Mini 1991: Taking Justice Into Our Own Hands (Town Win)

[havingfitz]

you said to me that you playing differently than me (not lynching claims) doesn't make you bad, and now it makes people bad for being alright lynching a claim? backwards asf bro :/

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[havingfitz]

He CCs and now he’s basically confirmed scum? Sorry that is suspicious.

There was a CC? Where? I missed it? lol

I was suspecting Lexa before her claim. I know you know this because you were defending her att. Her claim just adds to my suspicion of her. Is Lexa confirmed scum? Not 100%. But she's close enough for me to give her my vote.

[havingfitz]

Fitz actually said me scum reading him for pushing to lynch a Pr claim over a non Pr claim was me defending Lexa. How?

I’m against BOTH being lynched and I scum read mumble. That’s not defending anyone. It’s pointing out the bizarreness

You keep on saying you aren't defending Lexa.

If there are any town that disagree with this assessment please raise your hand lol.

Delusional.

And if you continued trying to lynch doc claim Mumble (like Lexa is if you hadn't noticed)...you wouldn't have a leg to stand on in saying people shouldn't lynch watch claim Lexa. Ergo you are defending her.

[havingfitz]

I think Cedrick is scum. I just cannot see town hard defending someone on D1 and hard as he has...even before Lexa's fakeclaim.

In that case why are you townreading Cane when he's been doing the same for Mumble?

Has Eddie defended Mumble to the same extent Cedrick has Lexa? I haven't compared. I know he town reads Mumble and has stated he thinks Mumble is town based on meta. And iirc Eddie suspects Lexa for meta. Was that right?

And I, independently of anyone else's views, am townreading Mumble. And I think his claim is genuine. So I'm not likely to suspect someone who also thinks a tr of mine is town.

[havingfitz]

once again, what are you waiting for? like what do you want to happen that will make you decide whether or not to lynch lexa or mumble tomorrow?

More information.

First - I disagree scum is going to leave both alive. It’s possible they do especially if one is actually scum but the entire point of fake claiming is self preservation and trying to get a cc.

Second - wagon analysis would give me more things to consider. Getting people to focus elsewhere and scum hunt some more will probably be more difficult for scum.

You get more information regardless of who is lynched. duh.

1st) "It's possible" So you're saying there's a chance. Imagine that.
2nd) There's no wagon analysis if Lexa is lynched?

[havingfitz]

eddie i'm not power towning for 14 day cycles lol

The way you've disappeared recently is really concerning.

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[havingfitz]

Ski weekend commences in 2 hours.

v/LA until Monday

[Cedrick]

Nice MISREP on saying I am lying.

You did lie and I pointed the lies out. So no misrep

[Cedrick]

Now fitz is going to fake a v/la.

[havingfitz]

Nice MISREP on saying I am lying.

You did lie and I pointed the lies out. So no misrep

You're terrible. Saying you are hard defendind Lexa is not a lie. It's my opinion. If you deny you had defended her this entire game you are a delusional liar yourself. Take away the term hard defended if it knots your panties. Fact remains you've defended her the entire game.

[Awoo]

he did this last weekend you noob

[havingfitz]

Now fitz is going to fake a v/la.

I don't fake v/las asshat.

[Papa Zito]

Here's where I'm at.

1.

Alexcellent

has a grand total of 10 posts this game and 0 engagement. He's also currently not voting anyone. I don't know how we're supposed to get a read on a slot that isn't playing.
2. People have praised

Awoo

's early case on Q and I thought it was terrible. I just think a lot of what he points out isn't really alignment relevant or interesting and I'm struggling to figure out how to sort him.
3.

Cedrick

remains my top scumspect but what gives me pause isn't the things he's saying but how he's saying them. He's (1) remaining engaged with the game despite fitz's tunnel when it'd be far easier to mellow out and (2) he seems utterly convicted about what he's saying even if the majority of it is batshit insane.
4. I remain completely underwhelmed by

Riggs

who was my pocket scumspect from early on but like Alexcellent I don't have very much to determine if this is a scumslot or just someone who doesn't really want to play the game. The main difference between the two is that Alex at least shows some depth in his few posts while Riggs is a giant vortex of suck.
5. I used

Havo

to kill RVS early with his goofy declarative statement and after a flurry of posts defending himself he's done basically nothing. It makes me extremely wary because this looks like classic scum UTR behavior; no need to make waves while the town is screaming at each other over Lexa/Cedrick.
6. Speaking of,

Lexa

's gonzo claim and subsequent awful explanation for it combined with a lot of bad posting and recent UTR behavior make me think the others are right about this slot and I'm sorely tempted to move here, if nothing else than to remove a player I want nowhere near lylo and restore some sanity to the game.
7.

Mumble

and

rb

both occupy similar spots in my head where they "feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel" townish but by god they aren't trying very hard are they and I have this little voice in the back of my head (among the others) whispering to me that they're doing it on purpose to avoid detection.

In other words I really honestly and truly don't know where to go here because if I could firebomb most of the playerlist rn I would happily do so

[havingfitz]

Papa Zito's in a good place.

[Cedrick]

Nice MISREP on saying I am lying.

You did lie and I pointed the lies out. So no misrep

You're terrible. Saying you are hard defendind Lexa is not a lie. It's my opinion. If you deny you had defended her this entire game you are a delusional liar yourself. Take away the term hard defended if it knots your panties. Fact remains you've defended her the entire game.

You said I hard defended her since my 3rd post of the game. That’s 10000000000% a lie.

I don’t even think i hard defended her at all but I could see how somebody would think that after I called out mumble for his BS omgus accusation but even that wasn’t a defense of Lexa and that was way past my 3rd post

[Cedrick]

he seems utterly convicted about what he's saying even if the majority of it is batshit insane.

Literally nothing I’ve said is batshit insane.

I’m playing smart. Letting mafia resolve the PR claims is smart.

[Luca Blight]

@Zito

- you gave two decent reasons why Cedrick might be town, so it begs the question why exactly does he remain your top scumspect? I don't believe you've ever properly explained this read.

[havingfitz]

Lol....did you defend Lexa in your 3rd post?

Have you defended her this entire game...since your 3rd post?

Are you cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs?

[Cedrick]

Today’s lynch should be fitz. If not him I’d go gnr or maybe Eddie.

If we lynch a Pr claim it should definitely be mumble.

Like the reason that gives Zito pause about me is exactly what mumble has done. At least Lexa under pressure attempted to do something but mumble hasn’t done anything useful all game and is now hoping the doc claim buys him extra time.

I still won’t vote mumble today unless I absolutely have to

[Cedrick]

Lol....did you defend Lexa in your 3rd post?

No I didnt

[Cedrick]

Have you defended her this entire game...since your 3rd post?

No I didn’t

[Cedrick]

I’d really appreciate it if people not refer to me as insane or crazy. Joking about mental health issues isn’t appreciated. Thank you

[Papa Zito]

he seems utterly convicted about what he's saying even if the majority of it is batshit insane.

Literally nothing I’ve said is batshit insane.

I’m playing smart. Letting mafia resolve the PR claims is smart.

See this is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. It's like you're on this damn holy crusade and only you can see the light while the rest of us blunder around slamming our shins on coffee tables like idiots. Do scum play with/fake this level of conviction? I don't know it's really weird????

Making assumptions about what the Mafia will do when you don't know who they are or the setup falls firmly outside the "playing smart" category, sorry bud. There's nothing stopping them from letting a couple of townies with super shaky claims and really weak dayplay live to cause havoc later in the game, that shit is solid gold in mylo. But the last thing I'm gonna do is get in a theory argument with a zealot so whoooooosh pretend I didn't say anything.

@Zito

- you gave two decent reasons why Cedrick might be town, so it begs the question why exactly does he remain your top scumspect? I don't believe you've ever properly explained this read.

I'm gonna guess your eyes have glazed over a bit on the fitz vs Cedrick stuff but if you actually go back and read it everything fitz posts is right and everything Cedrick posts is wrong. Like if you took the two of them and wrapped them in copper wire you could probably power your house. I haven't stepped into that convo because well frankly I don't need to, fitz is fine but ffs how can someone be that wrong and town simultaneously?

Now fitz is going to fake a v/la.

I mean what is this. Come on.


I guess what I was really trying to communicate with that post is that I have very few townreads and also while I have fairly strong feelings on possible red flips I'm still somewhat torn for reasons stated.

[havingfitz]

For example, fitz caught Lexa in a contradiction

idk if i'd say that was a contradiction by lexa

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Lol....did you defend Lexa in your 3rd post?

No I didnt

Yes you did.

Have you defended her this entire game...since your 3rd post?

No I didn’t

Yes you have.

[Cedrick]

See this is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. It's like you're on this damn holy crusade and only you can see the light while the rest of us blunder around slamming our shins on coffee tables like idiots. Do scum play with/fake this level of conviction? I don't know it's really weird????

That’s what it feels like tbh. I was taught that you never lynch a claimed Pr day one. In my years on this site I’ve seen so many more PRs lynched day one then I have scum lynched day 1.

Do we really want to gamble on potentially losing a doctor or a watcher?

If we lynch based purely on play. Hands down mumble is scummier yet more people town read mumble. Why?

He’s not enguaged. He’s not scum hunting. He attacked somebody for omgus which isn’t even scummy. He got agressive for a few posts when he didn’t really need to so it looked fake, then he vanished and hasn’t done anything since he has been under pressure. He comes back and claims Pr but still has done nothing.

I don’t see how anyone can tr that