Mini 1991: Taking Justice Into Our Own Hands (Town Win)

[havingfitz]

I’d really appreciate it if people not refer to me as insane or crazy. Joking about mental health issues isn’t appreciated. Thank you

How about thin skinned or asshat? Delusional ok? This is a game. I have empathy for mental illness and even donated $100 last year to my state's mental illness foundation. Do I think you are crazy or insane? Noooo? Just full of shit. Grow some skin.

[Cedrick]

Yes you did.

Disagreeing with you isn’t defending Lexa

Yes you have.

I disagree and I explained why.

You and mumbles used bad reasoning. If you used it on somebody else I’d still call it out.

When a player uses non AI things and imply they are AI, I’m calling it out. Just because it happened to be on Lexa doesn’t really mean I’m defending her.

Idk why you even have an obsession with defending people to begin with. Other people are defending others yet you ignore that. You are basically defending mumble and I don’t even know why.

Defending somebody isn’t scummy. You are too experienced to say it is.

[havingfitz]

yet more people town read mumble. Why?

Cause he's town?

[Cedrick]

yet more people town read mumble. Why?

Cause he's town?

Scum slip?

[havingfitz]

You are too experienced to say it is.

But not experienced enough to know scum when I see it? ok.

[Cedrick]

You can’t know he’s town. His play doesn’t suggest he is town.

[Cedrick]

You are too experienced to say it is.

But not experienced enough to know scum when I see it? ok.

Clearly not cause if you are town you think I’m scum and I’m not.

But I don’t think you are and I’m wondering if you just slipped. There is no way you can go from I think mumble is town to I know he is and nothing mumble has done has looked town.

[Cedrick]

Ok I’m done with you. Can we please lynch fitz. I honestly can’t see how he’s town at this point.

[Cedrick]

Today’s lynch should be fitz. If not him I’d go gnr or maybe Eddie.

If we lynch a Pr claim it should definitely be mumble.

Like the reason that gives Zito pause about me is exactly what mumble has done. At least Lexa under pressure attempted to do something but mumble hasn’t done anything useful all game and is now hoping the doc claim buys him extra time.

I still won’t vote mumble today unless I absolutely have to

[havingfitz]

You can’t know he’s town. His play doesn’t suggest he is town.

I don't know Mumble is town. I don't think I said I did. I suspected him before taking a closer look at him. After which he came across more town than scum. Read my ISO of him and my summary. Is is a closed book confirmation he is town? No. But I think he is town. I have suspected Lexa. I doubt they are scum together.

I'm not 100% sure of anyone's alignment in this game other than mine.

Just flying by the keys of my keyboard I'd say:
I'd call Lexa a >90% scumread.
I'd call Mumble a >70% townread.
I'd call Cedrick >70% scumread.

[Cedrick]

I also challenge the people who town read mumble to explain what he’s done that’s protown. Cause I don’t see anything in his iso.

[Cedrick]

Please stop talking to me. Go skiing or whatever

[havingfitz]

There is no way you can go from I think mumble is town to I know he is

Where do I say I know Mumble is town? Quote please.

[Papa Zito]

Do we really want to gamble on potentially losing a doctor or a watcher?

I guess I put less value into PRs than you do? Or more value in behavior? Or pixie dust?

I really don't want to get in a theory debate during a game. :/

If we lynch based purely on play. Hands down mumble is scummier yet more people town read mumble. Why?

He’s not enguaged. He’s not scum hunting. He attacked somebody for omgus which isn’t even scummy. He got agressive for a few posts when he didn’t really need to so it looked fake, then he vanished and hasn’t done anything since he has been under pressure. He comes back and claims Pr but still has done nothing.

I don’t see how anyone can tr that

He's not engaged, no, I think I mentioned that. I disagree with the rest. I can't speak for others but personally I saw what he was trying to accomplish and didn't really have an issue with how he was going about it, thus a weak townread.

[Cedrick]

yet more people town read mumble. Why?

Cause he's town?

Fitz said he didn’t think he said mumbles is town. Here is the post where he says he knows mumble is town.

It may not be a true scum slip but given how fitz is acting like he didn’t just say it is suspicious. Like he’s backtracking

[Cedrick]

I guess I put less value into PRs than you do? Or more value in behavior? Or pixie dust?

Yes I do value PRs. If they aren’t useful what’s the point?

We can just play 10 VTs vs 3 goons.

Boring

[havingfitz]

yet more people town read mumble. Why?

Cause he's town?

Scum slip?

lol...just saw this. Is this the "I KNOW he is town" you are referring to?

Yep...you got me. I scum slipped that Mumble is actually town. So does that mean he's clear in your book now?

[Papa Zito]

help

[havingfitz]

Hey Cedrick.

Squirrel!

[havingfitz]

Please stop talking to me. Go skiing or whatever

I have no objection to this post. I will take you up on this advice...and only this advice. tyvm

[Luca Blight]

We could really do with hearing less from Fitz and Cedrick and more from Lexa and Mumble themselves; both have been eerily quiet since revealing their supposed power roles.

And let's not forget Riggs - he needed more than 2 minutes for his reads list which I guess is fair enough, but 12+ hours is taking the piss.

[havingfitz]

You can’t really trust anyone’s claims so that wouldn’t really factor in to my decision.

Yes I do value PRs. If they aren’t useful what’s the point?

Disclaimer...I'm not talking to you Cedrick. This post is directed to the rest of the players.

[havingfitz]

and more from Lexa and Mumble themselves; both have been eerily quiet since revealing their supposed power roles.

Agreed

[Cedrick]

We could really do with hearing less from Fitz and Cedrick and more from Lexa and Mumble themselves; both have been eerily quiet since revealing their supposed power roles.

And let's not forget Riggs - he needed more than 2 minutes for his reads list which I guess is fair enough, but 12+ hours is taking the piss.

We can lynch him? His iso is full of him trying to twist things. Like he’s really trying to imply I’ve somehow contradicted myself. He did the same with Lexa early on (inb4 I’m defending her again)

The biggest smoking gun is he’d rather lynch a Pr instead of a non Pr. He doesn’t even consider he could be wrong. I feel like town would do that.

[Luca Blight]

To be fair Cedrick, you haven't exactly wavered on your read of Lexa.