Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[Cheetory6]

@Chara at one point you realized that you were meta-ing Mulch all wrong and said you'd have to reevaluate that read because of it.

You haven't really mentioned him since, so what is your read there now?

ie:
this is a weird thing to do if your goal is to try to get Kagami lynched while pushing Mulch.

[Ether]

Day 4, Votecount 21

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3 Aristophanes (Firebringer, Cheetory6, Chara)
2 Ginngie (Patrick, UnaBombaH)
1 Chara (Kmd4390)
1 Spiffeh (implosion)
1 UnaBombaH (Ginngie)

2 Unvote (Aristophanes, Spiffeh)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2018-02-23 01:00:00), on Friday, February 23 at 1:00 am EST.

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[Spiffeh]

Cheet I'm glad I have you here to defend my honor

[Cheetory6]

Spiff who is scum
why haven't you voted anyone today?

[Spiffeh]

Not sure yet. Without any more investigation I'd say Ari or implosion.

I haven't voted because I still haven't looked at everyone's interactions with flipped scum which I plan to continue later this evening

[Kmd4390]

Or maybe some power role claimed VT to remain hidden

Well, yeah. A doc could do that or an investigative without a useful result could do that.

cum obviously claimed VT here.

All this really means is you think unabomb is obvtown. Why?

___________

I've read through page 159.

[implosion]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Aristophanes]

I'm here

Time to do some reading and do this!

[implosion]

lol.

[Aristophanes]

lmfao that timing!

Love you Implo

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Aristophanes

I'm here

Time to do some reading and do this!

[Aristophanes]

If we go with this townblock and we miss a scum today, you have scum in that block.

???
Why?

It's like..a very simple choice for today that flips scum, or the last scum is actually on a high-ishly townread slot.

Just a hunch I got.

Yeah, this makes no sense as a logic leap I hope you know...

[Aristophanes]

I just read pages 143-150 and it all looks useless to me. All seemingly town going after town, and Spiffeh getting prodded then going V/LA and supporting a massclaim.

Going to bed if my wisdom teeth will let me.

[Kmd4390]

Your lack of answer has been noted.

I noticed that too but I'm not sure it means much to be honest.

{cheet, chara}
{kmd, una}
{patrick?}
{aristophanes}
{spiffeh, ginngie, firebringer}

discuss

I'm more like:
{Ginngie}
{Firebringer}
{Aris}
{Cheet, Patrick}
{Spiff, Implosion }
{Unabomb, Chara}

We don't agree on much here.

Chara/Ginngie scumteam, game solved.

Um...

ew

I see what you mean about nulls, but BOTH buddies? I dunno...

I went through basically half the day (before rereading) with Cabd as my only scum read. He had done nothing worth town reading. The friendly neighbor claim brought him UP to null as I already pointed out.

If scum who knew he was going to claim friendly neighbor from PT talk, that sounds like exactly what they'd do though...

Can we just lynch aristophanes?

I don't wanna.

[implosion]

I don't wanna.

neither do i but he literally said he's obvscum.

Cheet, I had no laptop access (well, I did but apparently I can't access Mac's wifi anymore) so I continued with surface level posting. I have now developed a huge headache and thus am tabling this for tomorrow evening. I know, excuses and no follow up are my scumgame markers to a T, but gimme a day before you string me up for it.

Of I never follow through I am obvscum. When I do follow through you'll see I'm just not all here.

and i still kinda think he's town

but it feels like he's not gonna deliver until he's dead, or at least very close

[Kmd4390]

I don't want to Lynch people I think are town just because they "don't deliver". I want to Lynch people I think could be scum.

[implosion]

if ari actually never delivers content, then i do think he's scum.

It's sort of like the halting problem. It's possible to be confident that he's town if he is town, because he'll eventually do something to make himself clearly town. If he's scum, the proverbial turing machine will never halt, because to halt it would have to become obvious town.

So I'm trying to speed up that process.

(and no, i'm not especially worried about ari knowing my vote is only pressure, because he has a lot of votes and actually now that i look at it ginngie isn't on his wagon and he's at l-2)

Unvote

but seriously ari. you need to give reads and justifications and do shit. Like, now. I really don't think you're scum. I feel like I have no choice but to think that you are more as time goes on. But I really don't think you are.

[Kmd4390]

I just don't buy the meta point that if Aris is town, he'll definitely start doing more and if he doesn't he has to be scum. I just saw him get mislynch Day 1 for not doing anything in this game:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=72907

I'm also not the only one here who saw that happen.

[Patrick]

I just read pages 143-150 and it all looks useless to me. All seemingly town going after town, and Spiffeh getting prodded then going V/LA and supporting a massclaim.

who is scum?

[Ginngie]

(and no, i'm not especially worried about ari knowing my vote is only pressure, because he has a lot of votes and actually now that i look at it ginngie isn't on his wagon and he's at l-2)

I audibly laughed

[Cheetory6]

kmd I'm still waiting for all of Mathdino's detailed reasoning for every single one of his reads
we need his presence in this game
I don't know what to do without it.

No but seriously why am I number 3 on his lynchlist.
I still want to know.
Why.
In detail.
I want every detail.
Of his read.

I'm definitely asking because I'm sorting you.
That's my intention here.

[Cheetory6]

All seemingly town going after town

Who are you talking about here?
Who are the town going after town?

[Cheetory6]

Not sure yet. Without any more investigation I'd say Ari or implosion.

I haven't voted because I still haven't looked at everyone's interactions with flipped scum

which I plan to continue later this evening

wow how embarrassing

@Patrick

, can you walk me through your implosion townread?

[UnaBombaH]

I lost all motivation for this game with D4.
I never intended for my claim to be wasted like this, I hoped to be able to whip it out in a situation where it would actually benefit us, and that is why I was so wildly flailing/fishing today.

I want to lynch Ginngie because I despise the idea of scum!Ginngie winning after what she pulled D3.
I want to lynch Ari because he provides NOTHING to the conversation. He promised a catch-up, and he "cleared" that with "found nothing useful" and shaded my two posts. Great job.
I want to lynch kmd because I've actually had a tingle of a scumread on them through-out the game, and I feel like they'd probably make the most sense too. But notice how kmd is only third here? That is how annoyed I am with this game.

[Kmd4390]

Cheet, Mathdino gave me a reads list with like one-line reasons. I'll paraphrase it but it might be after my v/la ends. After I post it you can let me know what you want more details. I'm already noting his read on you as one thing