought Koki's frustration with my posting style felt genuine and I really didn't see her offering to be the one left out as scum.

Note to go back, if I ever have the stamina, and try to read what happened with that.

(As an aside: this is why spamposting sucks. It makes it a fucking chore to go back and read ANYTHING later.)

I think Alisae's "you activated my trap card" post smacks of lunacy and is also so far off base I don't even know where to begin. I'm not in the business of defending people for them, but I have specific issues with you claiming "pushing to win a debate" somehow means "scum". It doesn't. I push to win debates all the time. chesskid notoriously does it as town where he just shouts until he's wins the argument.

And...is that a real leaving the dance from Alisae? Jesus. Ask and you shall receive.

There's the flip. Well, fuck, that was utterly disappointing. Okay then.

(note: nothing in Alisae's post actually makes Venmar scum. This isn't a cop guilty vs cop claim, this is just pure bad speculation)

Gamma's rage posting feels manufactured in the post-Alisae-flip moments.


@Maki: Talk to me about your Dunn scum read, I'm interested in this product and/or service.

@Elli: Why do you say beeboy is here to just meme?

@chesskid3: Do you think Elli could be scum? *thinking*

@EVERYONE: PLEASE FUCKING CHILL WITH THE SPAMMING.

It is making it way too difficult to catch up after only a few hours away from the game. And shit like "Oh man, I want to go back and read Koki interactions and who pushed for that" is basically impossible at this point due to the number of pages.

This is why you have people saying meta is trash btw.

[Alisae]

when the fuck did mulch get here

[Alisae]

hold on I am waking up
Hi Mulch ily <3

[Alisae]

Sigh
I don't have the energy to 1v1 Mulch or the will to spam the thread with millions of posts too fight him because this was a wonderful pace we had going here and I was having fun.
But this is his scumgame because his push me for the most part isn't really a natural, genuine read its "oh shit, I have to stop the town from townblocing" move.

[Alisae]

dude A. I've done it before AS town ON the same person and B. Its not a fluff post its a "okay I posted something now leave me the fuck alone" post.

[Alisae]

dude first off its moreso I don't have the energy to 1v1 you.
secondly, yeah, ofc its impossible because for the most part, your read is based on "I need to do this" not "I'm trying to be right."
Like that's something thats kind of written all over your posts?

You can go find that post. I'm not going to argue against it, but that doesn't change my read.

[Alisae]

yeah you're breaking the towncore by pushing me like lol?

[Alisae]

Mulch isn't town and he can make people magically townread him because he's good at scum.
I don't think I care anymore, my moral to try to fight him is kinda destroyed anyways.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Bambi
This or I'll vote Ari or whatever

[Alisae]

Also side note
I just want to play a game of fucking quake and not have to deal with this infinite loading screen because Bethesda is a shitty company.

[Alisae]

So like
Here is all of the effort I have to go to to fucking make an attempt to play their game.
Currently I'm at ths loading screen that doesn't go forward.
Sometimes the game doesn't even boot up it gets stuck on a black screen and then crashes.
So I downloaded Elder Scrolls Legends because apparently that has some files that don't come with Quake Champions on steam for some REALLY stupid fucking reason.
BUT GUESS WHAT
That doesn't fucking work
Not to mention, my username for Elder Scrolls is a bunch of random characters and I have no fix to this!!!!!!!!!
So I have to make a Bethesda Account
Then link my steam to it
but guess what, now my Elder Scrolls account name is pernament lol
Download their Launcher
and then download Elder Scrolls Legends AGAIN and on the launcher to attempt to get these files.
So I do that
BUT GUESS WHAT
SURPRISE
IT STILL
DOESN'T
WANT
TO
FUCKING
WORK.

[Alisae]

You can also tailor your posting to get people to TR you.

[Alisae]

What game are you reading?

[Alisae]

Spoiler:

Why Majiffy is scum

I think alisae may actually make this fun

Well we know I'm not going to

Later, yo

we cld always lynch majiffy

cos it wld be funny

u fukkin lissen heer

Later, yo

we cld always lynch majiffy

cos it wld be funny

OMG i forgot Majiffy was half my reason for joining this! =D

Expectations ---------




Reality ------------

Now look at your vote...
I'm on a horse.

A+

majiffy and I will likely get stupidly paranoid of each other by d2, (OR WILL WE?) there is no stopping that train.

we will sort each other out. I think. eventually.

mebbe

Why wait till tomorrow?

Actually that makes sense because there's a good chance one of us is dead tomorrow.

I suddenly understand the votes.

... Yeah they're speaking in Green Code. They're all colluding.

I'm sorry to make the rest of you as painfully aware of how well this gif works with that music as I was just made scrolling through this thread.

Vonflare sure knows how to attract the weirdest players.

Not familiar with vonflare, huh?

can we start

No we're going to do this for 20 more pages until we're 2 days out from deadline then rush a vote on whoever seems to be the second or third most annoying because most annoying player is obvtown as fuck don't you know how games work around here now?

majiffy
raya
not mafia
guy in freezer need to post more

You need to pack up all your shit and go sell it at the shit market cuz I don't want it

oh wait
holy shit it's mollie

HI MOLLIE HOW IS LIFE

I'm here too asshole

Untrod Tripod

(5): PenguinPower, Aristophanes, Lovebird, Bambietta Basterbine, Not_Mafia

The fuck is this wagon

It seemed more like he either doesn't like my type of humor or just thinks I'm using it as a cover to not be productive as scum.

Well that's what I've gotten from everyone I've play so far.

spoiler=Or, and this is going out a limb, it could be your playstyle is scummy./spoiler

is it time for me to death tunnel majiffy yet

Feck off

asking for a friend

this isn't a bad thing (and probably a good thing for that matter)
but I can see the MU in you :3

shhh...

I think I gagged a little, in my mouth

Ok so here is where the Majiffy read started. Me and Mollie both cover this read extremely well.

I rather play quake tho then out the read.
I'll out the read laterz
If anyone wants a hint tho, whats the difference between 144 and this post?

Alright guys it was a trick question they're both bad posts that don't really add much to the game and they're both being posted from scum
VOTE: Ma Jiffy

I want people to actually go read the post I linked. They're extremely similar, in that both posts express ideas that is what the thread is currently sharing.
Its a fluff heavy catchup post with an extremely tiny to no thought process built in his reads. A lot of the stuff he is saying contains very common opinions. Example where I linked, he's basicly sheeping the idea to vote group B and scumread LUV, both extremely easy reads for scum!Majiffy to take there. Here he is stating the idea of that the UT wagon is trash (no one said this, but back in our minds we knew: it was trash). This was something that was restated here:

Yeah shit players won't read multiquotes.
Um that's not really something I should answer. Its better if you try to figure out if I'm town or scum yourself.

Can you explain your majiffy read? It just looks like a catch up post to me

Yeah the catchup post is basicly a post that contains a lot of nothing and stuff that's extremely easy to say.
Like, I don't feel like he's scumhunting he's just stating extremely easy opinions to state.

Also added by Pirate Mollie, its a post also functions as a way to remind us that he's here without actually doing anything. Majiffy isn't trying to play the game but moreso coast.

Like, I don't feel like he's scumhunting he's just stating extremely easy opinions to state.

It seems like lots of people aren't really scumhunting. Why does it make majiffy scum in particular?

we are, but it just might look a bit different cos some of us know each other pretty well.

majiffy's ketchup posts look super scummy for him IMO. its "hi I am here! shut up!" posts instead of actually trying to figure out the things he had read so far.

--

So I got caught up in Rocket League and forgot about this. I'll try tomorrow night.

This post in of itself makes me think he's scum because for the most part, I feel like if he was town, he would attempt to try more with the playerlist to push reads and actually do things. Here he's nonexistant and doesn't really care.

I wanted to hold out on posting this for a bit, but I feel like I get shot tonight. So if there is a protective, please protect me, but otherwise I'm writing this.

I feel like the game is as easy as {Majiffy, Reck, and one of Lovebird/GiF}. Right now, {Majiffy, Reck, Lovebird} is what makes sense for me currently.
Majiffy is a read that has been explained multiple times in thread, I'm not going over that again on why he's scum. His recent posting doesn't really do much to change this. It DOES support my other reads.

Reck I am scumreading based on play AND it makes a lot of sense to be scum with Majiffy actually. I feel like his timing to vote Majiffy is extremely convienent for a bus. And the way he's pushing Majiffy just seems a lot like a bus to me because for the most part, it covers most if not all of the bussing checklist which is:
[X] Have the partner you are bussing distance from you particularly by fos'ing them (IE Majiffy scumreads Reck and Reck is hardpushing Majiffy. Not to mention a lot of how Majiffy is pushing Reck, makes me think that it is scum distancing from each other)
[X] Hard commitment to the push. (When you hardbus, you can't suddenly get off, you have to commit to the bus. And a lot of how Reck is pushing Majiffy comes across like a bus. This especially shows when it comes to his reaction to Majiffy's recent posting)
[X] The timing works as a bus and because of that, it nets Reck cred (Remember the Bambi wagon had just died down. Scum!Reck could have just continued to try to push Bambi, however when it comes to the late game, it wouldn't get him that far. BUT if he pushes Majiffy here, he can potentially try to get bus cred that will help him out for the late game)

Now when it comes to the Lovebird read, I feel like a lot of their reaction to the wagon feels like scum that got cold feet. They can't defend it, because it makes them look bad. They also don't want to bus it for some reason. Like, 528 comes off to me as not really knowing what to do. It also doesn't really come across as a defense that was naturally formed.
GiF is also mostly here because the doublevote seems towny but just don't townread him for that please?

[X] Have the partner you are bussing distance from you particularly by fos'ing them (IE Majiffy scumreads Reck and Reck is hardpushing Majiffy. Not to mention a lot of how Majiffy is pushing Reck, makes me think that it is scum distancing from each other)

Majiffy's post does NOT read like someone who has been informed via mafia PT that there's a bus happening. What about it makes you think that?

[X] Hard commitment to the push. (When you hardbus, you can't suddenly get off, you have to commit to the bus. And a lot of how Reck is pushing Majiffy comes across like a bus. This especially shows when it comes to his reaction to Majiffy's recent posting)

What about Majiffy's reaction was town to you, because I don't think you're going to say with a straight face that it was a town reaction, and I think the people reading it as NAI or town are way more suspicious than me driving home this wagon of righteousness

[X] The timing works as a bus and because of that, it nets Reck cred (Remember the Bambi wagon had just died down. Scum!Reck could have just continued to try to push Bambi, however when it comes to the late game, it wouldn't get him that far. BUT if he pushes Majiffy here, he can potentially try to get bus cred that will help him out for the late game)

"The timing works as a bus" okay??? I have no way to speak to a hypothetical argument that is based purely in moonbeams theoretical land. I literally said SINCE THE START OF THE GAME i had no intentions of keeping my vote on Bambi and it was just there for temporary

a.

you slipped that scum have daytalk lol lol xd

Um, I kinda think thats just a generic response in general to being bussed? It's not really something you have to read the scum PT to do. You see that you're being bussed, and you react accordingly.
b. If I thought it was a town reaction I would have unvoted. In a sense, I AGREE with you, I think Majiffy's reaction indicates that he was scum, but not for the reasons you're suggesting. I feel like it indicates that he's scum because if he was town, I feel like he would of attempted to give us something to work with. It also indicates a giving up reaction to me.

Okay
here's a treat for ywall.

PLEASE DO NOT READ THIS POST IF YOUR RESPONSE IS META IS GARBAGE, BECAUSE IT IS 100% META

(I can also get into an arguement on how meta based communities also raise town winrates, but that's not important to winning this game atm)

Keep in mind I have a vague memory of Raya replacing out of games she was scum in privately. So I went to go divebomb the replacement queue to see if this was a valid meta tell.
Keep in mind this is going to be going by timeline, so the more recent the link is, the more relevant it is. We're also organizing private rep outs, public rep outs, and just from the result of prods respectively.
Here is a game she replaced out of privately - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST.

5 posts

Here is a game she replaced out of in her scum PT - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST

1 post

And we only got 3 games to work from - She was scum here. The cause of the replacement was REQUEST

4 posts

Here is a game she replaced out of publicly - She was town here

15 posts

Here is another game she replaced out publicly - She was town here

16 posts

Here is a game she almost got replaced then came back and talked it over. - She was scum here. Here the cause is prods.

25 posts

Here is game she rep'd out of privately - She was TOWN here. The cause here is also prods

16 posts

And another one - She was also Town here

27 posts

Oh wait there's more - Town, got rep'd out due to prods

7 posts

Second to last game -Town got rep'd out due to prods.

2 posts

THINKING

I added a little bonus because lol.
What does this mean?
Absolutely nothing (most likely)

okay I think the pedit has to do with Reck
But what game have you been reading to miss
All of these posts.

[Alisae]

Like
Fuck off with the "ali is pushing Majiffy for fluff posting" shit
Part of why I scumread your own play is because thats a complete misrepresentation of the push and makes me think you're trying to spin the narative that I'm pushing fluff posting and thats scummy. Like I'm not pushing Majiffy for fluff posting and if you read my posts you would see that. The fact that you're ignoring that completely makes me think you're making this push to try to break town cohesion.

[Alisae]

READ MY POSTS.

[Alisae]

ITS NOT THAT HARD MULCH HOLY FUCK

[Alisae]

VOTE: Ari

[Alisae]

thats a pretty accurate way to get a read imo

[Alisae]

Ari should claim

[Alisae]

Ari your the top wagon

[Alisae]

Honestly Ari I would like a claim -_-

[Alisae]

Kokichi you're not allowed to scumread Mollie

[Alisae]

Yeah

[Alisae]

Kokichi you're not allowed to scumread Mollie

Then maybe tell her to stop being scummy.

mollie stop being scummy to kokichi

Ok now you can give me your vote
VOTE: Bambi

[Alisae]

there is likely a 0% chance i get shot tonight since scum have seen how much push there is for me around the edges. i should get the hammer

koki is a very possible kill target with how many people are scumreading her

Oh hell no

[Alisae]

Also, another important reminder.

Not_Mafia has a history of lolhammering things. In attempt to combat this, if you reach L-2, you are claiming at L-2. Once you claimed, we're not going to lynch right away. We are going to discuss and come to agreement on who we want to hammer and why. From there, we'll try to sync up a time where we can hammer as quickly as possible to attempt to avoid A. Scum selfhammers or B. other Lolhammers

This is moreso very important for me and I want this, so please respect my wish here.

And with that said, if there's more important Town Glueing stuff I need to do, I'll come in and post it.
But other then that, I'm off to go play Quake.
Later.

[Alisae]

Oh I doidnt think of how selfhammets would screw us out of powers!

Hammets

[Alisae]

Alisae, you know not_mafia is already on the wagon right?

That's not important

[Alisae]

Cards on the table depending on how this is answered.

@Not_Mafia: Do you have in your role a restriction put on you if you are the one to hammer?

Yes

Ok CARDS FULL ON THE TABLE

I have the same restriction and I think all town players do

Meaning I think Bambi is scum (the rule wasnt in her claim) and I think Kokichi is scum trying to reclaim whatever her role is via hammer and doesnt realise there is such restriction

I dont

[Alisae]

Please don't do anything till I get home

[Alisae]

Ok let’s lynch Bambi

You can wait 3-5 hours tops

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

HOLY FUCK UNVOTE AND STOP WE CAN REVOTE LATER I DON'T WANT A LYNCH WHILE I'M GONE

[Alisae]

can we railroad this lynch through now just to piss off Alisae please

Glgl doing it in an hour

[Alisae]

I'm just busting your balls

Ik tbh I think it would be funny. Even moreso if it flipped scum.

Regardless I just missed my train and the next one isn't for 20 minutes

[Alisae]

Mollie UT or PP can have the hammer, prefer Mollie
Tbh I felt like defending it but the more I think about it the more I think A it's not worth it and B it's probably scum

[Alisae]

VOTE: Bambi
ok I thought I had more to say tbh :/

[Alisae]

thats L-2 btw.

[Alisae]

more

[Alisae]

Um.
I would certainly prefer Reck or Mulch more.
But I'll do Bambi and I kind of want a flip to work with?

Kinda don't buy the claim myself either, and even if its true, I think it could be scum claiming their real role.

[Alisae]

Like I'm kinda interpretting the claim as "I am scum claiming something powerful so I scare people into hammering me."

[Alisae]

When did my read change?

pedit: I held up the game because at first glance I thought "Hey, people aren't buying this, and that makes me think its town" but the more I thought about the more I kept on thinking "Ya know, I am really don't buy this."

[Alisae]

Was that hammer or L-1?
pedit: Ehhhh I rather you didn't but ask mollie.

[Alisae]

I mean
if we can flashwagon Reck that would be preferable.

[Alisae]

I guess I'll start writing a final will and testament.

ok you can write this.

[Alisae]

mollie is town
Ari is town
PP is town
Kokichi is probably town tbh :/
GiF honestly I think I am coming around to him being town
Bastion tbh I think it might be town?

NM no fucking idea but probs town

I want to TR lovebird but Idunno :/

UT I kinda just want to be town.

that leaves Reck (who is playing a good game btw), Mulch, and Bambi.

uggggh I hate this :/

[Alisae]

Like
It feels impossible to even attempt a Reck or Mulch wagon tbh and I kinda hate the gamestate because of that.
Idunno it just feels like the energy I can attempt to be pushing in those spots is just, not worth it to me. And I would feel a lot better if those were the main wagons.
I'm also going to feel like shit if trusting UT is not the thing to be doing because Bambi flips town.

[Alisae]

GiF
who do YOU want to wagon

[Alisae]

PP I am dictating the hammer to You, mollie, or UT.
I mean you can disagree with UT sure, but are you disagreeing with mollie?

[Alisae]

I'm not opposed to Kokichi hammering
but I think mollie is.

[Alisae]

no scumfuck ever shoots Kokichi N1.
no one.

[Alisae]

Reck is half right, I explained how we approach the hammer and I wanted that to respected.
He's also wrong in that I don't want him to have a hammer like, ever

[Alisae]

Dayvig: Kokichi

Bye <3

[Alisae]

WHAT IS
THE PLAN

[Alisae]

I think they're saying troll Kokichi <3

[Alisae]

How did we lose this game

[Alisae]

How did we lose this game

Spoiler: A recent photograph of me

ur early reads were great though

[Alisae]

3 of my favorite newbies played in this game.

[Alisae]

How was I supposed to counter his 'mechanically cleared town'? This is an honest question, actually. If anyone cares to answer, that would be great.

Role =/ Alignment.