Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

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Post Post #3825 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:02 am

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Day 4, Votecount 16


3 Aristophanes (Firebringer, Cheetory6, Chara)
2 Ginngie (Patrick, UnaBombaH)
1 Chara (Kmd4390)
1 Firebringer (implosion)
1 UnaBombaH (Ginngie)

2 Unvote (Aristophanes, Spiffeh)

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The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-23 01:00:00), on Friday, February 23 at 1:00 am EST.


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Post Post #3826 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:06 am

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In post 3824, Kmd4390 wrote:I mean. I did see him claim scum once to try getting two scum teams to shoot him and it almost worked. He was so convincing that I could have sworn he was scum in that game before I looked back on in a couple of weeks ago.
To clarify something: I dislike fakeclaiming as town, but this particular game kmd is referencing, I CLAIMED SCUM IN TWILIGHT AS A TOWNIE, as a last ditch effort To try and give us a chance To win. (multiball, tried to make both scumteams shoot me)

I do not otherwise fakeclaim as town, and if I ever leave crumbs, I mean it.
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Post Post #3827 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:10 am

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I'm also pleading that we don't force Ari to claim, but instead all ask for our investigative to step forward, and claim their role, but no results yet.
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Post Post #3828 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:14 am

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Una there's no guarantee that we have "our investigative". There could be multiple investigative roles, or none at all.

Regardless of any of that my feelings on massclaim right now is that it's hard to tell if it's a good thing or a bad thing, but i personally just want more info to work with. And @Chara, I think you at least somewhat underestimate what setup speculation is capable of. It's very difficult to do well here, especially since there's a scum role which only had a partial flip, but it is still useful.
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Post Post #3829 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:16 am

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Firebringer is still my best guess for scum atm. But I really don't feel great about it.

What are the reasons we're writing off Spiffeh? He's done townish things but he's also just constantly substituted telling us that he's town and selfmetaing for actual content.
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Post Post #3830 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:19 am

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I kind of feel like Spiff would hate winning here as scum with how he's performed. Like, he felt annoyed when everyone called his performance in biochem a lurkerscum win. I suspect he'd be kind of embarrassed by winning Team Mafia by underplaying this hard?
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Post Post #3831 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:21 am

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Also, I'm still feeling like waiting until Wednesday to do anymore claimstuff is probably a good call just so everyone can check in and voice opinion on massclaim just in case they feel like there's some kind of strong reason we shouldn't be doing it here.
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Post Post #3832 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:21 am

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In post 3830, Cheetory6 wrote:I kind of feel like Spiff would hate winning here as scum with how he's performed. Like, he felt annoyed when everyone called his performance in biochem a lurkerscum win. I suspect he'd be kind of embarrassed by winning Team Mafia by underplaying this hard?
I was just about to ask your opinion on this lol
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Post Post #3833 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:23 am

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In post 3826, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 3824, Kmd4390 wrote:I mean. I did see him claim scum once to try getting two scum teams to shoot him and it almost worked. He was so convincing that I could have sworn he was scum in that game before I looked back on in a couple of weeks ago.
To clarify something: I dislike fakeclaiming as town, but this particular game kmd is referencing, I CLAIMED SCUM IN TWILIGHT AS A TOWNIE, as a last ditch effort To try and give us a chance To win. (multiball, tried to make both scumteams shoot me)

I do not otherwise fakeclaim as town, and if I ever leave crumbs, I mean it.
My point was more that you are capable of being a good bullshitter. I believe you that of you fakeclaim in this game, it means you are probably scum. I dont think you'd do it as town considering that's already been done this game and led to a quickly check on town.
implosion wrote: Regardless of any of that my feelings on massclaim right now is that it's hard to tell if it's a good thing or a bad thing, but i personally just want more info to work with. And @Chara, I think you at least somewhat underestimate what setup speculation is capable of. It's very difficult to do well here,
Thats where I am except that it's been discussed enough now that it should just happen.

Preview edit: Spiff for me would be purely PoE. I don't really have a read on him at all.
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Post Post #3834 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:23 am

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In post 3827, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm also pleading that we don't force Ari to claim, but instead all ask for our investigative to step forward, and claim their role, but no results yet.
you're going to need an amazing reason for asking investigatives to tell the last scum what kind of results they could have before the scum is forced to claim.
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Post Post #3835 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:23 am

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In post 3830, Cheetory6 wrote:Like, he felt annoyed when everyone called his performance in biochem a lurkerscum win.
The fact that it has happened before doesn't exactly make me feel better about it.

Do you think that annoyance would be sufficient motivation for him to be more active in this game? I feel like efforting as scum isn't as simple as not wanting to have a win be called a lurker win.
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Post Post #3836 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:24 am

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Also,
V/LA til Friday


I'm working today and tomorrow. Wednesday and Thursday are for my family. I'll check in where I can but otherwise I'm back to normal Friday night after my wife goes to work.
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Post Post #3837 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:25 am

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In post 3834, Chara wrote:
In post 3827, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm also pleading that we don't force Ari to claim, but instead all ask for our investigative to step forward, and claim their role, but no results yet.
you're going to need an amazing reason for asking investigatives to tell the last scum what kind of results they could have before the scum is forced to claim.
yeah the one thing i'm really confident with atm about una is that his reason for wanting claims to go like this, whatever that reason may be, isn't as good as he thinks it is.

Although I doubt he's doing this as scum. But hey i said the same thing abut cabd so :largeshrugemoji:
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Post Post #3838 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:27 am

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In post 3835, implosion wrote:Do you think that annoyance would be sufficient motivation for him to be more active in this game? I feel like efforting as scum isn't as simple as not wanting to have a win be called a lurker win.
I feel like it'd be a factor. Probably not enough to write him off as town.
His reactions to Ginngie/Eddie on D3 also look real to me too though.
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Post Post #3839 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:30 am

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In post 3834, Chara wrote:you're going to need an amazing reason for asking investigatives to tell the last scum what kind of results they could have before the scum is forced to claim.
like.. I just said that "no results".
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Post Post #3840 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:31 am

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Fuck

This is such a time waster i hate it
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Post Post #3841 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:37 am

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In post 3830, Cheetory6 wrote:I kind of feel like Spiff would hate winning here as scum with how he's performed. Like, he felt annoyed when everyone called his performance in biochem a lurkerscum win. I suspect he'd be kind of embarrassed by winning Team Mafia by underplaying this hard?
lol @ everyone who was salty about that

But I think this is a bad reason to town read me

A more accurate reason is that I wouldn't be this unhelpful as scum
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Post Post #3842 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:37 am

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P.S. I have an hour or two to spare soon so I'm gonna maybe do things?!?!?!?

Who's excited?!?!?!
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Post Post #3843 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:38 am

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In post 3837, implosion wrote:yeah the one thing i'm really confident with atm about una is that his reason for wanting claims to go like this, whatever that reason may be, isn't as good as he thinks it is.
Could be. But I also feel like I know what type of a role the remaining scum has (if not Vanilla).
I also feel rather confident that we have at least one investigative role, and I think It's more likely a role-investigative.
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Post Post #3844 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:39 am

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In post 3842, Spiffeh wrote:P.S. I have an hour or two to spare soon so I'm gonna maybe do things?!?!?!?

Who's excited?!?!?!
I am!!
But I'm off to bed now, so..
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Post Post #3845 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:43 am

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In post 3839, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 3834, Chara wrote:you're going to need an amazing reason for asking investigatives to tell the last scum what kind of results they could have before the scum is forced to claim.
like.. I just said that "no results".
Yeah that's not what Chara is saying.

It's saying that for instance if someone says "hey, i'm a rolecop" then even if they don't claim their results, suddenly it informs the last scum if they need to be truthful about their role or if they can safely fakeclaim.

Etc.

(correct me if I'm wrong, Chara)
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Post Post #3846 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:53 am

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I didn't claim because I hadnt been officially asked.

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Post Post #3847 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:16 am

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In post 3846, Aristophanes wrote:I didn't claim because I hadnt been officially asked.

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Post Post #3848 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:18 am

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In post 3829, implosion wrote:Firebringer is still my best guess for scum atm. But I really don't feel great about it.

What are the reasons we're writing off Spiffeh? He's done townish things but he's also just constantly substituted telling us that he's town and selfmetaing for actual content.
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Post Post #3849 (ISO) » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:41 am

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In post 3845, implosion wrote:
In post 3839, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 3834, Chara wrote:you're going to need an amazing reason for asking investigatives to tell the last scum what kind of results they could have before the scum is forced to claim.
like.. I just said that "no results".
Yeah that's not what Chara is saying.

It's saying that for instance if someone says "hey, i'm a rolecop" then even if they don't claim their results, suddenly it informs the last scum if they need to be truthful about their role or if they can safely fakeclaim.

Etc.

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