Mini 1991: Taking Justice Into Our Own Hands (Town Win)

[Eddie Cane]

1k

[Luca Blight]

oh, you're right, hadn't fully comprehended that he was l-1.

is gnr your top scumread, luca?

So how does that affect your view of Mumble's hesitancy? Is it still townie?

Riggs is my best best to flip scum. I think it's likely one of the pr claims are scum, but I'm not entirely sure which one.

[Luca Blight]

best bet*

[northsidegal]

like rb's 906, that's something that i noticed as well.

page 38 – i agree with luca but i don't exactly townread him any more for the whole debate.

oh, you're right, hadn't fully comprehended that he was l-1.

is gnr your top scumread, luca?

So how does that affect your view of Mumble's hesitancy? Is it still townie?

Riggs is my best best to flip scum. I think it's likely one of the pr claims are scum, but I'm not entirely sure which one.

i think hesitance in general on the riggs wagon is more towny than not but it's less so than before when i thought he wasn't at l-1.

[Luca Blight]

Any particular reason you don't townread me any more for that? And what is your read on me anyway?

[northsidegal]

because it doesn't take a green role pm to be correct in a debate. i do, however, townread you for the observation (631) in the first place. if i had to describe my read on you it would be "null-town".

[Luca Blight]

You've completely skipped over the whole Lexa v Mumble role claim business. What are your thoughts on that?

[northsidegal]

oh yeah, i had read that but never actually posted about it. this is mostly just a reflection of my reads before that event but i think mumble's claim makes a lot more sense from a town perspective whereas lexa's counterclaim and the way he went about that seemed more just trying to get mumble killed and the confidence that he had that mumble was lying didn't make a lot of sense, although obviously just waiting should resolve this (granted, i did just lose an open to a fakeclaiming scum where i wanted to lynch him but everyone else said that it would resolve itself – it never did).

[Luca Blight]

Thoughts on Cedrick and Fitz would be good as well.

You had Fitz as 'confidently Town' earlier, has that view changed after that back and forth?

[Luca Blight]

oh yeah, i had read that but never actually posted about it. this is mostly just a reflection of my reads before that event but i think mumble's claim makes a lot more sense from a town perspective whereas lexa's counterclaim and the way he went about that seemed more just trying to get mumble killed and the confidence that he had that mumble was lying didn't make a lot of sense, although obviously just waiting should resolve this (granted, i did just lose an open to a fakeclaiming scum where i wanted to lynch him but everyone else said that it would resolve itself – it never did).

So what makes you think the situation will resolve itself, given you just had a game where this didn't happen?

Your tone reads really indifferent here, like '

meh, I'll just go along with the popular opinion

'.

[northsidegal]

Thoughts on Cedrick and Fitz would be good as well.

You had Fitz as 'confidently Town' earlier, has that view changed after that back and forth?

don't really have anything strong pinging me one way or the other on cedrick. i'm sure if i were to reread the thread more closely trying to read him specifically i could come up with something but as i'm responding to this now i just don't have a lot to say.

as for fitz, i was about to restate my townread on him but then i clicked on his iso to look for that interaction and found this:

Spoiler:

If that is true, what are your current thoughts as of this post wrt Lexa? How confident you are in your push, how confident you are in their flip.

I am extremely confident Lexa is scum.

I'm not big on D1 histrionics but if you look at games where I strongly believe someone is scum...my play is similar. I.e. aggressive and annoying as fcuk.

Self meta alert!!! Not my scumplay style at all.

Cedrick meanwhile in his unabashed defense of Lexa has resorted personal attacks and dismissiveness. Si he can be Lexa's partner.

so i'm pretty much rescinding what i said before about the lack of extreme confidence being more likely town.

oh yeah, i had read that but never actually posted about it. this is mostly just a reflection of my reads before that event but i think mumble's claim makes a lot more sense from a town perspective whereas lexa's counterclaim and the way he went about that seemed more just trying to get mumble killed and the confidence that he had that mumble was lying didn't make a lot of sense, although obviously just waiting should resolve this (granted, i did just lose an open to a fakeclaiming scum where i wanted to lynch him but everyone else said that it would resolve itself – it never did).

So what makes you think the situation will resolve itself, given you just had a game where this didn't happen?

Your tone reads really indifferent here, like '

meh, I'll just go along with the popular opinion

'.

the contexts are completely different. a watcher claim both demands more immediate attention from scum if town, has results that are harder to fake than the scum's fakeclaimed role in that other game, and i expect this game for there to be some other role to figure out if lexa is lying (not so in the open game).

i have nothing to say to the second line – i'm going along with the majority opinion because i think it's the correct course of action.

[Eddie Cane]

are you caught up side?

[northsidegal]

like one or two pages behind (middle of 39)

maybe going to stop reading for now, will likely go to sleep soon and i'm probably no longer really processing what i'm reading.

[Eddie Cane]

ping me when you are please

gn, going to bed too

[Cedrick]

Riggs is my best best to flip scum

Based on what?

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: Guy_Named_Riggs

He's done very little, to the point it feels like he's just trying to coast through the day unnoticed. I don't like the appeasement of 30, nor do I like the vagueness of his Mumble vote or his shading of certain players in 257. In 328 He says he's '

going through things now

', yet all he subsequently manages is a passive question at Zito as to why he suspects Cedrick over others. Cedrick was also one of the ones Riggs shaded earlier, so presumably he should have been able to relate somewhat to Zito's scumread on Cedrick.

This was the basis behind my initial scumread, but most damning has been his reaction to Awoo's questioning - not only failing to give any 'live' thoughts on anyone, but seemingly flaking from the game as a result.

I feel town in this situation would at least throw out some thoughts, no matter how basic they might be.

[Awoo]

Orange you glad I moved my vote and helped to play the game? For real, the only purpose of a vote like that is like "look at me im town", thing is, everybody already understands that so there's no point voting there anymore.

[Eddie Cane]

ced?

[Cedrick]

VOTE: Guy_Named_Riggs

He's done very little, to the point it feels like he's just trying to coast through the day unnoticed. I don't like the appeasement of 30, nor do I like the vagueness of his Mumble vote or his shading of certain players in 257. In 328 He says he's '

going through things now

', yet all he subsequently manages is a passive question at Zito as to why he suspects Cedrick over others. Cedrick was also one of the ones Riggs shaded earlier, so presumably he should have been able to relate somewhat to Zito's scumread on Cedrick.

This was the basis behind my initial scumread, but most damning has been his reaction to Awoo's questioning - not only failing to give any 'live' thoughts on anyone, but seemingly flaking from the game as a result.

I feel town in this situation would at least throw out some thoughts, no matter how basic they might be.

Ok I sort of understand why you are scum reading him but I’ve seen townies lurk. I’m fine lynching him though since everyone seems to disagree with my reads

[Cedrick]

ced?

Hi

[Eddie Cane]

"And, while I'm here, if I end up sorting you as town will you work with me on your Mumble read? It is really obstructing any desire I have to want to work with you."

[Cedrick]

I still think you are scum. So no

[Eddie Cane]

you make life difficult my man

[Cedrick]

If I’m wrong about you, you are making this game difficult also

[Eddie Cane]

what am I being difficult about?