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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:10 am

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In post 329, Hopkirk wrote:13th
In post 200, Kop wrote:@mod V/LA for today, will be on tomorrow.
16th
In post 284, Nero Cain wrote:oh, he's v/la. EH.
vote:Yurkin
Just noticed this. Did you think Kop was still V/LA, and does it affect anything that he wasn't V/LA at that point?
I know you voted Kurkin instead since you thought Kop was V/LA.

More thoughts on this to follow post response.
i had apparently missed this.

Yea, I unvoted Kop b/c I thought he was still v/la but you already knew that so idk what you are asking.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:34 am

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Anything new?

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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:38 am

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Sorry, I haven’t been here. I’ve been insanely busy. I haven’t quite caught up yet. I will continue to be insanely busy today. I might have some. Time today but if not definitely tomorrow to catch up.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:25 am

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In post 334, Kop wrote:
@chickadee
In post 76, Chickadee wrote:
In post 75, brassherald wrote:VOTE: TFL

We haven't even heard from everyone yet. I have a bad feeling about someone asking for scum leans already.
That’s bad reasoning.

TFL is null for me so far, but I think all the votes on him are bad votes.

Since when can’t we scum hunt until everyone checks in?
I don't disagree with what you said to Brass, however the point that I do disagree with is, the fact that you have specifically said there were bad votes on TFL wagon. What I would be interested in, is what you see as the bad votes, and who you actually believe is scum being opportunistic. What you have done personally, is take a stance towards the whole TFL wagon, but not actually take it apart. The feeling I get, is that there is a chance that you are scum, see a wagon that isn't getting much resistance for it taking off, and your fence sitting trying to defend it subtly whilst not actually contributing to it by showing who the bad votes are. It reeks of if the wagon did take off and TFL is lynched, you'd take the stance 'I did say it was a bad wagon, there was bad votes on blah blah blah'.

In post 87, Chickadee wrote:I feel like I kind of already covered the TFL thing when addressing Brass. Didn't feel the need to bring it up again.
Yes, why do you not feel the need for it to be brought up again? I think I'd actually like to see your stance on the bad votes, you can't just say it's a bad wagon but not actually engage with any of those on the wagon, or even try to show us the bad votes then we can actually move forward on finding a ground that we can work from and find scum.
In post 175, Chickadee wrote:
In post 174, Hopkirk wrote:@Chickadee: Expanding on the above, the votes on TFL were (Nero, TPG, TNE, Brass, Hop). You seemed ok with TPG’s vote, later said mine was fine, and haven’t commented on Nero/TNE or followed up on them afterwards. It feels like you’re saying the entire wagon is bad, but only following up on Brass- while not looking at (or in two cases, not even mentioning) the rest of the wagon.

Idc personally I find your playstyle exhausting. I’d be fine with being lynched just to not answer your questions because I know you’re not gonna leave me alone.
This isn't a defence. I'm sorry, it's not a defence. This is coming off weird. I just feel, I don't know, as if you are trying to avoid the issue in case you say something that could incriminate yourself, I just don't know. I don't see a town mentality in this sort of defence.
Not trying to fence sit over here. I just didn't see the merit in the the wagon, and jumped onto the last vote to chime in, as it was by far the worst.

And I wholly accept that wasn't a defense. It wasn't meant to be. It was just honesty.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:59 am

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VC 1.7
yurkin (5)- Assemblerotws, Chickadee, havingfitz, Almost50, Dunnstral
Kop (2)- The Powerpuff Girls, Nero Cain
Kokichi Oma (2)- Hopkirk, Kop
Assemblerotws (1)- Momrangal
Chickadee (1)- Kokichi Oma

Not voting (2)- yurkin, TheFuzzylogic99

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

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Mod notes: Prodding Assemblerotws again... havingfitz might be about to win a bet. Funny typos made in the making of this VC: Almost50 -> Almost60, Kop -> Kpop
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:02 am

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In post 348, Hopkirk wrote:Kokichi is a good vote still. Still ignoring direct invitations to engage on multiple points despite allegedly wanting to engage more.
This is a lie
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:03 am

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Chick is scum but since no one wants that VOTE: kop
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:22 am

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TNE and Yurkin are pretty much the same as far how scummy they are. That third bracket is just a null-scum bracket. Neither is actually scummier than the other in my eyes.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:26 am

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Also, i feel like holding the hammer now that I see the VC.

the only issue I have is that its led by assemble
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:29 am

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In post 355, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 348, Hopkirk wrote:Kokichi is a good vote still. Still ignoring direct invitations to engage on multiple points despite allegedly wanting to engage more.
This is a lie
In post 337, Kokichi Oma wrote:Vote chick then. I may be bussing!
In post 327, Hopkirk wrote:this quote is from me in response to 258 from Kokichi, as also quoted below:
I tried to engage you a bit when I mentioned my initial dislike on you. Your engagement back seemed to focus on my light scumread of you rather than anything else, and you didn't really follow up at all there.

Not voting you yet since I don't like to unvote people who don't answer questions. Although that slot's subbed out I noticed- so that'll probably change unless the replacement is scummy too.
In post 258, Kokichi Oma wrote:Hop, you have me at the bottom, but you haven't even tried to engage me much or even vote me. Why?
In post 315, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 311, Hopkirk wrote:Lets interact. There's three people I could vote here, and the other two are inactive enough that I won't get value voting to interact.
Do you feel that reason is also one a town wouldn't give?
Better question, how about you tell me why you vote me before you try to sort and interact with me? Especially when I was the one who said we should interact first.
I responded to the point where you claimed that I 'wasn't interesting in engaging' with you. Either you missed it, or disagreed but didn't want to talk about it. I don't like that.

I invited you to engage with me in regard to your read on Chick. You didn't take the implicit offer to talk about it. This extends the feeling that you don't want Chick actually lynched/pushed hard since you should be looking for opportunities to explain/debate the read on her if you believe in it.

You aren't making an effort to interact with me in 311. Even if you don't think I'm trying to engage with you, there's no reason you can't try and engage with me. But you're focusing entirely on my read on you rather than mentioning anything about my posts, my thoughts, or the areas where I disagree with you.

Also as a funny side point, you said that town don't justify their votes- but you're complaining that I haven't given enough justification for a vote on you.
Note how 337, the only post Kokichi had made when I made 348, ignores 327 completely. You're claiming I'm not trying to engage with you while also intentionally ignoring my posts that reference you. This isn't the first time either- that's what 327 was talking about.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 350, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 329, Hopkirk wrote:13th
In post 200, Kop wrote:@mod V/LA for today, will be on tomorrow.
16th
In post 284, Nero Cain wrote:oh, he's v/la. EH.
vote:Yurkin
Just noticed this. Did you think Kop was still V/LA, and does it affect anything that he wasn't V/LA at that point?
I know you voted Kurkin instead since you thought Kop was V/LA.

More thoughts on this to follow post response.
i had apparently missed this.

Yea, I unvoted Kop b/c I thought he was still v/la but you already knew that so idk what you are asking.
As of my question, you had not revoted Kop.
I wanted to know why.
You revoted Kop which is in line with what I hypothesised for town you to do then.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:39 am

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Yurkin and Fitz are due for prods.

@Almost50: Why Yurkin over Brass/Assemble?
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:40 am

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In post 356, Kokichi Oma wrote:Chick is scum but since no one wants that VOTE: kop
Explain the damn Chick read then like I asked.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:51 am

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In post 361, Hopkirk wrote:@Almost50: Why Yurkin over Brass/Assemble?
Assemble replaced in and brass hasn't posted in 6 days so probably will be replaced.

Yurkin has 4 posts. He posts roughly once every 48 hours and says he "will" do stuff but never does, plus he asked to voted if he doesn't deliver.

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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:55 am

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Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:48 pm
In post 66, yurkin wrote:sup

sorta forgot about the game. did I missed something interesting? XD
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:11 am
In post 166, yurkin wrote:I'm totaly gonna catch up tonight!
in a 10hours or so after work
>.>' vote me if I don't!!
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:01 pm
In post 234, yurkin wrote:Started reading XD kinda dissapointed Hoprik is using so much meta, and with quite specific details to it.
Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:25 pm
In post 297, yurkin wrote:I'm here I'm here
Got prodded.
P.S. Timestamps are adjusted to GMT+2, so may appear different to you but the same time gaps between them.

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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:58 am

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In post 363, Almost50 wrote:
In post 361, Hopkirk wrote:@Almost50: Why Yurkin over Brass/Assemble?
Assemble replaced in and brass hasn't posted in 6 days so probably will be replaced.

Yurkin has 4 posts. He posts roughly once every 48 hours and says he "will" do stuff but never does, plus he asked to voted if he doesn't deliver.
Who are you saying Assemble replaced?
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:01 am

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@Almost50: What's your read on Kokichi?
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:04 am

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@Kop+Mom- what do you think of each other and why?
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:06 am

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ROTFL... I didn't realize Assenmble replaced brass! I opened the activity overview and looked for the least posters, and these were Cheeky (ego post. Part of the hydra); Assemble (replaced in) and yurkin (4 posts ISO), so I ISO'd yurkin and voted him. :lol:

Koki is one player I won't be trying to read on D1. No matter how I try he is always a hard read for me, so I'm probably going to rely on night action to sort him for me.

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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:14 am

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My problem here is that Assemble/Kokichi look like your most likely partners. It's a little worrying you aren't good at reading one, and voted Yurkin instead of the other (for doing the same thing).
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:28 am

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My other problem is that these are the only games with you/Kokichi I can find.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=73937
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I don't really get how she's 'always a hard read for me' from them. Am I missing more, or have you only got two games with her?
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:39 am

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We were in a neighborhood and he kept waffling his read on me. We were both town and I TR him them. So I believe him.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:40 am

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In post 362, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 356, Kokichi Oma wrote:Chick is scum but since no one wants that VOTE: kop
Explain the damn Chick read then like I asked.
I did. I don't like her post, it sounds fake. Why explain you want more out of a slot instead of just voting. That's 100% theatre posturing
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:42 am

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In post 369, Hopkirk wrote:My problem here is that Assemble/Kokichi look like your most likely partners. It's a little worrying you aren't good at reading one, and voted Yurkin instead of the other (for doing the same thing).
I see!

Well, you can make a case on whichever if them you want to lynch and we can all evaluate it.

Also, how do you get Assemble/Koki to be my "most likely partners"?
And who do you think he 4th would be?
How do you explain two scums replacing out so early?
Does the fact I slipped no knowing Assemble replaced brass affect your reads at all, or do you think I faked ignorance?

P-edit: I also played him in a [ulr=viewtopic.php?f=23&t=73987]3rd game[/url] (actually was the 1st because I was a replacement in Magical Girls), and I never actually managed to peg him correctly on D1.

That said, you also seem to not be able to read him at all. You even keep referring to him as a she, while I -at least- remember his declared pronoun.

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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:43 am

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3rd game

Fixed. :facepalm:

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