Large Normal 210 - Endgame

[Dunkerdoodles]

VC 1.2

Vote Count 1.2

There are 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes for a lynch

(4) Lovebird:

Aneninen, Fro99er, TwoInAMillion, rb

(2) Lil Uzi Vert:

brassherald, Transcend

(1) UnaBombaH:

TwentyThreeNineteen

(1) Kokichi Oma:

texcat

(1) Aneninen:

Macabre

(1) brassherald:

Kokichi Oma

(1) TwoInAMillion:

UnaBombaH

(1) rb:

Lovebird

(1) Carcalilly:

Lil Uzi Vert

(1) Jodaxq:

Mulch

(0) TwentyThreeNineteen:

(0) Mulch:

(0) Assemblerotws:

(0) Macabre:

(0) texcat:

(0) Transcend:

(0) Fro99er:

Not Voting:

Jodaxq, Assemblerotws, Carcalilly

Mod Notes: Happy Valentine's Day!

Day ends in (expired on 2018-02-22 22:00:00)

[Kokichi Oma]

We could just vig kokichi and not worry about his alignment

Howzat

Not going to work.

[Kokichi Oma]

Koki's post was like really stinky bait. I felt myself being drawn towards it but I kinda new better than to actually take it to mind. I personally would've done so as scum out of aggression and paranoia.

But you literally just said I'm scum, so that doesn't make any sense.

It’s not because of that. The words you use are a little too imposing. It could be caused by playstyle but to me it’s a little scummy, and it scares me.

Then Why do you scumread text for scum reading me?

[Transcend]

We could just vig kokichi and not worry about his alignment

Howzat

Not going to work.

ohohohooooooooooo

[Mulch]

Kokichi just claimed bulletproof lmao

they are confirmed town

[Transcend]

VOTE: jodaxq

pedit yeh dude i saw

[Transcend]

HURT: luv

[Transcend]

also claimng bp =/= conf town

ther's bp scum you kno

[Transcend]

but he's prob town

hey where the fuck is anyone

[Aneninen]

It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out
It doesn't matter much to me.

I mean, it's getting hard to catch up with everything.

Pigeon, give all the opinions. That's what this game is about.
Also, 2inamil is town. I have zero doubts.

As for the wagon, frankly, I don't remember what I wanted to say. It's morning here, and I had something in my mind yesterday evening. It wasn't the size, I guess, it was something about Lovebird or a reaction to 2InaMillion or...? I hope I'll find it later.
As for 2InaMillion himself, I'll see what's new. But I don't get your doubtless townread on him.

Why was she scummier than anyone else?

It was just gut. Quoting the post and voting and nothing else just stood out to me more than anything else.

I can believe it was just gut. But I can't believe you didn't have any stronger scumread at that point.

The whole 209–217 was terrible.

(And I'm curious whether there would be anyone pointing it out.)
2InaMillion gave no reasons at all, neither for scumreading Lovebird, nor for Townreading Frogger. Especially the

"It's day 1, what kind of real answer are you expecting?"

pinged me in the wrong way.
I didn't like Lovebird's question about Frogger either. I can't put my finger on it but she seemed to try to get rid of a scumread on her. Although, her 217 made sense.
Rb's vote felt opportunistic, Mulch's vote and unvote simply pigeon poop.

there are no wagons I like

What wagon would you like to see?

Okay, still kind of doubt it but I guess.
VOTE: rb

Yeah go ahead and explain this one

His vote on me seemed opportunistic. He was calling someone else obvscum and still voted me, didn't seem to care about his own read or getting people to follow him.

That!

I didn't like Brassherald's 232 at all. Mulch had done much more than he'd pointed out. His Rb-read was pigeon poop. Frogger's okay. The Transcend read, pointing out the "Vig kill" alone shows how shallow his reads are. Lilly and 2InaMillion are reads I don't get. Lovebird's was a tiptoe-around. The null on Macabre, Kokichi, Una may have been be okay. The read on me was wtf, he had more links to my posts alone than to anything else. And the vote was on a low-content player. It was typically something scum could do to avoid collecting enemies.

Compare it to Transcend's 234. Here, we find detailed explanations, eg. check out the one on Frogger! There are things I don't get, on the other hand, eg. the townread on Carcalilly, Macabre and the lean town on 2InaMillion.

I don't think LoveBird has been scummy. If he flips scum it's random chance imo

Whut?

That’s a horrible reason to scumread me mulch.
I also think you realized you invented a dumb reason and that’s why you unvoted

VOTE: Frogger
I've decided you're scum after all

Eigh?

ATTN THOSE WHO TR LOVEBIRD:

(5) Lovebird: Aneninen, Transcend, Fro99er, TwoInAMillion, rb

If Love is town then who is scum on the mislynch? Or is it an all town motivated mislynch?

No idea and I don't care

Spoiler:

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

Mulch, Una, Carca, Rb, Twoinamillion, Transcend
Kokichi, Macabre, Lovebitd
Frogger, 2319, Uzi, Aninemen, Texcat, Brass, Jodax, Assemble

Town
Towny
Null

Not a single scumread? What the ...?!

4 scum? I feel like lynching in lower bracket hits scum 40% of the time tbh

And this addition!
Do we know how many scum are there? 4 might be a safe assumption, I guess, or this might have been a slip? Even if it wasn't a slip, the next part makes it even worse. There are eight names in the lowest line, and the chance for finding a scum there is 40%??? Where was that from? How does that add up? Why do I think Mulch knows exactly who the scum are and how many are there?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mulch

It's not only this. It's also the whole part above. The way he wanted to act like a "peacemaker" earlier. And the start with the idea of lynching a lurker.

Going on later.

[Aneninen]

Self-reminder.
Some of my earlier questions haven't been answered yet. (Although this may have happened on the later pages.)

[Macabre]

I see a reality where bad people threaten to kill one another to deter anyone from trying. There should be a murder!

[Macabre]

I see you are motivated by your bowels, my dove. Can we have insight on your other organs? I insist.

[Macabre]

The Frog draws straws of bad conclusions. They will surely die a lonely death.

[Fro99er]

The Frog draws straws of bad conclusions. They will surely die a lonely death.

tell me which conclusions I am drawing poorly, in your view

[Macabre]

Mulch would not proclaim Lovebird's innocence with a bad example! Bad straw, good Frog, untimely death! Only the fools and the beautiful die young.

[Fro99er]

Mulch would not proclaim Lovebird's innocence with a bad example! Bad straw, good Frog, untimely death! Only the fools and the beautiful die young.

But I thought you were wary of Mulch? Where did that change?

[Macabre]

Mulch is careful, so I am also careful. The Frog should be careful too.

[Fro99er]

Mulch is careful, so I am also careful. The Frog should be careful too.

You don't need to tell me how to play with mulch.

I've played extensively with mulch recently. One scum game and one town game of his in like the last month, and we had a few games together before I site flaked for a while about 7-8 months ago.

In the two recent games, the most recent one was the scum game and I was too careful with mulch and fell into a I love mulch trap.

Because, well, I think mulchy is great fun and I hate scum reading my friends incorrectly (as I said).

But I'm gonna push what I find odd because that's my style and I always want answers.

I don't scumread mulch without something catching my eye. I'd prefer to townread mulchy from the start, always.

[Fro99er]

I wasn't a fan of Fro9 voting Love, then brass, then Love again because "Ane was voting there" when that was his RVS vote. ust a little quirky nothing too alarming at this currently point in time.

I actually wanted to talk about this.

I voted love because I saw you vote there and wanted to wagon given I also was unsure then re-sure on them from my post 150

But I had a stronger scumread of brass and I realized RB was voting brass and I thought it was equal wagons (you and RB each voting a different person).

Then I read ane's post 128 where ane actually pointed out scummy things about Lovebird (which came after my brass vote in 127), and ISO'd ane and realized ane was also voting lovebird, so it was actually 2 votes for lovebird to 1 vote for brass, so I went to the larger wagon because wagons. I knew ane's vote was from RVS, but after they also scumread Lovebird in 128 it was a legit two votes from transcend and ane, instead of a legit vote and a leftover RVS vote.

THat's literally my thought process behind that.

[Aneninen]

VOTE: Brassheld
I can't tell if bad town or scum but needs to go
Scumreading people for saying "I'm town."
Unless somebody has a reason this guy is town...

Utterly wrong. Scum need to get lynched, not bad townies. By the way, he wasn't the only one who started scumreading others because of posting "I'm town". I'm not saying Brass's town but this is not the thing why people are scumreading him. If he's not scum, you're just trying to find an easy lynch here.

Ahhh I can't believe there's so many posts in this game already. I'm very busy today. I will get caught up tonight.

Honestly this is just giving me wolfy vibes
I probably shoulden't scumread it
but I do
What to do what to do

I just can feel the lovebird mislynch coming
Can just FEEL it
Also thoughts on uzi? Pretty nullscum start if you ask me

I simply can't see a town motivation behind these posts either.

I'd expect everyone to get used to the hi-welcome-im-

(color=green)TOWN(/green)

Better not.

I mean, that's just false. scum and town like assuring that they are town. I've seen it as both. Scum AND town push policy lynches. And you are quite right- I heavily dislike your scumread of me. It makes me feel like you could be scum.
I mean, how am I supposed to tell the difference if you just don't know how to play, or are scum hiding behind it?

Wait-oh. So, you scumread someone because they scumread you?

For instance, if a cop comes to your house, and the first thing out of your mouth is "I didn't do it!" What are the police going to do? They'll investigate why you felt the need to say that, unless it was an obvious joke or something.
I cannot evaluate the tone of your saying it, so I can't say it was a joke.

I can't see why these things are the same.

anyways this was probably not a tvt duel since those are surprisingly rare on this website
but whatever we can dissect that later

What were you talking about here? Why do you think it's rare?

VOTE: Jodax

I'm feeling you man. I don't even feel the scum vibes I felt before. I think your willingness to go after me considering you are a new player is relatively towny.

The latter part may be okay, but the vote is WTF?
Also, we should remember the whole interaction above if either Mulch or Brassherald flips scum. What if it was a scum-vs-scum puppet show?

Tex pointed out kokichi has had this sort of opening before twice, both *as town*. I’m both of those cases they didn’t feel the need to make a joke about being not scum.

As far as I remember Texcat was doing similar things before.

Lilly is 3rd party

So, I'm not the only one who hasn't read the game rules...

[Fro99er]

ane actually pointed out scummy things about Lovebird

which was the same thing I pointed out at the end of my lovebird read in 125.

I actually feel good about ane town this game because I feel like we're on the same page w.r.t. both lovebird and mulch...and it's not something where one has mimicked the other, but we've both kinda independently come to these things around similar times.

pedit: hi ane! (also do you prefer another shorter name?)

[Fro99er]

As far as I remember Texcat was doing similar things before.

I was referring to what tex said about koki. I didn't give a read on tex yet because I'm unsure.

[Fro99er]

also claimng bp =/= conf town

ther's bp scum you kno

and there's also fake crumbs you kno

Like thats a pretty crappy conclusion for mulch to jump to.

[Fro99er]

also I see ZERO town benefit in pointing out a BP crumb on D1