Mini 1991: Taking Justice Into Our Own Hands (Town Win)

[havingfitz]

what do you make of fitz having a literal clone of my reads list?

Eddie...what does the fact our reads are similar matter?

Are you so impressed with yourself that you actually think I would sheep your reads to make you suspect me less?

If so....thanks for a good laugh. Seriously...I had a good laugh and I thank you for it.

If not...then what?

As for my reads...I think they were pretty evident before I made that reads list. I had explicitly stated Lexa and GNR were suspect to me. In my Lexa ISO and its summary I mention a connection to Cedrick. So those three as suspects is par for my content.

I had stated that my reads were similar to Lexa's which infers my general feeling towards others I had yet to mention.
I subsequently ISO'd Mumble and decided he was a town lean for me which took him out of my suspect pool.
And Papa Zito has moved up the last few days from null to town as his content has improved.

Not sure there are any reads of mine that have changed to "clone" yours. lol

[havingfitz]

Don't give a shot about counterclaim you're just lying

How can you be so sure he's lying?

And it is a bit weird how you stated your role as if it was poof he's scum.

^ this

She can't be sure and she's full of shit. Look at that claim exchange...Mumble's claim looks totally genuine whereas Lexa knows she's history if she doesn't do the same. Smh...

Lexa needs more votes.

^^^^^^

[Cedrick]

That’s a stupid post and imo proves you are just conf.biased or scum.

The right play is to not lynch either and let night actions resolve.

It’s completely possible for Lexa to be town and think mumbles is lying. I have played games where somebody claimed a role that I felt didn’t belong with my role.

If anything doctor is the smarter fake claim. Nobody wants to lynch the doctor day 1. Watcher is a useless role most of the time.

Neither played how I’d expect a PR to play and both claims were done in a terrible manner. You can’t say with certainty that one is legit over the other without bias of your exsisting reads.

You believe mumbles but thought he was town
I believe Lexa but thought he was town.

Leave them both alone and let scum kill whoever is real and then we discuss after that. It’s possible both are town. I can’t remember is there a way to check completed games easily?

[Papa Zito]

but im pretty sure northside is scum

thanks 4 reading

I don't see it so I'd be interested in hearing your take.

She can't be sure and she's full of shit. Look at that claim exchange...Mumble's claim looks totally genuine whereas Lexa knows she's history if she doesn't do the same. Smh...

Lexa needs more votes.

hmm

@Lexa why did you claim there? You say you don't believe his claim which is fine but why did you claim when you did?

[Papa Zito]

My issue with both claims is they were done at L-2 with no players expressing intent to move to either wagon, forget about hammering, so the timing for both just makes no sense. It makes it hard for me to read either claim as "genuine" when they were completely unnecessary you know?

[havingfitz]

My issue with both claims is they were done at L-2 with no players expressing intent to move to either wagon

Luca had said he'd probably be voting Mumble. I.e. putting at L-1.

[Papa Zito]

I missed that I suppose. Even so without the vote cast and without someone declaring intent it's premature.

[havingfitz]

I missed that I suppose. Even so without the vote cast and without someone declaring intent it's premature.

Has more reason to be made than the LoLexa claim.

[Cedrick]

My issue with both claims is they were done at L-2 with no players expressing intent to move to either wagon, forget about hammering, so the timing for both just makes no sense. It makes it hard for me to read either claim as "genuine" when they were completely unnecessary you know?

Finally you say something I agree with

[Cedrick]

I missed that I suppose. Even so without the vote cast and without someone declaring intent it's premature.

Has more reason to be made than the LoLexa claim.

Really? You don’t think it’s possible at all for Lexa to be town and think that both can’t exsist as town?

[Lexa]

@Lexa why did you claim there? You say you don't believe his claim which is fine but why did you claim when you did?

In the moment, honestly as a fuck you to mumbles

Everything else is post-hoc justification

[Lexa]

Someone who I

know

has directly lied about things I've done or said to push pressure on me comes out at the most convenient moment for him to claim what is in theory the safest role claim in this game* to attack me again is the reddest of red flags. Especially when my own role implies that his claim should at least have a modifier attached.

*idk how 'role power' is seen but i would assume that in a game with no cops doc is pretty up there

[Cedrick]

Forgot this is a no cop game. Watcher makes more sense now.

[Mumble]

I missed that I suppose. Even so without the vote cast and without someone declaring intent it's premature.

Luca said he was going to put me at L-1 -> I was headed to bed -> seeing games/players on this site (see: Not_Mafia), I had absolutely not trust that someone would give intent and everyone would wait. You can think it's premature. I didn't.

Someone who I

know

has directly lied about things I've done or said to push pressure on me comes out at the most convenient moment for him to claim what is in theory the safest role claim in this game* to attack me again is the reddest of red flags. Especially when my own role implies that his claim should at least have a modifier attached.

*idk how 'role power' is seen but i would assume that in a game with no cops doc is pretty up there

I haven't lied about shit you twit.

[Papa Zito]

@Lexa why did you claim there? You say you don't believe his claim which is fine but why did you claim when you did?

In the moment, honestly as a fuck you to mumbles

Everything else is post-hoc justification

I'm confused how that's at all a fuck you to mumbles though? Like I'm missing how the two are related or can't coexist.

[havingfitz]

Lol...Lexa votes please.

[Cedrick]

Lol...Lexa votes please.

We aren’t lynching pr claims today.

[havingfitz]

Papa Zito...you think Cedrick is scum.

Look how hard he is defending Lexa.

I'd vote Cedrick if I thought that would fly today but I'm more confident in Lexa. Vote Lexa today and if I'm here tomorrow I'll support your Cedrick wagon.

P.edit...you don't make the rules Cedrick.

[Cedrick]

advocating a Pr lynch is scum claiming

Fitz hasn’t played with a town mindset all game either.

[Cedrick]

Fine vote me but we aren’t lynching either claim.

[Cedrick]

See fitz wants to get a Pr Lynched first. If he’s town he knows smart play is let mafia kill a Pr. He’s almost definitely scum at this point.

[Papa Zito]

Goddamn Mumble why are you so mad all the time lol.

Papa Zito...you think Cedrick is scum.

Look how hard he is defending Lexa.

I'd vote Cedrick if I thought that would fly today but I'm more confident in Lexa. Vote Lexa today and if I'm here tomorrow I'll support your Cedrick wagon.

I hear you but I'm suuuuuper wary about looking for pairings prior to flips. I think Cedrick is p scummy independent of anyone else.

I'm going to iso Lexa again and see if this claim changes anything.

[Cedrick]

I think Cedrick is p scummy independent of anyone else.

You keep saying or implying it but I haven’t done anything scummy. If anything you are the one who’s been scummy.

What is wrong with people? Is everyone seriously considering lynching a Pr claim day 1?

That’s insane. Why are we making mafia’s job easier?

It’s possible both claims are legit
It’s possible no claims are legit
It’s possible one claim is legit.

Based on what’s available to us, nobody can say with certainty who is legit or not.

I’d rather sacrifice myself to prevent stupidity happening

[Awoo]

I believe both claims and I'm not lynching either of them.

[Papa Zito]

I love this game.